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post #676 of 1213
Beautiful!
post #677 of 1213

Did some extensive listening with my Grado 325i's via the Verza attached to  vs. iPhone 5 headphone out vs. Firewire 410.    Against the iPhone, the vocals seem clearer and more detailed.   I think the CNET review hit it on the head " sans Verza sounds veiled, softer, and blurry by comparison".  Of course. I tried to match sound volumes, but I even made the Verza noticeably quieter to put it at a disadvantage and I still felt things were clearer and more defined.  Less veil.   

 

A bit closer compared to the Firewire 410.   I still felt I heard a bit more subtleties on the vocals, such as inhales and exhales that weren't as clear on the 410 vs. the Verza.   Soundstage seemed wider as well.   

 

A bit less time with the Heir 5.0+ but I did feel the bass was tightened up, which to me, was a good thing as the 5.0's are bass heavy.  More detailed sound.

 

Overall, it was an improvement but not dramatic enough to make it a no-brainer.   Whether or not it is worth the $600 + $100 case + $200 brokerage and import taxes into Canada (yeah, UPS went to town on brokerage fees) is up to debate.   However, as a portable device that was an upgrade for me across the board for my laptop, phone and tablet, it was cheaper than getting dedicated upgrades on each platform.  Since it lives in my gear bag and is no bigger than an external hard drive, I have it on me at all times.   

 

As for non-sound quality gripes

- top plate protrudes and is sharp

- lightning cable should be included with the iPhone 5 case or a coupon for one when they are available (I'm almost $1000 into this thing and I feel like I should have gotten a lightning cable and a basic carrying case)

- 3D button is too easy to activate and the 3D sound is, to me, entirely useless and wonky

- the headphone jack cut-out on the Metallo is way too small and for that reason alone, I have to keep my old case around and swap it in and out when I want to use headphones without the Verza

 

The docking mechanism is oh so sweet though.   Creates a solid metal brick.   I was thinking that you could probably buy a Metallo case and use some adhesive to attach the docking plate to whatever you wanted.  I don't see why you couldn't get this to work with other devices.

post #678 of 1213
Definitely saving up for this! Most fantastic looking portable amp I've ever seen!
post #679 of 1213

Just noticed on the v-moda site.... "Includes 4" USB to Lightning cable for iPhone 5 / iPod Touch (5th gen) / iPod Nano (7th gen) / iPad (4th gen) / iPad Mini" (with a new purchase of the Verza). 

But it does not appear you can buy the cable separately yet.

post #680 of 1213

I just noticed in the CLAS thread that Frank at Toxic Cables is making a nice lightening to mini-USB, I've sent him a message to see if he can do a similar cable with the full sized USB for the VERZA.

post #681 of 1213

I read a post further back by DrSheep that you can use ipods/iphones with the USB DAC rather than iAmp mode.  If that works, why is there even another DAC and iAmp mode to begin with?  

post #682 of 1213
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Originally Posted by bytor33 View Post

I read a post further back by DrSheep that you can use ipods/iphones with the USB DAC rather than iAmp mode.  If that works, why is there even another DAC and iAmp mode to begin with?  

The VERAZ was based on the VentureCraft Go-DAP X which has the two modes, but along the way they changed their firmware making iDevices work in both modes.  This is why now you can have your iPhone / iPod working on either mode with the VERZA.  However, the two modes use two different DAC and sounded slightly different.

post #683 of 1213

I see, thank you for the clarification.  It's odd they don't advertise that fact then, as the specs make it sound like iDevices can only be used in iAmp mode.  Can Android phones use the iAmp mode and DAC, or are they limited to the USB DAC? 

post #684 of 1213
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I see, thank you for the clarification.  It's odd they don't advertise that fact then, as the specs make it sound like iDevices can only be used in iAmp mode.  Can Android phones use the iAmp mode and DAC, or are they limited to the USB DAC? 


Android phones can only use the USB DAC mode. Supposedly, the iAmp DAC is better (and optimised for iDevices) but that could just be marketing. If they can shove two $5 DACs into a device and tell you their optimised for different devices and charge you $100 more....

Anyway, my inner cynic speaking. tongue.gif

post #685 of 1213
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Originally Posted by scolaiw View Post


Android phones can only use the USB DAC mode. Supposedly, the iAmp DAC is better (and optimised for iDevices) but that could just be marketing. If they can shove two $5 DACs into a device and tell you their optimised for different devices and charge you $100 more....

Anyway, my inner cynic speaking. tongue.gif

As far as I know that iAMP mode has a 130mW output vs. 150mW from USB-DAC mode.  Based on my testing that the USB-DAC mode sounded slightly louder but not necessary better.

post #686 of 1213

I recently noticed a crackling sound through Verza on all my tracks that I don't hear direct through my Iphone.  It sounds like a scratchy vinyl record.

 

Has anyone else experienced this?  If so, any suggestions before I contact V-Moda?

post #687 of 1213

No but tried different phones yet?

post #688 of 1213
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Originally Posted by DrSheep View Post

No but tried different phones yet?

Received a suggestion on the Venturecraft forum to try airplane mode and it worked!

post #689 of 1213
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Originally Posted by Craigster75 View Post

Received a suggestion on the Venturecraft forum to try airplane mode and it worked!

Nice, it got to be some kind of interference then.

post #690 of 1213
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Originally Posted by DrSheep View Post

Nice, it got to be some kind of interference then.

Crackling is back, even in airplane mode.  I hope to get this fixed.  In the process of listening extensively comparing Iphone direct vs. through Verza, it is really something how Verza opens up the soundstage, brings out detail and provides a fuller, richer sound across the range, particularly the low end with both my Sig DJ and M-100.  Even on older recordings, vocals give me goosebumps through Verza.  I suppose if I use my imagination, I can pretend I am back in 1984 listening to my old Technics turntable with Audio-Technica cartrige and imagine the "crackling" is turntable static happy_face1.gif

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