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Would it power HE-500 adequately? For reference, the O2 definitely doesn't, Schiit Magni does.
post #62 of 373
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Would it power HE-500 adequately? For reference, the O2 definitely doesn't, Schiit Magni does.

It powered my HE-4.  Don't know about the HE-500.

post #63 of 373

Hi,
 

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Would it power HE-500 adequately? For reference, the O2 definitely doesn't, Schiit Magni does.


I don't have the faintest what you call adequately.

I had the HE-500 in my grubby mitts for a while and for me the iCAN powered the HE-500 very well.

Excellent sounding headphones the HE-500, shame about the wearing comfort though (least comfortable to wear phones ever to me) and the build standards at least on the sample I had:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/648968/a-headphone-shootout-from-a-speaker-listener-testing-eight-headphones-from-80-to-1-200#post_9114857

 

You don't say which model O2 mobile you have, but forget driving the HE-500 from a mobile, it is pretty hopeless, no matter what model.

Cheerio Rich


Edited by bedlam inside - 4/1/13 at 4:32am
post #64 of 373
The JDS O2, not necessarily mobile. I used it with AC power as a desktop amp only.
post #65 of 373

Hi,

 

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Originally Posted by disastermouse View Post

The JDS O2, not necessarily mobile. I used it with AC power as a desktop amp only.


Sorry, O2 is an Amp? In England it is a mobile network...

Never heard of the Amp.

Cheerio Rich

post #66 of 373
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I just got a pair of Fischer FA-003 Ti headphones. My first impression is that they are a fairly warm headphone like the HD650s. They match up well with the iCAN amp, although there is not a lot of need for the X-bass boost as they have plenty of bass. I also find that the 3D effect is very subtle on these cans. They seem to have a nice wide soundstage to start with, so switching on the 3D effect does not make as dramatic a change in the sound. But that can be nice as overall these seem like very non-fatiguing headphones that you could listen to for hours. They are brand new so I do not know yet how the sound might change after some breaking in.

 

I must add though that they do not sound as good as the Sennheiser HD650 in my setup. There is something special about the combination of the HD650 and the iCAN amp. It seems like the bass boost fills in just where the Senns tend to have a bit of roll off, and then the 3D adds just the right amount of detail and spaciousness. Especially after trying a different headphone, I am sometimes in awe of how good this setup with the HD650 sounds.

post #67 of 373

Thanks for the update Nirmalanow!  Coincidentally, I have the HD650's but have been shopping for a super comfortable closed can to use at work, with the Fischer FA-003 Ti being at, or near the top of the list.  Would love to hear more impressions as it settles in.

 

It seems like both headphone, and amp designers have all jumped on the More Bass bandwagon. In shopping for full size closed headphones recently, nearly all of them seem to have elevated bass levels from what I have read; which means, ironically, what we really need in an amp design these days is a way to turn down the bass. If only audiophiles hadn't chased away all of the bass and treble control knobs from audio gear.
 

post #68 of 373
Hi all, I've been reading this thread several times the last couple of weeks and I'm ready to pull the trigger. But first let me state where I'm coming from. My playback devices are the iPod Classic and the iPhones 4S and 5. At the moment, I use the line out to connect to an HRT iStreamer and use the iStreamer's RCA Out into my various (portable) headphone amps. It is now ever so tempting to use the iStreamer's RCA Out into the iCan's RCA In. So so tempting. I also read with interest the AR TDS202 "gizmo" and for USD30, I ordered it from Amazon in a blink. I presume (Nirmalanow?) that the TDS 202 just goes in between the iStreamer and the iCan? Could you, or anyone else for that matter, confirm this? Thanks. And though I'm considering the iCan, a major retailer here in Singapore is offering a free ATH M50 with the purchase of the iDac/iUSB combo. Temptations never cease.
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Hi all, I've been reading this thread several times the last couple of weeks and I'm ready to pull the trigger. But first let me state where I'm coming from. My playback devices are the iPod Classic and the iPhones 4S and 5. At the moment, I use the line out to connect to an HRT iStreamer and use the iStreamer's RCA Out into my various (portable) headphone amps. It is now ever so tempting to use the iStreamer's RCA Out into the iCan's RCA In. So so tempting. I also read with interest the AR TDS202 "gizmo" and for USD30, I ordered it from Amazon in a blink. I presume (Nirmalanow?) that the TDS 202 just goes in between the iStreamer and the iCan? Could you, or anyone else for that matter, confirm this? Thanks. And though I'm considering the iCan, a major retailer here in Singapore is offering a free ATH M50 with the purchase of the iDac/iUSB combo. Temptations never cease.


That sounds like a great setup, and since the iStreamer is not portable, you can definitely use a stationary amp like the iCAN. And yes, the TDS would go between your source (iStreamer) and your amp. It brings out the low level details in the sound. Unfortunately, it also boosts any hiss or other low level noise, so it may or may not work for you. I noticed that Mike on Headphonia felt the sound improved with the iStreamer when he powered it with the King Rex U Power battery, which might help lower any noise in the system. Some people will like the TDS effect and others will not, but for $30 it is a fun experiment.

 

What headphones are you using? And of course you could get the whole stack of iDAC, iUSB and iCAN if your budget allows :)

post #70 of 373
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That sounds like a great setup, and since the iStreamer is not portable, you can definitely use a stationary amp like the iCAN. And yes, the TDS would go between your source (iStreamer) and your amp. It brings out the low level details in the sound. Unfortunately, it also boosts any hiss or other low level noise, so it may or may not work for you. I noticed that Mike on Headphonia felt the sound improved with the iStreamer when he powered it with the King Rex U Power battery, which might help lower any noise in the system. Some people will like the TDS effect and others will not, but for $30 it is a fun experiment.

