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post #1111 of 3024

Man I really wish you could shuffle within a directory instead of just within an album or "all Songs"

 

anyone know of a way?

 

Theres quite a few very simple, obvious things that would really make the UI a million times better. I'm suprised they get this far without adressing what is standard on almost any portable audio player.

 

Is there a place where you can suggest firmware additions and alterations (just email hifiman?)

post #1112 of 3024
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Originally Posted by Ollie6052 View Post

Man I really wish you could shuffle within a directory instead of just within an album or "all Songs"

anyone know of a way?

Theres quite a few very simple, obvious things that would really make the UI a million times better. I'm suprised they get this far without adressing what is standard on almost any portable audio player.

Is there a place where you can suggest firmware additions and alterations (just email hifiman?)

Probably just email them. That feature is also something I recalled seeing people in china requested. DSD playback was another example they decided to add after users requested for it. Same for the battery cradle.
post #1113 of 3024

Has anyone had a listen to the Sennheiser IE 800 through the HM901 and/or compared them with the RE600?

 

Still wishing the RE-600 had a little more Bass.

post #1114 of 3024
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Originally Posted by Ollie6052 View Post

Has anyone had a listen to the Sennheiser IE 800 through the HM901 and/or compared them with the RE600?

 

Still wishing the RE-600 had a little more Bass.

 

IE800 definitely have loads more bass, and also more spicy treble.  It is overall more v-shape and imho less lifelike instrument timbre.   I feel compared to the 901, maybe a less analytical source that is a tad less transparent can work well with IE800 and reduces some of its rough edges and harshness if you really like the IE800.

post #1115 of 3024

Two weeks ago I received my HM 901 from Audioadvisor. It came with the standard amp. I ordered the balanced amp from Hifiman about a week ago. Since then I have been doing a comparison between the standard (stock) amp and the balanced amp.

 

I have also been switching back and forth between the hi –res and the classic switch. The headphones I'm using are the Shure 1840, Grado 500, Sennheiser HD600 and my Sennheiser HD650.

 

I owned and sold my HM801 so I know the difference in performance between the two. I also owned the HM601 but will not use this to compare either since it is not in the same league.

Simply put the HM901 is better then the HM801. I thought the HM801 would be hard to beat. I also thought the HM901 with the sabre dacs might sound drier and not as analog as the HM801. It does not.

My  4 pin balanced 3.5 mini cable is from Charleston Cable company. Manufactured here in the good old USA. They are beautifully made, and the sound quality is exceptional. I can honestly say this having used various major brand cables on my HD600 and HD650. That said I highly recommend the Charleston/Audience cable. He is a great guy to deal with and very customer service oriented. Not to mention the quality of this cable. The cable he uses is designed and manufactured by Audience. This is simply my opinion. I have nothing to do with this company. Do a search for additional information.

My experience in music professionally has been a long one. I have been fortunate enough to have owned and tried many hi-end stereo products.So sound quality is very important to me.

 

I won’t go in to a long detailed description in terms of the sound quality the HM901 produces. There will be plenty of professional reviews coming out soon.

Having said that I will say Fang did one hell of a job designing this. Is the body brushed aluminum. No it is not. It’s plastic. Does it feel like a $1000.00 portable player. In a way, yes it does. Does it look good to the eye. Well beauty is in the eye of the beholder. To me it looks fine. The plastic is a high grade plastic. The seams are perfect. Everything looks like they took their time to assemble it. Pride maybe. Whatever it is it just works. It feels right in the hand. It is easy and friendly to use. Again,to me I really like the way it looks.

 

How does music sound on this amazing digital player. To my trained ears it sounds perfect. My  stereo home system is top of the line. I now spend 90% of my music listening with the HM901 and my Sennheiser HD650 instead. I do prefer the 24 bit music though. Just a bit more quality, detail, etc then 16 bit. Not a lot but enough. To me it’s definitely noticeable. I am a person who is very very picky about the sound quality of the music I listen to. Sometimes maybe to picky. Especially how it’s produced through the equipment playing it.

