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post #76 of 148
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Originally Posted by reddragon View Post

no i have not tested the difference but when you upgrade it will be a pain to rip your songs again, why will i use lossy in the first place? 

 

Even if you upgrade, why would you have to rip your songs again?

 

Again - suggest do the test - and actually learn your own limits.

 

Use lossless for archive purposes (so you only have to rip once) - and also use for PC based listening (makes sense when space is not an issue)

 

Use lossy for portable based listening (ie transcode either separate copy - or transcode on the fly through iTunes).  That way you have more space - and you won't be able to tell the difference anyway.  Just set-up iTunes to transcode to aac256 automatically when transferring to the iPod.

 

EDIT - BTW transcoding is very simple.  Try dbpoweramp - can use multiple cores, and transcoding a full album takes well under a minute on my PC.


Edited by Brooko - 3/13/13 at 5:57pm
post #77 of 148
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Ok I will do that, sounds very complicated haha. I should beable to do it though but dont be surpised if you get a pm :) Im gonna have to delete my library and redownload than which isnt that big of a deal but are you sure I cant play Wave files on my ipod ? I converted the FLAC files i downloaded into Wave files using Winamp and that worked. I will download the apple lossless though or a differant file depending on which sounds best, very interesting to me. Thanks for all the help dudes I am just getting into the high quality **** now and realize how much better it can really get.

post #78 of 148
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Originally Posted by classics View Post

Ok I will do that, sounds very complicated haha. I should beable to do it though but dont be surpised if you get a pm :) Im gonna have to delete my library and redownload than which isnt that big of a deal but are you sure I cant play Wave files on my ipod ? I converted the FLAC files i downloaded into Wave files using Winamp and that worked. I will download the apple lossless though or a differant file depending on which sounds best, very interesting to me. Thanks for all the help dudes I am just getting into the high quality **** now and realize how much better it can really get.

 

 

wav can be played on ipod, just doesnt display tags. apple lossless will sound as good as wav, period. there wont be any better sound file format because its already lossless. 

post #79 of 148
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Ok I probably wont redownload than because as I listen to the song ill just rename it on my ipod. Ill start downloading apple lossless from now on, thanks man. Haha I actually was able to find a lot more albums in apple lossless & was getting annoyed cuz I use pc and didnt think it would work lol.

post #80 of 148
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Originally Posted by Brooko View Post

 

Even if you upgrade, why would you have to rip your songs again?

 

Again - suggest do the test - and actually learn your own limits.

 

Use lossless for archive purposes (so you only have to rip once) - and also use for PC based listening (makes sense when space is not an issue)

 

Use lossy for portable based listening (ie transcode either separate copy - or transcode on the fly through iTunes).  That way you have more space - and you won't be able to tell the difference anyway.  Just set-up iTunes to transcode to aac256 automatically when transferring to the iPod.

 

EDIT - BTW transcoding is very simple.  Try dbpoweramp - can use multiple cores, and transcoding a full album takes well under a minute on my PC.

 

 

i dont use pc for listening to music, i use my dap. my player has more than enough memory space to store lossless anyway, and if you are concerned about memory, just use the flac level 8 or something to reduce file size. as for file format a/b testing, never did it but i can already assume the difference will not be too large. audio works as a chain but hardware particularly headphones should make the most difference. i have intentionally compared 10 bucks headphone/iem to 200 buck ones. even then, difference is not as large as people here describe it to be. i think usually differences in audio are quite subtle. a better test will be, try using a 10 bucks headphone/iem for a week (i never went through with a whole week though have done it in less time) and then at the end of the week, that headphone/iem doesnt sound too bad now, does it? tongue.gif


Edited by reddragon - 3/13/13 at 6:22pm
post #81 of 148
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Originally Posted by classics View Post

Ok I probably wont redownload than because as I listen to the song ill just rename it on my ipod. Ill start downloading apple lossless from now on, thanks man. Haha I actually was able to find a lot more albums in apple lossless & was getting annoyed cuz I use pc and didnt think it would work lol.

 

 

yes apple lossless is the solution lol

post #82 of 148
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Originally Posted by reddragon View Post

i dont use pc for listening to music, i use my dap. my player has more than enough memory space to store lossless anyway, and if you are concerned about memory, just use the flac level 8 or something to reduce file size. as for file format a/b testing, never did it but i can already assume the difference will not be too large. audio works as a chain but hardware particularly headphones should make the most difference. i have intentionally compared 10 bucks headphone/iem to 200 buck ones. even then, difference is not as large as people here describe it to be. i think usually differences in audio are quite subtle. a better test will be, try using a 10 bucks headphone/iem for a week (i never went through with a whole week though have done it in less time) and then at the end of the week, that headphone/iem doesnt sound too bad now, does it? tongue.gif

 

Agree with you on the level of differences in headphones (and hype on Head-Fi wink.gif- but if you ever get the chance, you should try a simple abx (using Foobar).  It's really enlightening, and it does make you think twice about immediately recommending lossless for a DAP.  I see you have a 160 Gb iPod classic.  Even with level 8, you're still going to get to eventually get to a stage where you have too many songs to fit comfortably (I'd already be over that limit).  When you realise that there isn't going to be an audible difference (ie human discernable) between aac256 and lossless, it kind of makes more sense then to recommend ripping to lossless (for archive), but using a good lossy format for your actual player.

