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post #1036 of 1864

Yikes.  Poor kid.  Hope everything works out well.

post #1037 of 1864
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Thanks Andre. Diabetes is a terrible disease... He will be OK in a few days.tough next few for him though.

Oh man that's a bummer. I hope he is feeling better soon.
post #1038 of 1864

Well I think I am about ready to place my order! Would anyone recommend getting the VCAPS or just stick with the beeswax? What about the XLR options? I am using the stock cable with my LCD2's and will upgrade eventually. Any advantage of the 4 pin over the 3 pin? Thanks all!

post #1039 of 1864
Mints you should read Steve's thread in the decware forums about his development of the Taboo III. He considers beeswax an upgrade. More detailed. See Eric's a visit to decware thread as well for more info about these caps.

4-pin versus 2x3-pin is merely a matter of preference. And that if you order 4-pin you'll get 2 sockets and be able to run two balanced hps. This is useful if you have two heads or a friend with the same music preferences biggrin.gif
post #1040 of 1864

Folks,

 

I am pleased to say the Taboo MK3 + Woo Wee is better than I expected driving the SR-007. These are not easy to drive to sound right. There's a catch: A preamp appears to be an absolute must.

 

On the other hand I should probably not go any further talking about the dark Stax side. Saying more would be fun spoiling. I will stop here.

 

I am still working on comparing rectifiers. It's been fun so far and I am down to 3 of them which I prefer above all others. So far. :) 


Edited by negura - 7/27/13 at 6:59pm
post #1041 of 1864

Here is the link to my Visit...

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/654644/a-visit-to-decware

 

I am back from the Jamboree. My sick Scout went home and is resting. All will be fine. Man am I tired! 15 days out, most in a tent. My JH16's saved me...Then I broke a pin off in the IEM and have to send them in...Always something. Enjoying my Decware suite atm...

 

CSP2+>Taboo MK III>DM945's.....Yes...Good to be home!

post #1042 of 1864

hi decwarefans, a noob question from me...

wat is the decware equivalent to this amp http://www.amazon.co.uk/electronics/dp/B00C4CDQDK ?

 

( i understand this amp can power the HE-6...so that started me thinking...)

post #1043 of 1864
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CSP2+>Taboo MK III>DM945's.....Yes...Good to be home!

 

Welcome back! 

 

 

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hi decwarefans, a noob question from me...

wat is the decware equivalent to this amp http://www.amazon.co.uk/electronics/dp/B00C4CDQDK ?

 

( i understand this amp can power the HE-6...so that started me thinking...)

 

I am not sure what the "equivalent" is/should be. The Icon is not in the same class as the Taboo.

 

Power isn't everything but the Icon doesn't really ooze it.

Low setting - 451mW at 32 ohm, 720mW at 50 ohm, 667mW at 150 ohm
Mid setting - 735mW and 10.5Vrms at 150 ohm, 653mW and 14Vrms at 300 ohm
High setting - 403mW and 11Vrms at 300 ohm, 482mW and 17Vrms at 600 ohm

 

That pretty much kills the deal with the HE-6s. And it's barely adequate for the Audeze.


Edited by negura - 7/27/13 at 7:12pm
post #1044 of 1864
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Originally Posted by Lorspeaker View Post

hi decwarefans, a noob question from me...

wat is the decware equivalent to this amp http://www.amazon.co.uk/electronics/dp/B00C4CDQDK ?

 

( i understand this amp can power the HE-6...so that started me thinking...)

The Mk 111 is not good for powering the HE6 it only puts out 1.7W into that load and cant drive the he6 properly. I also had that issue with the Mk11 and on dynamic recordings  it will clip big time

post #1045 of 1864

ooooo....thanks for the headsup, that solved the icon matter.:P

the search for a tube that kills the he6 remains..hmmm.

 

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post #1046 of 1864

Back in the Man cave with my Taboo MK III and HD800's. Steely Dan is sublime.....Post #4000 and all is well......

post #1047 of 1864

Update:

I have very recently received back my Toxic Cables Silver Widows reterminated to 4 pin balanced.

