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post #16 of 28
Maybe this will help everyone:
http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Lossless_comparison

If everyone needs to just hear me say that WMA-L will kick your dog and run off with your daughter, I can do that too. rolleyes.gif
post #17 of 28
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Originally Posted by obobskivich View Post


Cowon
Toshiba
Sony NWZ-A and S series (if not others) [and in the original post, a Sony player was mentioned]
B&O Serenata
Windows Mobile phones (which is a relatively large # of devices)
etc

A large number of "Windows Media Plays For Sure" devices will also support it, like the Xbox and Squeezebox. Not to mention native support in newer versions of Windows Media Player (which *ahem* is installed on something like 70% of all computers). Very broad support base overall, assuming you're using a Windows platform or have a mobile device that's designed for such. For Apple, as mentioned, ALAC is the better choice. flac will almost always require third-party software (for example, it's supported on Windows Mobile, with a separate decoder (similar to how there's a Vorbis plug-in for WMP)). For at-home use it really doesn't matter what you pick, as they're all lossless - my inclination is towards WMA-L because basically any modern Windows PC will read it out of the box, but flac, ALAC, or even raw wav, are all fine as long as you have the space and appropriate software package.

For portable players is where it gets more complicated - if you have a player that supports a given lossless format, that's basically what you use (if you absolutely just have to have lossless), otherwise stick to WMA or mp3 and be finished with it.

Well, I just converted a FLAC album to WMA lossless, and confirmed that it will indeed play on a Cowon player....never would have guessed that one. I guess you learn something every day! 

 

I see from that chart  that there is no ReplayGain support though.....that's no good.


Edited by Achmedisdead - 3/6/13 at 6:24am
post #18 of 28

Cowons seem to have great compatibility with everything. The only thing I had trouble on it with was an album in some kind of funky DRM laced ALAC file.

 

WMA-L is still closed source? Ouch... No wonder it's so hard to find something that plays it on a Linux platform.

post #19 of 28
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Originally Posted by chewy4 View Post

Cowons seem to have great compatibility with everything. The only thing I had trouble on it with was an album in some kind of funky DRM laced ALAC file.

WMA-L is still closed source? Ouch... No wonder it's so hard to find something that plays it on a Linux platform.

libav and ffmpeg claim support for it. It's also supported in QT, with plug-ins (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-media-components-quicktime). And on Windows platforms with WMP 9 Series or higher.

What else do you want it to run on?
post #20 of 28

I don't recall it working on Rhythmbox which was my media player of choice for Linux. I remember having trouble with a couple of others too but I can't remember what they are.

 

But the ffmpeg and libav support is relatively new(as of last year) so that has probably changed. It's only for 16 bit though(not that I care, but some crazy people do).

post #21 of 28

If storage space isn't an issue I'd go with WAV, hands down.

post #22 of 28
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If storage space isn't an issue I'd go with WAV, hands down.

Why? At least FLAC and ALAC allow tagging......IIRC WAV doesn't.

post #23 of 28
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Originally Posted by Achmedisdead View Post

Why? At least FLAC and ALAC allow tagging......IIRC WAV doesn't.
This.
post #24 of 28
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Originally Posted by Achmedisdead View Post

Why? At least FLAC and ALAC allow tagging......IIRC WAV doesn't.

It doesn't do tags, yes, but if you make your own play lists and rip your CDs to have the file "artist - album - track number - song title" it wouldn't be that big of a problem. And, everything supports WAV.

post #25 of 28
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Originally Posted by J.Pocalypse View Post

It doesn't do tags, yes, but if you make your own play lists and rip your CDs to have the file "artist - album - track number - song title" it wouldn't be that big of a problem. And, everything supports WAV.
Why do you like WAV over FLAC/ALAC?
post #26 of 28

I didn't say I liked it. The title of the thread is "What's The BEST Universal Lossless Codec Would You Suggest?". I picked WAV because 1.) It's lossless 2. ) Every media player, software or hardware based, supports it. FLAC is my personal codec of choice, but, out of the box, Apple don't conveniently support it. So, there's a strike against it, for the purpose of this thread.

post #27 of 28

Calling wav lossless is a bit of a misnomer. Lossless refers to lossless compression and it's not compressed.

 

But yeah everything does support it. It wouldn't make sense for a device not to support it, it's just PCM data with a wrapper. So for those that have some combination of devices that no lossless codec is fully compatible, it's really the only option without turning to lossy files. But I'd personally take 320kbps MP3s over uncompressed files with no tags. I need my tags.

post #28 of 28

Agreed @ 320 + tags.beerchug.gif

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