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post #106 of 1872

I purchased a new factory "second" set of Heresy III speakers for the Taboo.  99dB.  I like the speed, attack, and clarity.  All the friends that listen to my system are enthralled by the clarity of the Heresy, but I think that has more to do with the Taboo, CSP2+ combo.  I hooked up a powered sub to the CSP2+ as well.  I have to be careful how much I turn up the volume on the sub or how high I turn up the Hz crossover because it makes the music fatiguing.  I would love to have a $3k to $4k fast, tight, remote control sub.  I would also like to have a great turntable.  These are things I research and dream about when I buy a Powerball ticket.

post #107 of 1872
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Originally Posted by AiDee View Post

Looks interesting. Not necessarily advocating blumenstein orcas (although one of our group uses them with taboo), but their site has a FAQ that makes a lot of sense to me. Here's the link.http://www.blumensteinaudio.com/faq/orca-speakers/orca-efficiency.html

When you mention synergy below do you mean with the parkers, or high eff' speakers in general?

 

Parkers in particular, apparently these 95 mkII were specifically designed with the se34i.3 in mind and are really well matched to Decware amps generally.  

post #108 of 1872

Those orcas look very nice, but 100hz bottom end seems to force the use of a sub, which I'd like to avoid due to space constraints (home office in my apartment, shares a wall with my neighbor's bedroom).

 

I'm looking for something which ideally can get down to 45-55hz on it's own and maybe add a sub in a few years when I move to a larger apartment or house. 

post #109 of 1872
^ Yes I since read the testimonials. Steve evidently approved of the first version. They include sensible features like (so it looks in the picture) a curved cabinet which IIRC helps eliminate internal standing waves (less bracing needed). Simple, almost cross-overless design.

I'm using Kef unipolar satellites from the KEF KIT 100 (a home theatre system), about 85dB efficient without sub. Taboo makes them sound really good, but with that efficiency they're best near-field. (I've tried Taboo twice with my main speakers, normally driven by an SS monster amp. Taboo does a good job with these speakers too - five drivers but a simple crossover. They reach a claimed but plausible 90dB/1W/1m).

I was strongly tempted by the Orcas for my home study/office. These Parkers might be better - as you say, they provide more bass reach.

Btw, it was really the FAQ about efficiency I was pointing to. Some speakers (not the Parkers I would think) have a shouty driver and unbalanced FR meaning their claimed high efficiency can be misleading. Well, so the FAQ claims ;-)

Edit: I hear you about the sub. I use one driven from the CSP2, using the CSP2 in combo with the Taboo. With speakers, the Taboo works best with CSP2 in front. I turn the sub waaay down. It's presence is subtle, but I sure notice it's missing when I turn it off. So does my wife, who is greatly relieved when I do that!
Edited by AiDee - 3/24/13 at 1:51am
post #110 of 1872
I am still in love with the Tekton Pendragon. I looked at the Souls, but the Tektons are just a better value all around. I spoke to Eric, who makes them and he said that they would pair beautifully. He is a real craftsman, kind of like Steve Deckert. Not the most attractive speaker made, but I have no WAF to consider now that I am divorced. The Tekton Lore's or Enzo's are a bit smaller and still have great efficiency and range. The Enzo's are 6 ohm, but I am sure they would still be pretty great.

I also considered the Decware MG944, but they don't have quite the full range or sensitivity of the Pendragons. They look a world better though.

One of the things I love about my CSP-Taboo combo is it's versatility, but it also makes me get tired head looking at all the options both with phones and with speakers.

I wish I could just buy all the best cans, but that just will not make my budget anytime soon.
post #111 of 1872
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I am still in love with the Tekton Pendragon. I looked at the Souls, but the Tektons are just a better value all around. I spoke to Eric, who makes them and he said that they would pair beautifully. He is a real craftsman, kind of like Steve Deckert. Not the most attractive speaker made, but I have no WAF to consider now that I am divorced. The Tekton Lore's or Enzo's are a bit smaller and still have great efficiency and range. The Enzo's are 6 ohm, but I am sure they would still be pretty great.

I also considered the Decware MG944, but they don't have quite the full range or sensitivity of the Pendragons. They look a world better though.

One of the things I love about my CSP-Taboo combo is it's versatility, but it also makes me get tired head looking at all the options both with phones and with speakers.

I wish I could just buy all the best cans, but that just will not make my budget anytime soon.

