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post #166 of 243
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Originally Posted by whoelse View Post

MaxiMall have HP100 -> http://www.maximall.sg/Product/67/SoundMagic-HP100-Professional-Portable-Headphones

 

Actually even Koss is hard to find in Singapore too!

Yeah but I can't find it without purchasing it online as I don't live in Singapore... I'm from Brunei! South-East of Singapore right above Borneo Island! Even thought I go Singapore regularly, but hey! I only go Singapore during daytime at night, I am going back to Johore XD 

 

I thought you can find Koss at Jaben Sg? The worse of all is, no Hifiman! 

post #167 of 243
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I'd be really keen on a 7520 vs. CD900st comparison too, I have the CD900st and they're amazing headphones. Their tonal quality is some of the best i've heard regardless of the price and going from memory is an improvemnt from the Z1000 i had some time ago. Unlike some previous poster said, I find them to be very versatile sounding, as a good monitor should be. But the Z1000 was more dynamic iiirc.

 

I'd just like to see more impressions of the CD900STs in general. Because they're so uncommon here on head-fi, I think people think I'm a lunatic when I speak so highly of them. tongue.gif

post #168 of 243
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Originally Posted by BillsonChang007 View Post

Yeah but I can't find it without purchasing it online as I don't live in Singapore... I'm from Brunei! South-East of Singapore right above Borneo Island! Even thought I go Singapore regularly, but hey! I only go Singapore during daytime at night, I am going back to Johore XD 

 

I thought you can find Koss at Jaben Sg? The worse of all is, no Hifiman! 

I know you from Brunei lah brother and you just went to Malaysia? or about to go? (Singlish)

I am not sure, I only went Jaben once to get Grado items once. I know it is a good place but when I was there it was packed with people :-)

Treoo.sg does have Hifiman, but I guess we need to audit them. Probably can be arrange since they are expensive.

post #169 of 243
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Originally Posted by Amarphael View Post

I'd be really keen on a 7520 vs. CD900st comparison too, I have the CD900st and they're amazing headphones. Their tonal quality is some of the best i've heard regardless of the price and going from memory is an improvemnt from the Z1000 i had some time ago. Unlike some previous poster said, I find them to be very versatile sounding, as a good monitor should be. But the Z1000 was more dynamic iiirc.
I don't deny that they are amazing headphones. That should be obvious to anyone that has ever listened to them. However, I don't think they are good headphones for enjoying music (for me). While I sorta like the studio monitor sound, I think the CD900ST is *too* studio monitor-y. The CD900ST is purpose built for dissecting sound, and excel at it far beyond what other closed headphones I have ever heard, but I want to sit back and enjoy my music, and I prefer the V6/7506 for that.

As for me questioning why it was on and the 7520 was off, I have never heard the 7520, but I guessed that the 7520 was better was because:
-It's by the same company (okay, technically its Sony Music Entertainment/Sony Electronics, but still Sony)
-It's newer and more expensive
-It's designed to cater toward the same users
-The CD900ST is still in production
post #170 of 243

I certainly don't hear the CD900st as clinical as you imply, To me they never sound blantly analytical or unforgiving. The treble is rather smooth and the mids are very clear but just *a tad* on the side of full and sweet as oppsed to lean and dry, That would a Beyer DT770/250 in my book. It's has to be the best balance of neutral/natural i've heard in a pair of closed-back cans to date.

post #171 of 243
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No one listen to 7509HD at all to comment?
post #172 of 243
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No one listen to 7509HD at all to comment?

Isn't 7509HD the same thing as the V900HD? Weren't they discontinued quite awhile ago too?
post #173 of 243
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I have no idea, I always thought 7509HD were the highest end of the V6 family. Never listen to any of these before.
post #174 of 243
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I have no idea, I always thought 7509HD were the highest end of the V6 family. Never listen to any of these before.

I don't know *a lot* about the Sony headphone lineup, but my understanding is roughly:

MDR-V6 ~ MDR-7506
MDR-V900 ~ MDR-7509
MDR-V900HD ~ MDR-7509HD
MDR-ZX700 ~ MDR-7510
MDR-Z1000 ~ MDR-7520

I'm not saying they're dead equal; my understanding is there are voicing and functional changes made between the Pro and consumer versions of each of these.

