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post #691 of 3412
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Originally Posted by Jazzyfi View Post

You are always welcome to come to NL. We can meet up and you can try TP, AK120, amps, and some other stuff. Who knows you like the TP a lot and decide to buy it. One thing I can promise is that I'll sell it cheaper than the original price wink.gif.

I am soon going to start working on my master thesis since I will be second year student so until I defend it and finish this bloody thing, I can't take a visit to Netherlands but after my master why not. I already have your word on lower price biggrin.gif

post #692 of 3412
Just posted some impression of the Shure SE846 over at the shure thread. With its warmer and less resolving sound sig, I like it better when paired with my HM901 than my AK120...

post #693 of 3412
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Just posted some impression of the Shure SE846 over at the shure thread. With its warmer and less resolving sound sig, I like it better when paired with my HM901 than my AK120...

Why do you think the HM-901 pairs better?

Because it has higher resolution than AK120?

 

From what I have read the HM-901 has a somewhat warm sound to it ... so a warm 'phone could be too much, but obviously isn't ... ???

post #694 of 3412
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Why do you think the HM-901 pairs better?

Because it has higher resolution than AK120?

 

From what I have read the HM-901 has a somewhat warm sound to it ... so a warm 'phone could be too much, but obviously isn't ... ???

 

Actually I don't find HM-901 warmer than AK120 in general.  901 is definitely much less warm than 801.  But the SE846 pairing preference might have more to do with lower output impedance of the 901, and higher output driving the BAs.  Didn't have enough time to critically listen to them but these are my quick impressions.

post #695 of 3412
Okay. I already understood that the 901 is less warm than the 801, but as far as I have read, the 901 is warmer than the DX100. That's why I called it warmer, but your post implies that the AK120 is somewhat warm too?
post #696 of 3412
@ kkcc (and others who has balanced TRRS plug cables for their IEMs/CIEMs)
What is your impressions having IEMs/CIEMs balanced with your 901?
Edited by LarsHP - 7/16/13 at 11:54pm
post #697 of 3412
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Originally Posted by LarsHP View Post

Okay. I already understood that the 901 is less warm than the 801, but as far as I have read, the 901 is warmer than the DX100. That's why I called it warmer, but your post implies that the AK120 is somewhat warm too?

In terms of warmth IMO, HM801>>AK120> HM901>AK100>DX100. This is based largely when paired with TG334.
post #698 of 3412
I didn't have a chance to A/B the same cable balanced vs single ended so my impression is more of a general one. The SE mode is simulated with the trrs-> normal 3.5 converter that came with the re600. With the balanced cable in balanced mode the sound becomes "bigger" - wider/farther soundstage, more clarity/transparent. You get higher volume also (I tried my best in volume matching for the comparison).
post #699 of 3412

I have talked with Hifiman customer service by emails, they said next month they will launch HM901 with 'balanced card' in Europe. Good news I guess. Now I have to start saving money again and again happy_face1.gif

 

Where can I get those special balanced cables to use with an iem and enjoy the balanced features of balanced source? Not now but in the future it can be helpful for me.

post #700 of 3412
Thanks kkcc.

I wasn't aware that the AK120 is warmer sounding than the HM-901. In my experience, in many cases warmth and transparency go in opposite directions: you either get more warmth and less transparency or the other way around. Do you think this also applies to the DAPs you listed? Hopefully 901 has a fair amount of warmth AND very high transparency. That's my goal sonically.

Regarding the balanced drive of IEMs/CIEMs it seems this impacts them just like full size headphones. You experience this with both BA driver IEMs/CIEMs and dynamic drivers?
post #701 of 3412
Double Helix Cables has IEM cables with TRRS termination.
post #702 of 3412
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Originally Posted by LarsHP View Post

Double Helix Cables has IEM cables with TRRS termination.

Thanks, I am going to check it when the time comes happy_face1.gif

post #703 of 3412
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Originally Posted by LarsHP View Post

Thanks kkcc.

I wasn't aware that the AK120 is warmer sounding than the HM-901. In my experience, in many cases warmth and transparency go in opposite directions: you either get more warmth and less transparency or the other way around. Do you think this also applies to the DAPs you listed? Hopefully 901 has a fair amount of warmth AND very high transparency. That's my goal sonically.

Regarding the balanced drive of IEMs/CIEMs it seems this impacts them just like full size headphones. You experience this with both BA driver IEMs/CIEMs and dynamic drivers?

Yes have same effect for w4r and tg334, as well as hybrid 1plus2. Effect seems to be more prominent on 1plus2 tho but still less than full size cans.

On the warmth/transparency, I get what you are saying and in fact it may be more precise to say hm901 is more resolving than ak120 than saying which is warmer. Also ak120 became less warm with recent firmwares compared to the original 1.00, and neither is as warm as 801. There are indeed 801 users who went back to it feeling 901 lost that mid coloration they loved. Interested to see your take when your 901 arrives.
post #704 of 3412
So am I! I do, however, expect the extra transparency to be what I want. Not that the 801 is too warm. It's just that it's at a cost (a thin veil).

Your comment about the 901 being higher resolving than AK120 which might make it sound less warm, makes me even more sure I chose the right DAP for me.
post #705 of 3412
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Originally Posted by LarsHP View Post

So am I! I do, however, expect the extra transparency to be what I want. Not that the 801 is too warm. It's just that it's at a cost (a thin veil).

Your comment about the 901 being higher resolving than AK120 which might make it sound less warm, makes me even more sure I chose the right DAP for me.
I remember a list of the amp cards planned for the hm-901 where one of the cards was a mimic of the stock amp card of the 801. It seems that you can have a better dac than the 801 but with that sound signature that some people love in the 901 using that card. If you love 801 that would be a great option.
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