So Eric is comfortable with the CSP2+>Taboo>Pendragon combo....given the review of the Pendragon that would be something for the money! I would love to hear them sometime.
post #112 of 1872
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Originally Posted by snapontom View Post

I purchased a new factory "second" set of Heresy III speakers for the Taboo.  99dB.  I like the speed, attack, and clarity.  All the friends that listen to my system are enthralled by the clarity of the Heresy, but I think that has more to do with the Taboo, CSP2+ combo.  I hooked up a powered sub to the CSP2+ as well.  I have to be careful how much I turn up the volume on the sub or how high I turn up the Hz crossover because it makes the music fatiguing.  I would love to have a $3k to $4k fast, tight, remote control sub.  I would also like to have a great turntable.  These are things I research and dream about when I buy a Powerball ticket.

Well, I went and looked at a used pair of Heresy IIs today, and they sound just great. However, they are way too big for my listening area so I will have to draw a line through that option. The guy whose pair I auditioned was running them through a Decware mini-tor and they sounded awesome though, so if you do have the space for them they are a great option for Decware amps.

Make sure if you buy a pair though that they'be been serviced recently or plan on taking them in to be re-capped, etc.
post #113 of 1872
Anyone tried Tekton 81t? Seems like they might do well for a bookshelf/desktop system with the Taboo. I really wish I had room for towers, damn apartment living.
post #114 of 1872

I had not heard of Tekton until recently. Interesting running around their website. Another possible option with the Taboo....

post #115 of 1872
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by longbowbbs View Post

I had not heard of Tekton until recently. Interesting running around their website. Another possible option with the Taboo....

I had mentioned this but besides Tektron the Omega speakers are also a great option with the Decware amps. Louis Choco from Omega in Connecticut been build speakers for ove r20 years and they are also fantastic speakers with the taboo. He has the Hoyst Beresford line he sells for about 750.00 with a single 8 inch driver and like 98DB efficiency. 

post #116 of 1872

I'm doing some "due dilligence" window shopping for DACs today.  Everyone hates the Bifrost apparently, so I guess I should look around regardless of the fact that I have no complaints about the Bifrost whatsoever over toslink.  USB can be problematic sometimes on the Mac, I get occasional artifacts, but over toslink I've never experienced it, nor on Windows over USB with the driver.

 

Anyway, back to it.   How do y'all think a CEntrance DACmini CX would do with the Taboo MKIII?  I like that it has a pre-amp/headphone amp integrated into it, I am guessing that will help fill out the sound a bit with the Taboo?   Or is that something that I should be avoiding in this case?

 

EDIT:  The other one I'm looking at is the Metrum Octave (or Octave Mk II if I can import one somehow with 115v.)


Edited by toschek - 3/25/13 at 10:44am
post #117 of 1872
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Originally Posted by toschek View Post

EDIT:  The other one I'm looking at is the Metrum Octave (or Octave Mk II if I can import one somehow with 115v.)

 

One up in the For Sale area for a nice price....

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/657012/metrum-octave-nos-mini-dac-near-mint

post #118 of 1872
toschek, you could do worse than start with Bifrost! It aint bad, but the Taboo is so transparent and resolving (dependent on tube choice of course) you can definitely hear DAC differences.

Of course, there's better around - which is why Schiit themselves have Gungnir and (eventually) their statement dac placed above it.

Have you read through the Metrum Octave thread? It seems (though this is not universally agreed) you need to feed it over-sampled input to avoid roll-off, typically -3dB at 20kHz with non-oversampling DACs like the Metrum.

In the thread I noticed a lot of people were highly enthused about its natural and resolving sound, but subsequently moved it on?! Not enough air, or hi-fi excitement perhaps? IDK.

The new Hex has re-energized interest and seems a stellar performer (Six Moons [hmm!] and more importantly some head-fier impressions). The Octave II inherits some of its technology. Meantime the original Octave is available at a discount with 40 units left as of a few days ago, and of course there's Eric's link above!

I would be surprised if you can't order it with 115v?!
post #119 of 1872

Part of the issue with the Octave seemed to be how to source it via USB. You need a Stello U3 or something like it to have a USB input for the Octave. By the time you add on that type of additional unit you are adding another $200-$500 to your chain. That puts you in W4S DAC-2 range....

post #120 of 1872

Yeah, I am just going to stick w/ what I have for now.  I could blow so much money for very minor improvements or worse yet, improvements that are not even audible.   What I really need to focus on is speakers, then phono stage & a then a decent MM cartridge.   I have so much vinyl and I'm seriously neglecting that part of my chain.

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