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Here are the gain switches:

 

 

post #167 of 374
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Here are the gain switches:



Thanks for the photo. I'm surprised iFi's website doesn't even show this.

The iCan was only launched here in Singapore two months ago and already I have an old product. Sigh.
post #168 of 374
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Originally Posted by chicolom View Post

Here are the gain switches:


Thanks for the photo. I'm surprised iFi's website doesn't even show this.

The iCan was only launched here in Singapore two months ago and already I have an old product. Sigh.

Early adopter here, no gain switches, rats!

post #169 of 374

Hi,

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Here are the gain switches:

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

 

 

 


Hmmm, I wonder what problem they are trying to solve by adding these switches?

I cannot believe these extra switches improve sound quality. Neither Rega or Naim go in for this kind of thing!

For the record, with all the headphones I tested so far I found I could easily set the volume I wanted with the standard version (no gain switches).

Maybe they are pandering to some reviewers who have been griping about too much gain for their expensive earplugs (I hate earplugs)?

Who knows, maybe us early adopters should be happy to have a headamp not compromised by gain switches and smugly feel superior to those who own the new version?

Cheerio Rich

post #170 of 374

One of my cans is the DT660's which are very efficient.  I couldn't get past 9 o'clock and the volume knob was very tricky to get just the right volume.  The slightest touch and the cans were either too soft or too loud.  It's fortunate that it is not my main go-to phone.  

 

Headphones, not to mention speakers, can be a crap shoot as far as sensitivity goes.  I think more choices, in this case, are good.  Too bad I don't have them.

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Hmmm, I wonder what problem they are trying to solve by adding these switches?


I cannot believe these extra switches improve sound quality.

 

Uh....the point of gain switches is to allow a greater and easier range of volume control with a variety of headphones, specifically high sensitivity headphones and IEMs that get loud to quickly on the volume pot.  iFi keeps saying that "everyone has different headphones" and they want an amp that will let you you realize "that full potential of each and every headphone", so gain switches make perfect sense if they want to make a "one-box-fits-all-headphones" amp.

 

It has nothing to do with trying to improve sound quality.

 

 

Most amps have low and high gain switches, so I don't see how it's pandering.   0_o


Edited by chicolom - 5/28/13 at 12:19pm
post #172 of 374
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Originally Posted by bedlam inside View Post

Hmmm, I wonder what problem they are trying to solve by adding these switches?


I cannot believe these extra switches improve sound quality.

 

Uh....the point of gain switches is to allow a greater and easier range of volume control with a variety of headphones, specifically high sensitivity headphones and IEMs that get loud to quickly on the volume pot.  iFi keeps saying that "everyone has different headphones" and they want an amp that will let you you realize "that full potential of each and every headphone", so gain switches make perfect sense if they want to make a "one-box-fits-all-headphones" amp.

 

It has nothing to do with trying to improve sound quality.

 

 

Most amps have low and high gain switches, so I don't see how it's pandering.   0_o

Thank you.  You said it better.

post #173 of 374

iFi seems to have updated the iCan page with pictures of the gain switches.

 

 

post #174 of 374

Great review very detailed..

 

i am however a bit concerned because i want to get the Beyerdynamic T5p 32ohm closed headphones. This is my first high-end headphone..

 

i wanted to start of with a closed pair so i could do my listening at any time of the day.

 

does the Beyerdynamic really sound so analytical harsh not warm at all ?

perhaps it would pair better with something like the Fiio E17.

i googled "objective review FiiO E7 USB DAC & Amp " and got a great review technical testing and measuring that shows it to be a good amp ..

 

But after reading a review on headfi about this amp sounding like the O2 i was impressed..

The price is way more expensive and if i want to be a bit mobile at home even i need a battery.

or stay near an outlet … 

 

what would you advice ?

 

 

Forget / cancel the T5 ..and go open with the HD600 and iamp/idac/battery?

pfff i don't now any more ..

post #175 of 374

With all the switches off, how does this compare with the old Original Master?

post #176 of 374
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Here are the gain switches:

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


Nice to see iFi-audio listening to feedback about the gain. Though it still makes me wonder who is responsible for the switch design. Unless there's some technical consideration I'm not aware of, it looks like two dip switches would've suffice. The only plausible reason I can think of is that multiple dip switches reduce the chances of accidentally increasing the gain to eardrum-shattering levels. But then again, it may be for the same reason (whatever that may be) as the inconsistency on the Xbass and 3D in switch position and setting levels; speaking of which, I'm hoping a future revision would make the two options consistent.

This amp looks very interesting both in price-to-performance ratio and its sound options. The latter seem nice when you'd want to have some fun during listening... and maybe even for gaming as well. I'm thinking of picking this up, or at least planning to at some point since I have other potential purchases (mostly gaming gear and art supplies) vying to have their way with my wallet.
post #177 of 374
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This amp looks very interesting both in price-to-performance ratio and its sound options. The latter seem nice when you'd want to have some fun during listening... and maybe even for gaming as well.

 

 

It works pretty well for gaming.  The bass boost switches are effective and increase the "fun". 

 

I've tried stacking the "3D" switch on-top of a Dolby Headphone signal, and while they sound interesting together it doesn't seem improve the imaging or soundstage.

post #178 of 374
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Early adopter here, no gain switches, rats!


I just read that you can send in your iCAN and have it upgraded to the newer version with gain switches for $50 plus shipping. I guess you contact the seller where you bought the iCAN. Fortunately, the gain works fine with my HD650s so I will probably not bother to upgrade.

post #179 of 374
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Originally Posted by bbophead View Post

Early adopter here, no gain switches, rats!


I just read that you can send in your iCAN and have it upgraded to the newer version with gain switches for $50 plus shipping. I guess you contact the seller where you bought the iCAN. Fortunately, the gain works fine with my HD650s so I will probably not bother to upgrade.

Thanks for the info.  Where did you read this?

 

I need less gain with Grado and 32 ohm Beyers.

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Thanks for the info.  Where did you read this?

 

I need less gain with Grado and 32 ohm Beyers.


Scroll down to the update at the end of this review: http://www.head-fi.org/products/ifi-ican-headphone-amplifier/reviews/9065

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