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post #1 of 13
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So is anyone else wondering why mr.speakers is choosing to maufacture headphones with earpads on them that he made in his basement. This just doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever. There are plenty of good pad options out there that fit these headphones that his consumers are already familar with. I think Mr.speakers would be much better off producing a fischer or denon or even stax02 option. I know the stax option would raise the price allot but the fischer and denon are actually cheaper. Also why take away the 840 pad option. I was def. planning on buying the 840 pad version on 12/29 but got distracted and had to wait til 1/1/13. When I went back on 1/1 it said they were no longer available. I just can't wrap my head around why he would do that especially when the 840 was the cheapest option which to me is in true mr.speakers fassion performance over flashiness.

post #2 of 13
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Oh snap! I forgot to mention which pads I would like to see the most on a mad dog. FOSTEX!!! Can you imagine how slick a mad dog would look and probably sound with some th-600/900 pads on them. Downrite buttery if you ask me.

post #3 of 13
I rather trust Dan's own pads on the modified Fostex.
post #4 of 13
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Well I've tested out and owned several highend pads. Angle pads, Jmoney's, both audeze's, and stax02. I also own the dog pads and I can tell you that they fall way way short of those pads. My gripes are that while its real leather it's very cheap leather. The padding is way to thin and uniform (no angles) and the mesh used is cheap as well. The only bright spot I saw was that the stiching was nicely done. The alpha pads I have not tried out yet. Headfier's have said that they are stax like. I see denon pads not stax. The denon pads are discontinued but still available $45 through lawton audio. Anywho I would really like to see one of the following A: Bring the 840 pad ver. back or offer a stock t50rp pad ver. B: Offer up the tune ala carte like lawton does. or C: If you wana go premium vs cheap offer up a stax02 or th-600/900 pad ver.

 

If I came off that he should stop making the dog or alpha pad ver. all together that is not what I meant. Just offer a mainstream pad ver. along side of it. I say this because I've offered up my dogpads to 3 different headfiers who own t50rp's for $10 and all of them said no. By my calculations I paid $48 for them and that is a really small return for somethin that is brand new. I dunno mayb I just ran into some bad luck with those particular guys but any mainstream pad wouldv'e sold in a heartbeat for 80% of what I paid for them in the same condition.

 

In the long term scheme of things I will agree that develping his own pads will probably lead to a cheaper more effective earpad. However headphones seem like a really short term market at least to me. Mr.speakers also has a 2-3 day wait now on his headphones and I bet ya good money it's cause he is selling the alphapads at a much faster rate than he anticipated. Lff uses fischer's very cheap and proven on a t50rp.

post #5 of 13
Who buys headphones for the resale value - let alone headphone pads? True, some rare headphones hold their values and an even rarer few appreciate in value.

Seems a bit of a fool's occupation to me. Perhaps you should collect tubes instead? Truly, they are more likely appreciate in value.
post #6 of 13
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I don't remember saying anything about buying them for their resale value. I just think a regular pad offering seems like a good idea. Especially for those who are on the fence about mr.speakers pads and want to try out their own pad options. Mr.speakers own findings show that pads make a significant difference in how they sound. The fact that you can get 80% for regular pads if they aren't your cup of tea vs. 20% for mr.speakers pads is just icing on the cake for the purchaser.

 

If you like mr.speakers earpads that's awesome. I have to say though that I've owned angle pads and currently own jmoney's and you can totally tell that those guys put years into making them and mr.speakers has put in months tops. At least until he's put years into making pads I think it's a good idea to offer a regular pad version or offer up the tune ala carte.

post #7 of 13
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Even a stock t50rp pad version would work just fine and mr.speakers doesn't have to do anything like find or test other regular pads. A version like that for around $250 would sell like hotcakes I think especially since he pretty much caters to modders. When you offer up no regular pad version it looks like you only care about one thing and it aint sound.

post #8 of 13
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Originally Posted by antimatter View Post

Well I've tested out and owned several highend pads. Angle pads, Jmoney's, both audeze's, and stax02. I also own the dog pads and I can tell you that they fall way way short of those pads. My gripes are that while its real leather it's very cheap leather. The padding is way to thin and uniform (no angles) and the mesh used is cheap as well. The only bright spot I saw was that the stiching was nicely done. The alpha pads I have not tried out yet. Headfier's have said that they are stax like. I see denon pads not stax. The denon pads are discontinued but still available $45 through lawton audio. Anywho I would really like to see one of the following A: Bring the 840 pad ver. back or offer a stock t50rp pad ver. B: Offer up the tune ala carte like lawton does. or C: If you wana go premium vs cheap offer up a stax02 or th-600/900 pad ver.

