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post #151 of 177

Here is some info on the MX2, see the mini review of 6 portable cans in my signature below.

 

Anyone want to buy a mint pair of MX2s?

post #152 of 177
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Originally Posted by bixby View Post
 

Here is some info on the MX2, see the mini review of 6 portable cans in my signature below.

 

Anyone want to buy a mint pair of MX2s?

Pretty solid review. I agree, they are missing the extra clarity and detail of much more expensive cans, but there are much worse out there for $100 and under.

post #153 of 177

How much for the MX2s (PM me if you want)? Did you get a chance to compare them with the TH-02?

post #154 of 177

pm sent

post #155 of 177

With all the discussion of modding these CT-H02s, I'm surprised no one mentioned this:

 

The rear caps are easy to remove by prying them off, exposing the back of the driver and the wires.  So you want to be careful not to disturb these.  But try listening to them with the end cap off.  This turns them into semi-open cans, and the presentation changes accordingly, a bit more spacious.  Without any appreciable decrease in bass.  I prefer this presentation, but obviously don't want the "guts" to stay exposed to damage this way.

 

Turns out you can get the benefit by only snapping 2 of the 3 tabs of the rear caps back into place.  This creates a small gap between the cap and ear housing which is enough to create the extra spaciousness I prefer.  And it's reversable - just snap the third tab into place to get the stock configuration back.

 

MGbert

post #156 of 177

I found removing the rear piece of the cup helped relieve most of the TH02's midrange coloration. Very simple and effective.

post #157 of 177

These are now $18.62 (black) and $16.23 (white)!

 

Amazing headphones for the price. Simply lift the response around 4 kHz and hear the near-reference sound. I use the following EQ setting:

 

Center Frequency: 3,800 Hz

Gain: 5.0 dB

Q: 1.20

 

Center Frequency: 8,500 Hz

Gain: -2.0 dB

Q: 2.40


Edited by Jay_WJ - 2/24/14 at 5:43am
post #158 of 177

Guys, could you please tell me if you have tried these cans with classical music?

post #159 of 177
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Originally Posted by U6astik View Post

Guys, could you please tell me if you have tried these cans with classical music?

I've used them with my classical a bit. Decent separation and detail retrieval. Not the most refined bass or spacious soundstage.
post #160 of 177
I was searching for an inbetween headphone because my main cans broke. Just decided to randomly get these. Here is hoping they don't sound too bad!
post #161 of 177

Are there other pads (Shure/Beyerdynamic for example) that fit the Tascams? I mean, we know that HM5/ FA-003 pads work but could there be alternatives? 

post #162 of 177
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Originally Posted by PhoenixClaw View Post
 

Are there other pads (Shure/Beyerdynamic for example) that fit the Tascams? I mean, we know that HM5/ FA-003 pads work but could there be alternatives? 


I'd bet vital organs that CAL pads fit these.

post #163 of 177

Picked up a pair from B&H. Tested them out vs. Sony MDR-EX51 in-ear & Creative EP480 earbuds.

 

1) EP480 beats the TH02 for soundstage. Expansive on the EP480 - instruments positioned from left to right, each easily distinguishable and in clear positions. Voice is locked center, instruments play out pretty wide.

TH02 - muddled. Almost like listening to mono in comparison. Voices center, but forward enough so that it stands out before the music.

EX51 - between the two, but not much of a soundstage.

 

2) Voices.

TH02 does a very good job at bringing the female voice forward at the cost of the instruments and music in the background. EP480 doesn't do this as much, so your voice will be at a closer level in volume to the rest of the music.

EX51 is about regular, same as the EP480, not super-good at bringing the voice forwards, but doesn't bury it either. TH02 is super-smooth. Roughness in voices simply are gone - mellow.

EP480 is a touch light and airy on the voices. Less mids and lows, more highs. Far less smooth, more crisp - can be fatiguing over hours - more tightly strung.