 

I do highly recommend the balanced amp over the (mini amp) and definitely over the standard amp. There is a quite a noticeable difference between the standard and the balanced amp.

 

I haven’t had any trouble with  any particular manufactures memory cards although I prefer sandisc. The latest firmware works fine. Did not change the sound signature or cause any problems. Easy to install. Twice it skipped ahead on one of the songs I was listening to. That was before the firmware. It never happened again afterwards. I guess we willl see what happens down the road.

 

I Love everything about the HM901. To me it was worth every penny. To hear music produced with this high quality coming from such a small device is amazing. I am listening to sound quality that I enjoy more then my home stereo system lately. That's saying a lot. All this coming from a portable player. I could not ask for more. Fang did a super job in the design, build and quality of the HM901.  


Edited by glockhit - 8/26/13 at 1:31pm
post #1116 of 3024
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Originally Posted by glockhit View Post

Two weeks ago I received my HM 901 from Audioadvisor. It came with the standard amp. I ordered the balanced amp from Hifiman about a week ago. Since then I have been doing a comparison between the standard (stock) amp and the balanced amp.

 

I have also been switching back and forth between the hi –res and the classic switch. The headphones I'm using are the Shure 1840, Grado 500, Sennheiser HD600 and my Sennheiser HD650.

 

I owned and sold my HM801 so I know the difference in performance between the two. I also owned the HM601 but will not use this to compare either since it is not in the same league.

Simply put the HM901 is better then the HM801. I thought the HM801 would be hard to beat. I also thought the HM901 with the sabre dacs might sound drier and not as analog as the HM801. It does not.

My  4 pin balanced 3.5 mini cable is from Charleston Cable company. Manufactured here in the good old USA. They are beautifully made, and the sound quality is exceptional. I can honestly say this having used various major brand cables on my HD600 and HD650. That said I highly recommend the Charleston/Audience cable. He is a great guy to deal with and very customer service oriented. Not to mention the quality of this cable. The cable he uses is designed and manufactured by Audience. This is simply my opinion. I have nothing to do with this company. Do a search for additional information.

My experience in music professionally has been a long one. I have been fortunate enough to have owned and tried many hi-end stereo products.So sound quality is very important to me.

 

I won’t go in to a long detailed description in terms of the sound quality the HM901 produces. There will be plenty of professional reviews coming out soon.

Having said that I will say Fang did one hell of a job designing this. Is the body brushed aluminum. No it is not. It’s plastic. Does it feel like a $1000.00 portable player. In a way, yes it does. Does it look good to the eye. Well beauty is in the eye of the beholder. To me it looks fine. The plastic is a high grade plastic. The seams are perfect. Everything looks like they took their time to assemble it. Pride maybe. Whatever it is it just works. It feels right in the hand. It is easy and friendly to use. Again,to me I really like the way it looks.

 

How does music sound on this amazing digital player. To my trained ears it sounds perfect. My  stereo home system is top of the line. I now spend 90% of my music listening with the HM901 and my Sennheiser HD650 instead. I do prefer the 24 bit music though. Just a bit more quality, detail, etc then 16 bit. Not a lot but enough. To me it’s definitely noticeable. I am a person who is very very picky about the sound quality of the music I listen to. Sometimes maybe to picky. Especially how it’s produced through the equipment playing it.

 

I do highly recommend the balanced amp over the (mini amp) and definitely over the standard amp. There is a quite a noticeable difference between the standard and the balanced amp.

 

I haven’t had any trouble with  any particular manufactures memory cards although I prefer sandisc. The latest firmware works fine. Did not change the sound signature or cause any problems. Easy to install. Twice it skipped ahead on one of the songs I was listening to. That was before the firmware. It never happened again afterwards. I guess we willl see what happens down the road.

