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post #1741 of 1872

It's Friday, lets have some fun.  Friday Night Lights. 

 

post #1742 of 1872
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Originally Posted by WNBC View Post
 

Thanks for insight.  USAF-596, one of these days......:D  

 

 

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Originally Posted by longbowbbs View Post
 

I had Mullard EL84's with a Genalex Gold Lion 6922 and a USAF-596 for the Taboo. The CSP2+ had the stock 6N1P and a pair of Genalex Gold Lion's with another USAF-596. Loved it.

I am amazed how that tube has just gone into orbit in cost. I got my first one for $20. Now they are $200 if you can find one.

post #1743 of 1872
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Originally Posted by WNBC View Post
 

It's Friday, lets have some fun.  Friday Night Lights. 

 

 

Nice...Maybe it's just the picture? But my Taboo seems to "glow" a lot brighter than the CSP3. Is that the case with everyone who has this combo? Your looks equally bright for both. 

 

And.. Your question about tubes w/ HD800. CSP3 Philips 5RRGYS, Genelex 6922 in the front and a pair of Cryoset 6N1P. Taboo has RCA 5Y3GT, 6N1P in the front and a pair of Amperex Holland EL84. Pretty good, though I haven't tried a whole lot of rolling though yet with the HD800. Different choices than LCD-3

post #1744 of 1872

This thread has been lively lately.  To chime in, my Taboo 3 hums when I crank it up all the way.  I don't know if it's tubes, crappy wiring in my 80 year old building, or something with the Taboo, but I'm not really bothered because I keep it around 15 clicks, or so, and use the CSP3 for volume control.  It's just so tough to troubleshoot given my current situation.

 

But to be honest, I've only heard one other headphone amp that completely blew me away compared to the Taboo 3, and that was the Cavalli Liquid Gold, and you can buy 3 Taboo 3's for the cost of that beautiful beast.  Others I've heard are very good but also start getting expensive if you want comparable performance.  Given all that, I decided long ago to keep my Taboo 3 and just enjoy it.  All-in-all, my experience has been as expected or better given the early reviews (early reviewers reported the hum) and other info. I considered. 

 

Also, I'm jealous that none of my tubes looks blue when I photograph it like that :D 


Edited by OPR8R - 12/27/13 at 1:10pm
post #1745 of 1872

I had the Taboo MKII and the brightness is about the same for me but also a lot of the same tubes :)

 

I don't know much about tubes but I think brightness is more tube-dependent.  I've had some 6922s that are bright and some not so bright.  I had a EML 5U4G that was much brighter than my current 5U4s.  I'm a novice tube roller.

 

Thanks for the tube suggestions.  The HD800 is a little hot so looking for right tubes to do a little taming.  Will also try cables and various headphone mods.  Other than that I can tell the HD800 does pair well with the CSP/Taboo combo.

 

 

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Originally Posted by thegrobe View Post
 

Nice...Maybe it's just the picture? But my Taboo seems to "glow" a lot brighter than the CSP3. Is that the case with everyone who has this combo? Your looks equally bright for both. 

 

And.. Your question about tubes w/ HD800. CSP3 Philips 5RRGYS, Genelex 6922 in the front and a pair of Cryoset 6N1P. Taboo has RCA 5Y3GT, 6N1P in the front and a pair of Amperex Holland EL84. Pretty good, though I haven't tried a whole lot of rolling though yet with the HD800. Different choices than LCD-3

post #1746 of 1872

I have only heard a couple lower end tube amps and the Decware by far is the best sounding one.  When I get the itch I sometimes start thinking about new amps but all I have to do is play some music through the Decware amps and it brings me back to reality.  

 

As for 3 Decware amps vs Cavalli Liquid Gold, I see that you do have a 3 Decware amps....:beerchug: 

 

 

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Originally Posted by OPR8R View Post
 

This thread has been lively lately.  To chime in, my Taboo 3 hums when I crank it up all the way.  I don't know if it's tubes, crappy wiring in my 80 year old building, or something with the Taboo, but I'm not really bothered because I keep it around 15 clicks, or so, and use the CSP3 for volume control.  It's just so tough to troubleshoot given my current situation.

 

But to be honest, I've only heard one other headphone amp that completely blew me away compared to the Taboo 3, and that was the Cavalli Liquid Gold, and you can buy 3 Taboo 3's for the cost of that beautiful beast.  Others I've heard are very good but also start getting expensive if you want comparable performance.  Given all that, I decided long ago to keep my Taboo 3 and just enjoy it.  All-in-all, my experience has been as expected or better given the early reviews (early reviewers reported the hum) and other info. I considered. 

 

Also, I'm jealous that none of my tubes looks blue when I photograph it like that :D 

post #1747 of 1872
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Originally Posted by WNBC View Post

 

I have only heard a couple lower end tube amps and the Decware by far is the best sounding one.  When I get the itch I sometimes start thinking about new amps but all I have to do is play some music through the Decware amps and it brings me back to reality.  

