V-MODA VAMP VERZA/METALLO: Discussion/Feedback, Reviews, Pics, Crowdsourcing Ideas - Page 17

This looked really nice at first glance, the design is really cool, but unfortunately I'm not in for a smartphone change for awhile so I was looking for something even more versatile. I'm sorry if I have missed something here but it doens't go analog to analog - you need the USB input correct?

 

Seems like this one, and many others, still favors the iUnits mostly. Not so difficult to understand though since Android is all over the place with supporting sound both usb and Blue-tooth wise..

I don't think anyone has established that it is indeed a "massive" additional cost.  If it is only a small fee, say $30, I think you have already answered your question.  For $30 the cost difference is not significant enough to justify a separate model.  You also have to keep in mind, some people will want a device that works with both.  After all, what happens if someone buys a new phone?  I really don't think idevice compatibility has made a substantial difference in the end cost here, though I am just speculating.  

Lmao

Licensing or whatever is probably not a huge portion of the cost, but I imagine the design could be significantly simplified if they weren't trying to support both OS... Wouldn't need 2 DACs then would you?

Still tho, I even said it earlier, there's tons of people out there with Android phones AND iPads. Plus not a lot of Android phones right now would support this without software mods, so it was probably not the right time to release iOS & Android specific versions.

There's cheaper DAC/amps out there that will work with Android if you really want one, if you're balking at the price you're probably not the type of customer that was gonna drop another $100 on the Metallo.

No offense meant to anyone btw, even tho I appreciate V-moda's design I'm one of those who would pass mostly due to the price.

Oh and what's so "all over the place" about Android audio over BT? I've been using it without issue with various devices for about three years (across four different phones). Android actually had proper BT track controls implemented before iOS did, though that's no achievement since the Sony dumb phone I had 5 years ago had the same.

The USB digital audio implementation's definitely a mess since it was only added natively on Jelly Bean (4.1) and some manufacturers even had their own implementation. A lot of phones don't even have JB yet or won't have the proper kernel/drivers even post-JB. Ultimately it'll be a more open approach but until then it's a messier one, kind of like the OS trajectory.

In my option that the M-100 without the VERZA has decent treble and isn't as laid-back as some people have claimed.  However, since the VERZA gave off such a strong and forward bass, it pretty much drowns out some of the high note that I could hear before even with no EQ or 3D.  I just got my SA7 and I need to test this out more with my other IEMs.

I actually found that SonicMax Pro's BBE isn't that good compare to my VAMP or even the stock out from my iPhone/iPod, and this is why I don't use it much any,more.  But again I am no expert on the app and I found that it is hard to setup a profile just right.

Hi. New to the forums. Maybe I'm missing something but does the stock Apple lightning to USB not work as is? Why throw in the 30 pin adapter? (Sure, the length of the stock cable limits the compactness of the rig...)

Thanks for the impressions, DrSheep! I will hopefully get a chance to demo a VERZA soon.

You are on target. The stock (Very Long) cable will work. A shorter cable is less prone to get snagged while you are carrying around your rig. Currently, there are limited short cable choices for USB to Lightning.

 

Yep that's the only reason, and the best solution right now is to either get the short Lightning to micro USB cable like the one from VentureCraft, or get the Lightning to micro USB adapter from Apple and use the cable from the VERZA.

Do you have any other apps that eq like eq 10 or equalizer?

No sorry, only SonicMax Pro, but since you already mentioned it a couple of times and it is only a buck, I am getting it and try it out.  What settings would you like to see?

 

p.s. I am still testing the SA7 with and without the VERZA.  And from what I can tell so far, the VERZA sounds much more even for IEMs and give them more life compare to M-100.

Itouch 5g. I would just like your opinion on how it sounds when you boost the high end a bit.

Denon audio is free.

sonicmacpro is good on ipod touch/iphone but doesnt sound good through my fostex hp_p1.

equ is like denon audio but not free. Same designer.

equalizer is also good.

 

flacplayer app for flac and 10 band eq.

my favorite Flac app at the moment is accudio app.it has a free and a pro/paid version.

For the iTouch 5G with VERZA and EQ 10 and high end boost it sounds almost perfect for the SA7 (with default bass + and treble - tips).  For the M-100 the EQ 10 default flat setting is less bassy than the Apply music player, and with bass cut / high boost the sound is definitely more even and define.  As far as I can tell now that the VERZA really helps to drive my IEMs and boost the sound at all levels, but you will need to use something like EQ-10 to cut the bass or boost the high to make it more even sounding.