 

Anyway - I'm taking this off topic, so I'll cease now.  I've already had a quick pm exchange with the OP, and have been thinking about writing a how-to for a while (setting up an abx with Foobar) - so it'll give me something to do this weekend :) 

post #83 of 148
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I think im going to go with the Mad Dogs. They just seem like they put a lot of time and effort to ensure an excellent sounding headphone. I mean there are literally houndreds of headphones to choose from in this price range with most of them being a well known brand name like pioneer, sony, bose, sennheiser, beyerdynamic ect. I like that Mad Dogs are a pretty small company and family owned. I just sent them an email asking about their headphones and I got an email back in 20 mins haha I mean come on thats customer service !!

post #84 of 148
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Originally Posted by classics View Post

I think im going to go with the Mad Dogs. They just seem like they put a lot of time and effort to ensure an excellent sounding headphone. I mean there are literally houndreds of headphones to choose from in this price range with most of them being a well known brand name like pioneer, sony, bose, sennheiser, beyerdynamic ect. I like that Mad Dogs are a pretty small company and family owned. I just sent them an email asking about their headphones and I got an email back in 20 mins haha I mean come on thats customer service !!


The Mad Dogs are great headphones! It would be a good choice, and they are well balanced headphones that sound great with a wide variety of genres. One thing I should point out about the Mad Dogs is that you will need an amp for them, especially if you listen at higher volumes, and if you want there full potential to be brought. The recommendation of a O2 amp from JDS is a good one, but I feel like it is too bulky for your purposes. I would get a C&C BH amp or even a E17. If you want to spend 200, there are plenty more choice. The new C5 from JDS sounds like something that would suit you well.

post #85 of 148
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Originally Posted by Greed View Post


The Mad Dogs are great headphones! It would be a good choice, and they are well balanced headphones that sound great with a wide variety of genres. One thing I should point out about the Mad Dogs is that you will need an amp for them, especially if you listen at higher volumes, and if you want there full potential to be brought. The recommendation of a O2 amp from JDS is a good one, but I feel like it is too bulky for your purposes. I would get a C&C BH amp or even a E17. If you want to spend 200, there are plenty more choice. The new C5 from JDS sounds like something that would suit you well.

Yeah I know im really hoping I dont regret choosing a headphone that requires and amp. On the other hand I just want the best quality I can get so I think that if it does get annoying maybe the sound quality will make up for it ! I think I will go with the C5 JDS amp like you mentioned, I dont wanna go cheap here and have to purchase a differant amp or headphone 6 months later.  Although I may get some He-400s just for home use, after I get these Mad dogs :) Would the C5 JDS amp power the He-400s ?

post #86 of 148
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Just noiced the C5 JDS is out of stock until April 15th which will be a problem for me. Anyone have another suggestion that will be of the same quality or better ??

post #87 of 148

I wouldn't say the Mad Dogs are portable.

post #88 of 148
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Originally Posted by classics View Post

Yeah I know im really hoping I dont regret choosing a headphone that requires and amp. On the other hand I just want the best quality I can get so I think that if it does get annoying maybe the sound quality will make up for it ! I think I will go with the C5 JDS amp like you mentioned, I dont wanna go cheap here and have to purchase a differant amp or headphone 6 months later.  Although I may get some He-400s just for home use, after I get these Mad dogs :) Would the C5 JDS amp power the He-400s ?

hey bro,

 

i think you might be getting kinda carried away by people's recommendations. yea, the mad dogs are supposed to be a great pair of headphones, but they don't really fit your original goal of a portable (non-amp required) headphones.

 

I think you should legit go and try the multitude of great closed portable headphones that don't need an amp, and if you think that there is still something missing & you can tell what change in sound signature you want in comparison to the headphones you tried, come back & research to see if Mad Dogs or whatever else fits that change.

 

I mean, what happens if you go to the store and find that you like the additional bass of something like the Ultrasone Pro 900 over the AKG K550?

post #89 of 148
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Originally Posted by wolfetan44 View Post

I wouldn't say the Mad Dogs are portable.

Probably not but im willing to sacrifice portability for quality. I will be listening to these in a private enviroment such as my house so probably wont regret it than but they will be used for travel, very little but nontheless still travel. Now I just talked to a dude at guitar center and he said they dont even carry any portable amps and he has never heard of any. Do headphone amps run off batterys ?

post #90 of 148
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Originally Posted by money4me247 View Post

hey bro,

 

i think you might be getting kinda carried away by people's recommendations. yea, the mad dogs are supposed to be a great pair of headphones, but they don't really fit your original goal of a portable (non-amp required) headphones.

 

I think you should legit go and try the multitude of great closed portable headphones that don't need an amp, and if you think that there is still something missing & you can tell what change in sound signature you want in comparison to the headphones you tried, come back & research to see if Mad Dogs or whatever else fits that change.

 

I mean, what happens if you go to the store and find that you like the additional bass of something like the Ultrasone Pro 900 over the AKG K550?

Yeah its hard to say. I know im getting carried away with recomendations but its really all I have to go by, I dont really have any stores nearby that carry any of these headphons. I went to best buy today and half their selection was Beats by Dre haha .

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