 

If I came off that he should stop making the dog or alpha pad ver. all together that is not what I meant. Just offer a mainstream pad ver. along side of it. I say this because I've offered up my dogpads to 3 different headfiers who own t50rp's for $10 and all of them said no. By my calculations I paid $48 for them and that is a really small return for somethin that is brand new. I dunno mayb I just ran into some bad luck with those particular guys but any mainstream pad wouldv'e sold in a heartbeat for 80% of what I paid for them in the same condition.

 

In the long term scheme of things I will agree that develping his own pads will probably lead to a cheaper more effective earpad. However headphones seem like a really short term market at least to me. Mr.speakers also has a 2-3 day wait now on his headphones and I bet ya good money it's cause he is selling the alphapads at a much faster rate than he anticipated. Lff uses fischer's very cheap and proven on a t50rp.


Alpha pads are completely different level of workmanship. Much better than Dog Pads and Lawton Angle pads. Look commercial quality, not something made in a basement.

post #9 of 13
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Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post


Alpha pads are completely different level of workmanship. Much better than Dog Pads and Lawton Angle pads. Look commercial quality, not something made in a basement.

Well that is awesome. I do have a really hard time believing that they are better than angle pads though. I didn't care for angle pads at first but once their foam is broken in they are very yummy and probably my overall fav. other than the stax02's.

 

I guess what I'm lookin for is a small group of people that are passionate about these headphones that could mayb do some r and d and/or testing to find a regular version earpad that defintivly works the best. I personally am going to try and see what I can do about gettin some th-600/900 pads and test them out cause at least to me it sounds sick. I still think the 840 pad or stock t50rp pad ver. isn't a horrible idea. A naked mad dog would be the ultimate but that is asking allot of mr.speakers.

 

Also somthing in my headphone gut is telling me that he or his pad supplier is going to run into supply issues sooner rather than later. My gut's tellin me late summertime this year. Sorry for the basement comment, that was a bit harsh in retrospect but I think you know what I meant.


Edited by antimatter - 3/16/13 at 10:29am
post #10 of 13
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Originally Posted by antimatter View Post

Well that is awesome. I do have a really hard time believing that they are better than angle pads though.

 

They are, I personally wasn't really floored by Lawton pads quality.


Don't really understand the whole point of this thread. I doubt that you'll find any sonic improvement going different route than Alpha Pads, Dan has done quite an R&D designing them to get the best comfort and sound.

If you are nitpicking on quality of the leather, it's a lamb skin (one of the finest I've seen, btw), i.e. natural product and you will see some imperfections/variations between pads, same as you can see on commercially available *natural* leather pads like ATH woodies and Sony MDR-SA5000.
 

And I agree, with the current demand on Mad Dogs they can run out of lambs "sooner or later", LOL biggrin.gif


Edited by Andrew_WOT - 3/16/13 at 1:10pm
post #11 of 13

1. There is a HUGE SQ improvement between the Shure pads and the Alpha pads across the entire spectrum.

 

2. Shure pads are still available as an option. I'm not sure if you can still order the complete mod with the Shure pads. I'm definitely sure that you wouldn't want to.

 

If $50 means the world to you, then I certainly understand that. I'd tell you to save the money and get a much better sounding hp with the Alpha pads. 

 

3. The MD with Alpha Pads is one of the best bargains in the game IMHO. Based on the sound they could easily cost considerably more. I would rather save and buy the best that he has to offer than to settle for inferior sound and less comfort. 

 

my 2c...

post #12 of 13
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@matttcg 1. I knew about the sq improvements of alpha pads vs.840. 2. When I bought my mad dog only the dogpad ver. was available and malveux who I don't always agree wit but trust when it comes to the sound of the headphone was peppered all over sayin stax pads over dog in november and december so that's my reason for really wantin the 840 pad + mod ver. 3. That's friggin awesome he got it nailed on the head this second time around wit the alpha pads. The dog pads just didn't cut it for me at all.

 

@andrewwot My main point of this thread is to try and recruit some people that like the headphone enuff to spend some loot and take one for the team and try out and test dif. pads. I am eventually going to send my stax pad ver. off to tyll for testing and if I can afford it the th-600/900 pads. Regular mainstream earpads are usually a quick sell for close to what you pay for them and I don't think this testing is going to bankrupt me or anyone else. Even if mr.speakers doesn't have any supply issues it can't be negative to have a back up plan.

 

@disastermouse While I get where your comin from mr.speakers own tests conclude that these are some of the most if not the most pad sensitve headphones on the market. Mayb it's an ortho thing? Anyway that's why I don't think this is foolish.


Edited by antimatter - 3/17/13 at 12:04am
post #13 of 13

Does anyone know the size of the Alpha Pads? They look very nice, and I am looking for something to use for some of my vintage headphones.

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