What headphones are you using? And of course you could get the whole stack of iDAC, iUSB and iCAN if your budget allows smily_headphones1.gif
Hi and thanks for the prompt reply.

Yes I'll have to see if the TDS is suitable or not but as you say it's a fun experiment for USD30.

Indeed one could use battery power for the iStreamer but I chose not to for the reason that this setup is an in-betweener. If I wish to listen from my iMac I have a desktop ADL GT40 and a Audioengine D1 and A2. When I want to be portable I already have too many portable amps. So the iStreamer is for when I'm not sitting at my iMac and still want a good DAC. The iCan caught my eye (and your posts tempted me) as I sometimes feel that my portable amps (cMoyBB 2.3, PA2V2, e11, Arrow 4G) could do with a bit more power.

Headphones are HD650, SR325iS, DT880/250 ohms, Denon D2000, DT770LE to name a few.

Thanks again.
post #71 of 373
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Hi and thanks for the prompt reply.

Yes I'll have to see if the TDS is suitable or not but as you say it's a fun experiment for USD30.

Indeed one could use battery power for the iStreamer but I chose not to for the reason that this setup is an in-betweener. If I wish to listen from my iMac I have a desktop ADL GT40 and a Audioengine D1 and A2. When I want to be portable I already have too many portable amps. So the iStreamer is for when I'm not sitting at my iMac and still want a good DAC. The iCan caught my eye (and your posts tempted me) as I sometimes feel that my portable amps (cMoyBB 2.3, PA2V2, e11, Arrow 4G) could do with a bit more power.

Headphones are HD650, SR325iS, DT880/250 ohms, Denon D2000, DT770LE to name a few.

Thanks again.

Oh and iCannot justify an iDac and an iUSB as well for the full combo. But one never says never with this hobby.
post #72 of 373
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Originally Posted by georgelai57 View Post


Hi and thanks for the prompt reply.

Yes I'll have to see if the TDS is suitable or not but as you say it's a fun experiment for USD30.

Indeed one could use battery power for the iStreamer but I chose not to for the reason that this setup is an in-betweener. If I wish to listen from my iMac I have a desktop ADL GT40 and a Audioengine D1 and A2. When I want to be portable I already have too many portable amps. So the iStreamer is for when I'm not sitting at my iMac and still want a good DAC. The iCan caught my eye (and your posts tempted me) as I sometimes feel that my portable amps (cMoyBB 2.3, PA2V2, e11, Arrow 4G) could do with a bit more power.

Headphones are HD650, SR325iS, DT880/250 ohms, Denon D2000, DT770LE to name a few.

Thanks again.


I am guessing you will really like the iCAN with the HD650. I am blown away by this combo, and the HD650 can keep up with the added detail of the TDS and the 3D on the iCAN, as well as benefit from the X-bass on the iCAN.

post #73 of 373
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Originally Posted by runswithaliens View Post

Thanks for the update Nirmalanow!  Coincidentally, I have the HD650's but have been shopping for a super comfortable closed can to use at work, with the Fischer FA-003 Ti being at, or near the top of the list.  Would love to hear more impressions as it settles in.

 

It seems like both headphone, and amp designers have all jumped on the More Bass bandwagon. In shopping for full size closed headphones recently, nearly all of them seem to have elevated bass levels from what I have read; which means, ironically, what we really need in an amp design these days is a way to turn down the bass. If only audiophiles hadn't chased away all of the bass and treble control knobs from audio gear.
 


Right now I am burning in the fischers 24 hours a day on the Isotek CD. Unfortunately, the sound seemed to get kind of harsh after just a few hours of use, so I am hoping it is just an artifact of the burn-in process and that they come around again after some more hours.

post #74 of 373
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Right now I am burning in the fischers 24 hours a day on the Isotek CD. Unfortunately, the sound seemed to get kind of harsh after just a few hours of use, so I am hoping it is just an artifact of the burn-in process and that they come around again after some more hours.


After two more full days of burning in the Fischer's are sounding good again. I will run them for a few more days to see if they have settled down, and then post any more conclusive impressions.

post #75 of 373
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Originally Posted by runswithaliens View Post

Thanks for the update Nirmalanow!  Coincidentally, I have the HD650's but have been shopping for a super comfortable closed can to use at work, with the Fischer FA-003 Ti being at, or near the top of the list.  Would love to hear more impressions as it settles in.

 

It seems like both headphone, and amp designers have all jumped on the More Bass bandwagon. In shopping for full size closed headphones recently, nearly all of them seem to have elevated bass levels from what I have read; which means, ironically, what we really need in an amp design these days is a way to turn down the bass. If only audiophiles hadn't chased away all of the bass and treble control knobs from audio gear.
 


Well I have had enough time with the Fischers. After breaking them in, they are back to being a warm and non-fatiguing sound that is easy to live with. However, they are not detailed enough for my taste, so I am putting them up for sale on here. I am a bit spoiled by the synergy of the HD650 with the iCAN and so I am just going to keep those.

 

I will add that the Fischers are very comfortable and isolate very well, so on those scores they do very well.


Edited by Nirmalanow - 4/7/13 at 7:57pm
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