And that the V6 are essentially unrelated to anything but the 7506; despite being cosmetically similar to the CD900ST, and marketed alongside the V600 and V900 as well as the 7506 being marketed alongside the 7509 (and later 7510 and 7520)).

I know the V900/V900HD were mentioned years and years ago, but I thought they were basically done and buried from Sony's perspective; and had been for a while (replaced by the ZX700).

This could all be entirely wrong of course...redface.gif
post #175 of 243
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I have heard that the high of V6 and Beyerdynamic are very sharp. Are they bright like the Grado? I only own Grado and Sennheiser so I can only take Grado as reference point.
post #176 of 243
I wouldn't call it the highest end of the V6 family. Highest end of the V6 family is either the V7 (highest end of the original MDR-Vx cans), or the CD900ST (highest end with V6 drivers, and highest end with the V6 styling).

The 7509HD was the highest end of the 75xx family until it got replaced by the 7520 (I think). The 7509HD shares more in common with the V900 and Vx00 family than the V6.
post #177 of 243

Paradox and maddogs should be out of the list, they are modded and everything else on the list is in its stock form.

 

 

 

V7 is nowhere as good as the cd900st,  i compared it once to a meet about a year ago. V7 is definitely close to V6.

 

there is also a "better" cd900st, the cd999. when cd900st pads were used, it basically is a cd900st with treble extension. it is semi-open though, and is out of production.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Kukuk View Post

 

I'd just like to see more impressions of the CD900STs in general. Because they're so uncommon here on head-fi, I think people think I'm a lunatic when I speak so highly of them. tongue.gif

 

the cd900st is a "hit-or-miss" headphone anyway, so 50% of the impressions will be not good :P


Edited by Dyaems - 4/2/13 at 9:01pm
post #178 of 243
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Originally Posted by whoelse View Post

I have heard that the high of V6 and Beyerdynamic are very sharp. Are they bright like the Grado? I only own Grado and Sennheiser so I can only take Grado as reference point.

Based on my experience with Beyers (I haven't heard the V6): no. Nothing will ever render treble quite like a Grado either. smily_headphones1.gif

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Originally Posted by ThinkAwesome View Post

I wouldn't call it the highest end of the V6 family. Highest end of the V6 family is either the V7 (highest end of the original MDR-Vx cans), or the CD900ST (highest end with V6 drivers, and highest end with the V6 styling).

The 7509HD was the highest end of the 75xx family until it got replaced by the 7520 (I think). The 7509HD shares more in common with the V900 and Vx00 family than the V6.

Can you actually confirm that the CD900ST have V6 drivers in them? I remember that went around a few years ago and was dismissed. E.g. this thread: http://www.head-fi.org/t/232657/sony-mdr-7506-and-mdr-cd900st
Or this one:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/70995/sony-mdr-cd900st-anybody-evaluated-these
Or this one:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/345169/sony-mdr-7509-or-mdr-cd900st-help

etc


My understanding is that the CD900ST, if they're related to any V series headphone, are related to the MDR-V7 (which Dyaems seems to disagree with). The 7509HD are, again afaik, the pro version of the V900HD (just like V6/7506).
post #179 of 243
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Originally Posted by obobskivich View Post

Can you actually confirm that the CD900ST have V6 drivers in them? I remember that went around a few years ago and was dismissed.
I suspect the CD900ST shares the same drivers as the V6 because both the V6 and CD900ST have 40mm PET drivers with identical specs.

This is from the official spec sheets.
http://www.smci.jp/headphones/cd900st/index.html
http://store.sony.com/p/DJ-headphones/en/p/MDRV6#specifications
post #180 of 243
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Originally Posted by ThinkAwesome View Post

I suspect the CD900ST shares the same drivers as the V6 because both the V6 and CD900ST have 40mm PET drivers with identical specs.

This is from the official spec sheets.
http://www.smci.jp/headphones/cd900st/index.html
http://store.sony.com/p/DJ-headphones/en/p/MDRV6#specifications

That's a *huuuuge* stretch to be honest. Do you have actual P/Ns or a tear-down to confirm this?
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