 

As for 3 Decware amps vs Cavalli Liquid Gold, I see that you do have a 3 Decware amps....:beerchug: 

 

Wellll, I wouldn't count the phono pre, but touche :D

 

To my ears the Taboo + CSP3 gives most setups I've heard a run for their money.  I have to admit though, I am curious about how the CSP3 would sound with something like the GSX 2, which I found to be very good (but pricey).  That would still be lots less than the Liquid Au.

post #1748 of 1872

Only hum I ever heard (beside when I tried IEMS on it for kicks) from the Taboo MKIII was when I had it over at my sisters house, I attribute it to the wiring in her place, as I have not heard it since.

post #1749 of 1872
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This could technically be done externally if the right resistors were used.

Mouser # 71-CW005150R0JE73 which is a 150 ohm exactly matches what’s on the inside.  You could go as high a 1K with some phones or IEMs.

 

Steve said the above. Do you have any idea what he meant with "externally" ? :P 

post #1750 of 1872
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This could technically be done externally if the right resistors were used.

Mouser # 71-CW005150R0JE73 which is a 150 ohm exactly matches what’s on the inside.  You could go as high a 1K with some phones or IEMs.

 

Steve said the above. Do you have any idea what he meant with "externally" ? :P 

He meant if you did it yourself or it was done locally rather that at Decware....

post #1751 of 1872

If I was outside of EU I would ask Steve to mail me the correct resistors with instructions to have a local technician fix. 

 

My builder sent me this simple picture with instructions and some resistors to adjust my headphone output to better suit low impedance cans.

Maybe Steve can do something similar for his overseas owners.

 

 

This is my little amp: Abraxas Spud by Jef Larson...

 

Good Luck!

 

post #1752 of 1872

This is what I am trying to do now. 

 

Steve said something :

 

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Originally Posted by ZenTriode View Post
 

.....

 

This could technically be done externally if the right resistors were used.

Mouser # 71-CW005150R0JE73 which is a 150 ohm exactly matches what’s on the inside.  You could go as high a 1K with some phones or IEMs.

 

.....

 

 

Hope this helps!

 

Steve Deckert

 

Maybe adding another one of these in series would be ok?

 

Anyway...humm and all...it is still an excellent amplifier. I stress so much about it because it is so good. After I get this off my head...I will be extremely happy! I just love it. The transparency with it is just amazing!


Edited by dan.gheorghe - 12/28/13 at 9:22am
post #1753 of 1872
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Originally Posted by dan.gheorghe View Post
 

This is what I am trying to do now. 

 

Steve said something :

 

Maybe adding another one of these in series would be ok?

 

In my case I could tack another resistor across the existing resistors to change the load but you need to know the equations. 

This way you can return the amp to original spec by snipping out the additional resistors you added.

You need to get exact instructions and specifications from Steve for your amp.

 

These are the instructions I received to go with image Jef sent of my amp:

 

In the second pic showing 2 x 330 ohm.

these are the "lift" resistors, which help reduce noise.

These can also be changed, but probably not shorted out.

I suggest leaving existing ones in place and tack solder either another 330 or

a 270 or even a 220 ohm unit across each.

330 will yield 165 ohms.

270 = 148 ohms

220 = 132 ohms (considered about "normal")

1/2 watt resistors are enough. Don't use carbon film here.

I can send you some resistors if you need to take this step.

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

 

Again, good luck. 

post #1754 of 1872
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Originally Posted by parbaked View Post
 

In my case I could tack another resistor across the existing resistors to change the load but you need to know the equations. 

This way you can return the amp to original spec by snipping out the additional resistors you added.

You need to get exact instructions and specifications from Steve for your amp.

 

These are the instructions I received to go with image Jef sent of my amp:

 

In the second pic showing 2 x 330 ohm.

these are the "lift" resistors, which help reduce noise.

These can also be changed, but probably not shorted out.

I suggest leaving existing ones in place and tack solder either another 330 or

a 270 or even a 220 ohm unit across each.

330 will yield 165 ohms.

270 = 148 ohms

220 = 132 ohms (considered about "normal")

1/2 watt resistors are enough. Don't use carbon film here.

I can send you some resistors if you need to take this step.

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

 

Again, good luck. 

 

It would be just awesome if Steve would give some accurate instructions on the matter. For example specifying what resistors to chose, how and where to put them, maybe in a way to keep the right side(with the single output and 4pin xlr balanced output) with lower gain and the left one with the default gain.


Edited by dan.gheorghe - 12/28/13 at 9:41am
post #1755 of 1872
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Originally Posted by dan.gheorghe View Post
 

 

It would be just awesome if Steve would give some accurate instructions on the matter. For example specifying what resistors to chose, how and where to put them, 

Yes, this is what I received from the gentleman who built my amp - and I am not even the original owner!

I think it is reasonable given Decware's lifetime warranty and the obvious risks and costs to ship from overseas...

I suspect Steve does not want to prescribe fixes without investigating the actual unit.

Perhaps you need someone in the US, who has the same issue, to get their amp fixed and inform you the remedy.

Again, Good Luck. I know I would be frustrated in our shoes...

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