 

I Love everything about the HM901. To me it was worth every penny. To hear music produced with this high quality coming from such a small device is amazing. I am listening to sound quality that I enjoy more then my home stereo system lately. That's saying a lot. All this coming from a portable player. I could not ask for more. Fang did a super job in the design, build and quality of the HM901.  

 



I love the HM901 through the Sennheiser HD650 too, so far the best combination I have found.

 

So in what ways does the balanced amp sound better than the standard? How is it different?

 

Cheers

post #1117 of 3024

More power. I was listening to the volume at 5.5-8 with the standard amp.

With the balanced amp I’m generally at 3.5- 4.5

Much better transparency

Better clarity and detail

Clearer soundstage focus and spatial depth

Better treble air and extension

Stronger and more defined bass impact especially mid bass

I really enjoy the Sennheiser HD 650 with Charleston TRRS cable.This is an excellent match for the HM 901 with the balanced amp.

The balanced amp definitely sounds better then the standard amp when using a standard 3.5 TRS cable in normal mode.

The HM-901 does get warmer/hot with the balanced amp.  No warmer then the HM-801 was without a balanced amp. The nature of the beast I guess. Definitely not a deal breaker though. I never had a problem with the HM 801 getting to hot and damaging anything internally. 

 

Cheers


Edited by glockhit - 8/27/13 at 8:11am
post #1118 of 3024
Volume is the least important thing when assessing the driving power of an amp... As a he6 owner myself, this is obvious. Lol. My portaphile 627 drives the he6 at high gain mode at 11 o'clock, but there is clipping, the sound is congested, and all around it basically sounds like a throwaway earbud.
post #1119 of 3024
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Originally Posted by jelt2359 View Post

Volume is the least important thing when assessing the driving power of an amp... As a he6 owner myself, this is obvious. Lol. My portaphile 627 drives the he6 at high gain mode at 11 o'clock, but there is clipping, the sound is congested, and all around it basically sounds like a throwaway earbud.

Yup volume is not very important unless it is still too soft when maxed or too loud at very low levels. But I do mostly agree with glockhit's other points:
Quote:
Much better transparency
Better clarity and detail
Clearer soundstage focus and spatial depth
Better treble air and extension
Stronger and more defined bass impact especially mid bass
post #1120 of 3024

I just ordered a refurbished HM-801 with 30-day return and a two-year warranty from HiFiMan Direct.

 

For those who have actually spent some time listening to the Line Out of both the HM-801 -- and -- the HM-901, please tell me what you think I'll be missing in terms of sound quality through the Line Out.

 

I'm not at all interested in the UI differences, the headphone amps, battery life, bang for the buck or any other bells and whistles that distinguish the 901 from the 801.  I'm only interested in a comparison of Line Out sound quality to an external amp, for 96/24 and 44.1/16 WAV and FLAC files.

 

I've been reading this thread for a while, but it's hard to tell when people are talking about headphone out vs. line out in many posts, so I'm seeking a summary from anyone who feels qualified and willing to "talk some sense into me" if you have a mind to do so.   All opinions are valuable. 

 

biggrin.gif

 

Thanks!  

 

Mike

post #1121 of 3024
Quote:
Originally Posted by zilch0md View Post

I just ordered a refurbished HM-801 with 30-day return and a two-year warranty from HiFiMan Direct.

 

For those who have actually spent some time listening to the Line Out of both the HM-801 -- and -- the HM-901, please tell me what you think I'll be missing in terms of sound quality through the Line Out.

 

I'm not at all interested in the UI differences, the headphone amps, battery life, bang for the buck or any other bells and whistles that distinguish the 901 from the 801.  I'm only interested in a comparison of Line Out sound quality to an external amp, for 96/24 and 44.1/16 WAV and FLAC files.

 

I've been reading this thread for a while, but it's hard to tell when people are talking about headphone out vs. line out in many posts, so I'm seeking a summary from anyone who feels qualified and willing to "talk some sense into me" if you have a mind to do so.   All opinions are valuable. 

 

biggrin.gif

 

Thanks!  

