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post #16 of 39
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Originally Posted by Element2k3 View Post

I'm kinda in your same situation. Only that my options are the D2X, Titanium HD and Essence STX. And when it comes to headphones, I'm looking mainly at the Sony MDR-1R and the AKG K550 (has to be a closed headphone, otherwise my gf is going to annoy me because of sound leakage).

While the ST/STX has a built in amp that is quiet good, it isn't as good for low impedance headphones (HD 598, Audio Technica, MDR-1R and so on). The same goes for the Titanium HD. Now, from my research it seems that it would be better to get a D2X (very good dac) and combine it with an external amp like the Schiit Magni. Low impedance headphones will sound better than on the ST/STX/Titanium HD and seen that you can get the D2X for a very good price, it should fit your $ 150 budget....and that is including the Magni.

now i did some research .. the whole thing is gonna cost me a lot more than my budget .. could you tell me why amps in titanium hd and stx are not good for low impedance  ... sorry i'm a little bit noob  

post #17 of 39

That is, because the output impedance should be 1/8 of the impedance of your headphone. The Titanium HD has 32 ohms and the STX is 10 ohms of ouput impedance. The Magni on the other hand has an output of 0.1 ohms.

But didn't you write you had a budget of $150 and that you can get the D2X for cheap? The Magni costs $99

post #18 of 39
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Originally Posted by Element2k3 View Post

That is, because the output impedance should be 1/8 of the impedance of your headphone. The Titanium HD has 32 ohms and the STX is 10 ohms of ouput impedance. The Magni on the other hand has an output of 0.1 ohms.

But didn't you write you had a budget of $150 and that you can get the D2X for cheap? The Magni costs $99

Total Cost Would Be Something like 200$ Soundcard from amazon at my country ... so what do u think
P.S I'm not sure that my final choice is HD598 ... could pick other headphone too ... still researching ..
but i could buy the soundcard now and enjoy some sound improvement with my current AURVANA !

post #19 of 39
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Bump , now the Asus Xonar Essence STX Can Fit In My By Budget ... Any Suggestions !??

post #20 of 39
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What do you find lacking with the aurvana live? I've owned the 598's and found them to lack bass. It's there, it just has no punch.

Sorry I've Just Seen Your Post ... Aurvana Doesn't Lack Of Anything 
But I'm Looking For Better Headphones With Bigger Soundstage ... Aurvana Has A Closed Design I Couldn't Blame It 

Still I Wouldn't Give Up My Aurvana .. I Would Still Use It As  Portable Headphones .. It's A Very Amazing One 

post #21 of 39
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Sorry I've Just Seen Your Post ... Aurvana Doesn't Lack Of Anything 
But I'm Looking For Better Headphones With Bigger Soundstage ... Aurvana Has A Closed Design I Couldn't Blame It 

Still I Wouldn't Give Up My Aurvana .. I Would Still Use It As  Portable Headphones .. It's A Very Amazing One 

 

Have you looked at Beyerdynamic? They have some open headphones at the same price point of the Senns. If you live near a Guitar Center you can try them out. 

post #22 of 39

did you made a decision on the DAC+Amp.? if not what is your new budget.?

post #23 of 39
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Have you looked at Beyerdynamic? They have some open headphones at the same price point of the Senns. If you live near a Guitar Center you can try them out. 

No ,, Not Available At My Country >>> If U Tried Any Tell What U Think Of Them ..

post #24 of 39
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did you made a decision on the DAC+Amp.? if not what is your new budget.?

No, Not Yet .
My new budget is 170$ DAC+Amp
P.S not it's not important for the DAC to have 5.1 outpot 

post #25 of 39

I currently have the X-Fi Titanium HD feeding into a Schiit Magni. For music and games it sounds great (I don't watch movies on my PC so I can't speak for that media). I know you aren't doing much gaming, but for gaming this card is superb (I'm not a competitive gamer by any means, I just enjoy the added immersion). Before putting the amp into my setup I was plugging my headphones directly into the sound card and it still sounded great. The sound card can easily drive low impedance cans to reasonable levels. I know somebody brought up the issue earlier regarding the impedance of the sound card headphone out being inadequate for low impedance phones but you claimed you aren't an "audiophile" and I don't think you will notice much (if any) of a difference. I found plugging headphones directly into the card to be a very satisfying experience.

 

I don't have any experience with the headphones in question so I can't comment on that aspect. I hope this helps some and let me know if I can comment on anything else regarding this topic for you.
 

post #26 of 39
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Originally Posted by Roy Munson View Post

I currently have the X-Fi Titanium HD feeding into a Schiit Magni. For music and games it sounds great (I don't watch movies on my PC so I can't speak for that media). I know you aren't doing much gaming, but for gaming this card is superb (I'm not a competitive gamer by any means, I just enjoy the added immersion). Before putting the amp into my setup I was plugging my headphones directly into the sound card and it still sounded great. The sound card can easily drive low impedance cans to reasonable levels. I know somebody brought up the issue earlier regarding the impedance of the sound card headphone out being inadequate for low impedance phones but you claimed you aren't an "audiophile" and I don't think you will notice much (if any) of a difference. I found plugging headphones directly into the card to be a very satisfying experience.

 

I don't have any experience with the headphones in question so I can't comment on that aspect. I hope this helps some and let me know if I can comment on anything else regarding this topic for you.
 

Okay You Already Helped ,,, But To Sum Up
TiHd or Zx or STX ... Just For Music ( Blues , Rock , Symphonic Metal , Classical )
I Would Really Like To Know Ur Opinion

post #27 of 39
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Originally Posted by tigerdx619 View Post

No ,, Not Available At My Country >>> If U Tried Any Tell What U Think Of Them ..

I Did Some research now and i really liked how people think of  Beyerdynamic DT 990 PRO 250 ohms

put i don't have any extra money to get an AMP ... what do u think ?!

post #28 of 39

You could always use your current sound card and forget the dac/amp for now. Might even turn out you wont need them. Imo it's always best to upgrade speakers/headphone first and leave dacs/amps for last

post #29 of 39
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Originally Posted by tigerdx619 View Post

No, Not Yet .
My new budget is 170$ DAC+Amp
P.S not it's not important for the DAC to have 5.1 outpot 

In that case i would recommend the HRT Microstreamer but that's 19 bucks more, but you get free shipping.... since you haven't mention your country..... dunno if you would get the free shipping....popcorn.gif   

 

The Microstreamer will suit any genre you're into...and best of all the damn thing sounds really good....o2smile.gif


Edited by Johnnyhi - 3/23/13 at 3:22pm
post #30 of 39
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Originally Posted by weez82 View Post

You could always use your current sound card and forget the dac/amp for now. Might even turn out you wont need them. Imo it's always best to upgrade speakers/headphone first and leave dacs/amps for last

True... but most 5.1 sound cards don't really work well for 2.0 audio/music...

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