 

Findings:

- in balanced mode both lucid modes must stay OFF. In this mode either of the lucid modes seem to add low end distorsions/clipping on my bass heavy test tracks. Later edit (measuring problem): That is is around 80-85 SPL measured with stock tubes. And this is similar to what I am hearing through speakers and Stax (via Woo Wee), however those do give you lower volumes than on headphones at the same pot setting.

the combination of balanced output and a very good cable helps the LCD-3s along in transparency. Very pleased.

- my HD800s got sold. I am happier with the LCD-3s and Stax SR007.  Although I must say the HD800s sounded fantastic out of the Taboo.

 

One of my output tubes went bad, noticeable hum. So I binned the stock pair. Luckily I have 6p15p-ER russian military tubes. The latter sound similar to stock ones, but supposedly better reliability.

 

 

When it starts clipping:

 

Stock tubes:

- 82-83 dB SPL (measured with a meter) - no Lucid modes


Edited by negura - 7/29/13 at 9:58am
post #1048 of 1864
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Update:

I have very recently received back my Toxic Cables Silver Widows reterminated to 4 pin balanced.

 

Findings:

- in balanced mode both lucid modes must stay OFF. In this mode either of the lucid modes seem to add low end distorsions/clipping on my bass heavy test tracks. That is with no more than 70-72dB SPL measured, which is what I consider normal listening levels. And this is similar to what I am hearing through speakers and Stax (via Woo Wee).

 the combination of balanced output and a very good cable helps the LCD-3s along in transparency. Very pleased.

- my HD800s got sold. I am happier with the LCD-3s and Stax SR007.  Although I must say the HD800s sounded fantastic out of the Taboo.

 

One of my output tubes went bad, noticeable hum. So I binned the stock pair. Luckily I have 6p15p-ER russian military tubes. The latter sound similar to stock ones, but supposedly better reliability.

Interesting.  I listen with the volume around "the middle" and never experience distortions/clipping, and I listen to lots of bass.  I'll have to do some tests tonight.

post #1049 of 1864
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Interesting.  I listen with the volume around "the middle" and never experience distortions/clipping, and I listen to lots of bass.  I'll have to do some tests tonight.

 

I am not sure how to tell where middle is unless I am counting the clicks, as I have no indications with my pot.

 

My test tracks are:

Gothart (2000, Cabaret) - 13 Ketri Ketri.flac

Chris Jones - No Sanctuary Here.wav

 

Either of the tracks starts right away with strong deep bass. Any of the lucid modes will make it clip sooner. And this is also confirmed by the meter dials becoming uneasy and starting to move slightly. Btw, that's with the stock output tubes. I will pop in some Amperex EL84 to see if that gets better.

 

Later edit:

Much better with the Amperex EL84. Can get higher volume before the meters start moving. In the 90-95+ dB range with headphones, which is more than enough. I haven't exposed my ears to that, it's measured. Looks like I need to stick with the EL84 for running speakers/Stax. The 6p15p definetely clip sooner.


Edited by negura - 7/29/13 at 10:08am
post #1050 of 1864
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Originally Posted by negura View Post

 

I am not sure how to tell where middle is unless I am counting the clicks, as I have no indications with my pot.

 

My test tracks are:

Gothart (2000, Cabaret) - 13 Ketri Ketri.flac

Chris Jones - No Sanctuary Here.wav

 

Either of the tracks starts right away with strong deep bass. Any of the lucid modes will make it clip sooner. And this is also confirmed by the meter dials becoming uneasy and starting to move slightly. Btw, that's with the stock output tubes. I will pop in some Amperex EL84 to see if that gets better.

 

Later edit:

Much better with the Amperex EL84. Can get higher volume before the meters start moving. In the 90-95+ dB range with headphones, which is more than enough. I haven't exposed my ears to that, it's measured. Looks like I need to stick with the EL84 for running speakers/Stax. The 6p15p definetely clip sooner.

Wow.  So, I went and played with the volume a bit.  I can make the meters move around 14 or 15 clicks with or without Original Mode engaged.  They don't move much but they do.  I'd never seen that.  I could never listen that loud though.  This is with (Philips) EL84's.  I didn't listen during this test (call me chicken if you want), so I can't say much about distortions, but by watching the meters I didn't see much difference between Original on or off.  I'll test other tubes later.  Does the fun ever end with this?

 

But yeah, I count clicks.  Also, I think the nob isn't exactly round, so there may be a way to find where you are by feel.


Edited by OPR8R - 7/29/13 at 10:29am
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