 

Mike

 

I am extremely interested in this as well, considering in the review of the EF-6, a very prominent member of head-fi regarded the HM-801 as one of the best dacs he ever had the pleasure of listening to under like $5k.  Those are some big words. I wouldn't mind your impressions of the dac section of the 801 if you want to post them here or feel free to send me a PM.

post #1122 of 3024
I have been thinking of doing this- I can do 801 vs 901 -> coaxial -> speaker amp to he6, and as soon as my cable arrives I will also do 801 vs 901 -> mini to mini -> portaphile 627 to my current favs, shure se846

Maybe this weekend smily_headphones1.gif
post #1123 of 3024
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Originally Posted by Llloyd View Post

 

I am extremely interested in this as well, considering in the review of the EF-6, a very prominent member of head-fi regarded the HM-801 as one of the best dacs he ever had the pleasure of listening to under like $5k.  Those are some big words. I wouldn't mind your impressions of the dac section of the 801 if you want to post them here or feel free to send me a PM.

 

Will do!  smile.gif

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by jelt2359 View Post

I have been thinking of doing this- I can do 801 vs 901 -> coaxial -> speaker amp to he6, and as soon as my cable arrives I will also do 801 vs 901 -> mini to mini -> portaphile 627 to my current favs, shure se846

Maybe this weekend smily_headphones1.gif

 

That would be wonderful!  Thank you!

 

Mike

post #1124 of 3024
I received my HM901 around 10 days ago. It's enough to say I'm very pleased with the sound quality, no complains in this department. But thru this 10 days I've encountered several problems with the playback. Let's make it clear, I'm gonna talk about how the player perform task like play, stop, fast forward, not about how good or bad sounds what it's already playing.

First of all I've upgraded the firmware to 1.81 beta. I know that would be said that it's a beta but some issues are so serious and obvious that must be detected and fixed.

I've found that the behavior of the player is very unstable. I mean not always preforms the tasks with the same pace, sometimes it simply doesn't. Let's say I put a sd card with just a few albums. Turn on the player. You see that it scans the sd card then stop. You check the files and all of them appears to be inside the player. Then you try to play a file and the display shows that the track is playing but you get no sound or crackling and chopped sound. You try to play other files with the same result, you try several times until you try to play the last album you played before you turn off the player and it plays perfect. Then you can play what ever you want. Then you turn off the played and when you restart it you encounter the same issue. I've found this to happen more often when I turn off the player on the fly, when I was playing something and hit the on/off button without stopping the playback first.

Other thing that I found it's that not always the players starts to play a track from the beginning. Sometimes it chops a couple of seconds. The weird thing is that sometimes it does and sometimes is doesn't, with the same track at different moments even if you repeat manually a track several times you could find a perfect clean begining of the track or a chopped one or even sometimes one with a "pop" just before the track begins to play. It's very strange that when I've connected the hm901 to the charger without battery it performs without this issue of the chopped beging tracks.

The cue support seems to work fine but I found an album that it doesn't and it jumps to the middle of the tracks but cos it's been only one and always the same album could be an issue of the cue sheet.
In general, I think that there's a problem in how the player uses the power from the battery that causes some issues. And also that the player doesn't "clean" or "refresh" its buffer or internal memory and then it get stalled.

This is what I expect, turn on my HM901 and be able to play any of the files on the sd card with out jumping from track to track until one track plays. And that when I play a track it starts playing from the "very beginning" without residual noises. In my case I'll prefer that it would take a second or two for start playing than immediately but definitely I don't want that crops the first notes of the song.

I would like to add that I've tried to explain myself the most clear that I could (English is my second language) and that my intention is that HiFiMAN takes note of this issues and fixes them in the upcoming firmware updates.
Edited by fermelom - 8/28/13 at 12:25am
post #1125 of 3024

 

Received my JH16Pro today. So pumped. Though I'm not getting a lot of punch in the bass department when pairing with the HM-901, and I'm using the balance card which is supposed to offer better extension and punchiness with bass...?

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