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post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 

I'm a bit lost here after long day searching for a great headset that can create a rich convenient stunning environment for gaming, listening to music and watching movies
 
I am a beginner regarding sounds/professional headsets so before anything sorry if my questions were too dumb. I'm looking for:
 
-  7.1 real surround headset.
- can be used for PC, PS3 and Mobile.
- comfortable and soft on ears.
- isolated (I don't want anybody nearby hear anything).
 
Only those specs no need for more features or anything else that will make the price +150$. Nevertheless, it would be great if it has two additional features : 
 
- It's not USB powered.
- Audio boost, whether from the pc or from outside.
 
I just figured out that my laptop sound card is not 7.1 it is 5.1, so I searched a lot for a solution. That was an external 7.1 sound card I found those: 
 
 
because it's ability cost-wise but I disappointed that it is only USB powered. Because of that I can't use it 
on mobile or PS3 but I found these http://store.gameshark.com/viewItem.asp?idProduct=5557&idCategory=322&scid=trittonsite and my question if it can do the job for me (for non Tritton headsets) ? if yes, May you help me find anything like this adapter cable ?
 
If I get one of the sound card boxes above can I use Gamcom 780 on mobile (with the adapter cable) and on PS3 ? How exactly could I benefit from the external sound card box other than create 7.1 ? Can I use the external sound card with every headset and sound system ?
 
Lastly, I'm worry if those external sound cards are poor because of the price comparing to the professional internal sound cards 
 
 
I'm looking for a price between 30$ - 80$ (if there's no such a headphone which I specified above or there is far better one closer to that range, raise it to 130$)
 
Kind regards
post #2 of 12
Thread Starter 

I forgot something important the headset has to be wired!

 

Well, here what I found interesting:

 

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-7-1-Channel-Surround-Sound-Headset/dp/B001O5CCQK/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1362343319&sr=1-1&keywords=logitech+g35

 

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Turtle-Beach-Force-Gaming-Headset/dp/B001BS4YAM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1303115114&sr=8-1&tag=vglnk-uk-c30-21

 

http://www.amazon.com/Force-Headset-Channel-Surround-Playstation-3/dp/B0042Y2F76/ref=pd_sim_vg_1

 

http://www.amazon.com/Turtle-Surround-Headset-PlayStation-3-6306200/dp/B006W41X2C

 

^

Are last two + Turtle Beach DX12 real 7.1 surround ? 

 

..

 

If I get this:  http://www.amazon.com/TRITTON-Surround-Headset-Xbox-360-6304300/dp/B008KH7NZA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1362333909&sr=8-2&keywords=tritton+x+pro

Can I use by anyway on mobile/portable devices ? 

 

Thanks a lot


Edited by Mosabexo - 3/3/13 at 5:02pm
post #3 of 12

I don't know a lot about headsets, but music is recorded in stereo.
Any 'surround sound' 7.1 filters applied to your music will only change (and possible ruin) the sound. 

 

I have however heard Turtle beach headsets, and find them to be massively over priced for the sound quality you get.

post #4 of 12
Thread Starter 
Quote:
I don't know a lot about headsets, but music is recorded in stereo.
Any 'surround sound' 7.1 filters applied to your music will only change (and possible ruin) the sound.

That's a valuable information mate! But, do they, 7.1 headsets, only have 7.1 channel ? I mean maybe there is a stereo channel

okay if there is one will quality be excellent  ?

 

Do you recommend to buy a stereo headphone for music and a separate true 7.1 headset for gaming/movies ?

 

 

Quote:

I have however heard Turtle beach headsets, and find them to be massively over priced for the sound quality you get.

In games or music, or both you mean ?

 

Thank a lot Creq :)


Edited by Mosabexo - 3/4/13 at 6:58am
post #5 of 12
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Originally Posted by Mosabexo View Post

 do they, 7.1 headsets, only have 7.1 channel ? I mean maybe there is a stereo channel

I think this is mostly controlled by your PC sound card. I think the software usually just defaults to stereo output for music when it's being played, but that's something you can usually customise 

 

 


Quote:

 

In games or music, or both you mean ?

 

The sound you experience from gaming is largely subjective, as for most people the listening part becomes more passive, while the visual experience is the most active. 

When gaming, you should find these type of headsets to be more than adequate, but for critical music listening you might find yourself disappointed. But if you've got nothing to compare them to, you'll probably really like them. 