EX51 is in between. Smooth, but not as much as the TH02. You can still pickup a bit of roughness here and there, but not as crisp as the EP480. Perhaps easier to listen for longer periods of time. 

 

3) Bass.

TH02 > Ex51 >> EP480 TH02 is a thump, not mind-numbing, but you'll know it's there and can feel it. Ex51 - always depends on ear fit, but can get up there to where you can sense a thump, but never like a close-ear pair of headphones thump. EP480 - it's an earbud, thus, auto-low-filter. Not going to feel the thumps at all.

 

4) highs and details EP480 > EX51 > TH02 You'll be hearing fingers on guitar strings far more clearly on the EP480 vs. the rest. Of course, that AT Hokkaido Wood OTH has even more detail, but to the point of annoyance, esp. in how that one renders voices.

TH02? Can't even hear the guitar strings clearly at all. Just gone, muddled.

EX51 - it's there, but due to the closed soundstage, it's much harder to pick out individual instruments and details.

 

5) Isolation. TH02/EX51 >> EP480 But, TH02 nor EX51 are noise cancellng, so you'll still hear people talking behind you and such. TH02 gets very warm fast, so ears get sweaty on hot days.

EX51 gets annoying, feels like something is trying to expand the ear canals after hours, and never feels good exercising long. EP480 - open earbud, no isolation.

 

6) Sensitivity/Power required TH02 > EX51 > EP480 Gotta turn up the volume a few more notches to get the TH02 to sound loud. Can't use it well at low, low volumes as well as the EP480/EX51 either. Just loses too much detail and you can't hear things well at the near-zero volume levels. Can still use the EP480/EX51 just before falling asleep at very low volumes and hear the music and voices more clearly.

 

Thus, in the end, TH02 goes back to the store right away. Not impressed at all, esp. for editing - can't hear the details like I can with the dirt-cheap EP480, so that's pretty bad. Yes, it's super-smooth and has bass, so good for listening to music and voices that could use the processing. But it's too smooth - to the point where raspy voices now become non-raspy. Not better than the EX51 for isolation, and because the EX51 is more comfy over the hours due to the light weight vs the hot and heavy TH02, not great in noisy environments vs a true noise cancelling headphone.

 

TH02 has it's niche - more modern, booming/drum heavy songs, voices that need smoothing, and you really don't want any raspiness or soundstage. On most of my ballads and jazz, it's too harsh, oddly. Highs aren't as smooth as with the EX51, and just lacks that something that makes the mellow songs mellow.

 

Also, the earpads are very small and depth isn't enough for my ears - doesn't even cover my ears properly. I have to squeeze them using my hands to get a nice fit. Quite odd since other ~$20 range headphones have larger pads. Shallow depth, so your ears will hurt like mine after awhile with the inner cups pressing on them. The make of the pads is also poor - the material used isn't leather, and easily pits/tears/gets scratched. Quite sad since it took years for a similarly priced Aiwa closed ear to fall apart.


Edited by adorable - 4/25/14 at 1:47pm
post #164 of 177

Anyone want to buy a mint MX2 PM me.  


Edited by Hawaiiancerveza - 4/30/14 at 5:35pm
post #165 of 177
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Originally Posted by Sonichedgehog360 View Post

 

Now, after a bit of time and switching between headphones, the Superlux sounds a bit lifeless in comparison. Granted, the Superlux still has a bunch of energy and does great in the treble and very well in the midrange. It just lacks some heft and authority to be convincing. Yes, I like the Tascam MUCH more! :) And Tascam's treble problem has almost entirely disappeared after some mental or mechanical burn-in because everything sounds just so good now! Hall ambience and clarity is actually well weaved and more natural and, surprisingly, there is more detail, more than even the Superlux--just wow! 

 

The Tascam has more detail than Superlux 681?  That sounds like very high praise for the Tascam.  How would you say the soundstages compare?  

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