If let's say you've got a small arsenal of high quality headphones for comparison, you'll probably hate them. It's always relative.

post #6 of 12
Thread Starter 
Quote:

I think this is mostly controlled by your PC sound card. I think the software usually just defaults to stereo output for music when it's being played, but that's something you can usually customise

 

What if I use some of the external sound cards that I mentioned above :

 

 

 

+ an important Q if you have experience a gaming headphone on stereo channel does it give you an excellent quality comparing to stereo specified headphones ?

 

Thanks again ^^
 

post #7 of 12
Honestly, my favorite PC gaming headphones are my HD650 running from my Mac/PC music setup. Surround effects like 5.1 and 7.1 are poorly translated to headphones and cause a great deal of distortion but you'd be surprised how much sound location gets through in a stereo headset. When I play Skyrim on Steam, I do it almost exclusively on headphones because so many of the sonic subtleties get through that I don't hear when playing with speakers or a 5.1 system on my PS3 or Xbox.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that headphone gaming imparts a serious sense of immersion with hi-fi headphones regardless of a lack of multichannel capabilities and is rewarding in its own way. I don't think that you can find the ideally perfect gaming and music headphones in the same setup but I do think that hi-fi STEREO setups get closer to that ideal of 'do everything' headphones than gaming headphones do. I'm also as frustrated as you may be at the lack of headsets that are high quality AND wired AND compatible with PC, PS3, AND Xbox.
post #8 of 12
Thread Starter 

I'm really thankful disastermouse your thought is much helpful for me

 

Well, day after day I'm more disappointed and confused. The fact that I don't have 7.1 sound card and the difficulty to be sure that external 7.1 card can give you high quality. Also, the setup of music specified ones (stereo) and the surround system. The best I end up thinking about is to have a high quality stereo headphone as you suggested or take http://www.amazon.com/Plantronics-GameCom-777-Surround-Technology/dp/B001KURYAS which is only 5.1 and has stereo channel. The problem with the first option is that they are expensive

 

Your HD650 is great but it is too expensive for me. So with your experience May you give me a recommendation for a great high quality stereo headphone between 30$ - 140$ ?

 

 

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I'm also as frustrated as you may be at the lack of headsets that are high quality AND wired AND compatible with PC, PS3, AND Xbox.

That's very frustrating and even with those available for PC,PS3 and X360 I doubt if they work really high on them all !!

post #9 of 12

For that budget for a stereo headphone (not headset) you could look into Superlux.

They've got a range of AKG K240 clones (some with more bass, some with less bass) and more sensitivity (so they don't require amping).

Due to their large size and construction they should be up there with the most comfortable headphone for long gaming sessions. 

 

Also you could look into AKG K240 MKII, AKG K271 MKII (closed back)

 

I usually game with my vintage AKG K241 or my vintage Beyerdynamic DT990 - but they both require amping.

 

I can't think of any others right now. I chose these specifically for their more expansive soundstage. 

post #10 of 12

Heya,

 

5.1 and 7.1 channels refer to 5 and 7 channels respectively with an LFE output for a subwoofer. That requires a minimum of 6 and 8 individual speakers.

 

This does not exist in a headphone. Headphones have 2 speakers.

 

The surround 5.1/7.1 that they are advertising is simply software emulation. It doesn't matter what headphone or headset you use. The surround is emulated by software.

 

They falsely advertise and way over use the terms 5.1/7.1 with gaming head sets and sound cards and all that over priced "gamer" market junk.

 

You're also not going to find much that will work for PC, PS3 and your phone that isn't just limited to two of those (mostly due to interface virtually ALL being USB now).

 

I think you should do a lot more research on what it is you're actually looking to experience.

 

Very best,

post #11 of 12

If you want an immersive soundstage , get an open headphone.

I'm not fond of the hd595 sound, but at least for gaming this is enjoyable (quite comfy, and immersive again).

I guess it would the same for the more recent/expensive 598, or the lower model the hd558.

Ideally, I 'd take at least the hd600, who has better built quality, and would last more that cheaper models that suffers from cracks.

I don't know for other brands, but for soundstage, you usually think first of sennheiser.

 

Buy a cheap fiio e10, if your source sucks, and don't want  to spend much on it.

post #12 of 12
Thread Starter 
I really can't thank you enough guys . From deep of my heart I'm very grateful to you all

After lots of searching I've decided to take Superlux 668B along with FiiO E07K

It's great to see how you guys so passionate and I'll share with you that passion after I take the very first steps with 668B. I'm planning also to get Grado 60i and/or Fostex T50RP in near future. Any suggestion to a beginner ?

Deepest thanks again smily_headphones1.gif
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