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Ture dat biggrin.gif, can't wait to get them because I am also a sony fanboy smily_headphones1.gif
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SONY FANBOY +1

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Love my sony z android player , sony s series mp3 biggrin.gif and xba-3,xb90ex ,mdr-ex600.
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i got brainwashed by Sony's design since i was a little boy..biggrin.gif

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Lol me too. biggrin.gif
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Anyone try the 30s 40s with the new FiiO E12?

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Also if anyone is still on the fence about the xba40s, there is someone selling theirs for $189 starting on eBay
Edited by canikickit1 - 3/23/13 at 2:52pm
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Also if anyone is still on the fence about the xba40s, there is someone selling theirs for $189 starting on eBay

Mind if I ask out of the two top xba iems, which one provides better timbre?

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Mind if I ask out of the two top xba iems, which one provides better timbre?

Out of the XBA-40s and the XBA-30s, I would say they are evenly matched in regards to timbre. However, the wider soundstage of the 40s help to promote the effect a bit than the 30s.

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XBA-40 arrived from Japan today... First impressions are fairly mixed to be honest. It don´t like how it sounds out of my iPod Nano at all. Darkest IEM I´ve ever heard and it lacks the BA-drivers usual speed. Bass isn´t that special either. The IE800 eats it for breakfast in bass control, depth, impact and quantity. Out of the iPod, the Sony MDR-7550 smokes it in every way possible except noise isolation. It has very good instrument separation, soundstage and imaging though. Overall I´m not very impressed though, but I haven´t listened to these much yet. I´ve never heard the XBA-4 so I can´t compare to them. There´s no metalic sound in the highs though - something I´ve read the XBA-4 should do.

 

Around 5 minutes ago I started testing them out of the Meier PCStep and the bass seems tighter and the highs seem to go higher too. Sounds like an impedance mismatch: the iPod Nano 7G´s ~1.5 doesn´t seem to be good enough? These are very early impressions of course, but connected to the PCStep I am starting to feel more positive towards these. I´m even hearing some nice soundstage tricks IEMs can´t usually do now. The warnings about it being source dependent are 100% true. Don´t use these out of a normal DAP. Currently it looks like these might be going for sale, but I´ll wait until my O2/ODAC arrives.

 

Oh and do not pair these with anything warm. The most analytic, clinical and brightest source possible is what these will sound the best with if you ask me.


Edited by vrln - 3/28/13 at 10:54am
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XBA-40 arrived from Japan today... First impressions are fairly mixed to be honest. It don´t like how it sounds out of my iPod Nano at all. Darkest IEM I´ve ever heard and it lacks the BA-drivers usual speed. Bass isn´t that special either. The IE800 eats it for breakfast in bass control, depth, impact and quantity. Out of the iPod, the Sony MDR-7550 smokes it in every way possible except noise isolation. It has very good instrument separation, soundstage and imaging though. Overall I´m not very impressed though, but I haven´t listened to these much yet. I´ve never heard the XBA-4 so I can´t compare to them. There´s no metalic sound in the highs though - something I´ve read the XBA-4 should do.

 

Around 5 minutes ago I started testing them out of the Meier PCStep and the bass seems tighter and the highs seem to go higher too. Sounds like an impedance mismatch: the iPod Nano 7G´s ~1.5 doesn´t seem to be good enough? These are very early impressions of course, but connected to the PCStep I am starting to feel more positive towards these. I´m even hearing some nice soundstage tricks IEMs can´t usually do now. The warnings about it being source dependent are 100% true. Don´t use these out of a normal DAP. Currently it looks like these might be going for sale, but I´ll wait until my O2/ODAC arrives.

 

Oh and do not pair these with anything warm. The most analytic, clinical and brightest source possible is what these will sound the best with if you ask me.

. The 8ohm impedance of the 40s makes them a pretty different sounding IEM depending on what DAP/AMP you pair them with. When paired with the C&C BH, the clarity and detail shine, but at the expense of bass impact slight. Vice versa for the E11 (The E11 FiiO Amp has a zout of <0.3ohms) , the mids are mellowed, almost U-Shaped, but the bass and seamless soundstage are pretty amazing. I wonder how they would sound with the E12... YMMV beyersmile.png


Edited by canikickit1 - 3/28/13 at 5:00pm
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I wonder how they would sound with the E12... YMMV beyersmile.png

 

Send 'em over. I'll let you know. smile.gif

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XBA-40 arrived from Japan today... First impressions are fairly mixed to be honest. It don´t like how it sounds out of my iPod Nano at all. Darkest IEM I´ve ever heard and it lacks the BA-drivers usual speed. Bass isn´t that special either. The IE800 eats it for breakfast in bass control, depth, impact and quantity. Out of the iPod, the Sony MDR-7550 smokes it in every way possible except noise isolation. It has very good instrument separation, soundstage and imaging though. Overall I´m not very impressed though, but I haven´t listened to these much yet. I´ve never heard the XBA-4 so I can´t compare to them. There´s no metalic sound in the highs though - something I´ve read the XBA-4 should do.

 

Around 5 minutes ago I started testing them out of the Meier PCStep and the bass seems tighter and the highs seem to go higher too. Sounds like an impedance mismatch: the iPod Nano 7G´s ~1.5 doesn´t seem to be good enough? These are very early impressions of course, but connected to the PCStep I am starting to feel more positive towards these. I´m even hearing some nice soundstage tricks IEMs can´t usually do now. The warnings about it being source dependent are 100% true. Don´t use these out of a normal DAP. Currently it looks like these might be going for sale, but I´ll wait until my O2/ODAC arrives.

 

Oh and do not pair these with anything warm. The most analytic, clinical and brightest source possible is what these will sound the best with if you ask me.

 

Nice observations. I think the 7550 is easily the more natural IEM and a better all round performer. I actually like the XBA-40 out of my iPhone 5 at 3.2ohms just as much (if not more) than out of the O2/ODAC; it sounds a little less dark.

 

Definitely the darkness is a big turn off for a lot of people; they are not a balanced IEM at all. That said I absolutely love the soundstaging and imaging 'trick' as you describe it - its honestly to me the most engaging headphone to listen to for things like heavily layered electronic music. Give it some time and you well appreciate the sound more, but its not an all-rounder.

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Good points! I knew in advance that the XBA-40 is an extremely colored IEM, but they´re so cheap from Amazon.jp (via a forwarding service) there´s no financial risk, easy to resell anyway. I´ve now had more time to listen to the XBA-40 and one pattern has indeed emerged: I´m listening to only synthetic well produced (yet bright) music on it. For that it sounds great, the bass is nicely controlled and instrument separation is superb. Perhaps the best instrument separation I´ve heard, surpassed only by Stax and HD 800. The extremely dark sound is very easy to mistake for a lack of detail. In the beginning they sound really muddy coming  from the 7550´s, but when you get used to the darkness you notice that it´s actually very high resolution. It´s especially apparent in synthetic music. I wouldn´t be suprised if these were tuned 100% for top 40 music/synthetic electronica. A low zout is definitely needed: much, much better from the PCStep (<1 ohm) than an iPod. It´ll be interesting to try these with an extremely low zout (like 0,0X) as the impedance chart is probably just as wild as on the XBA-4.

 

EDIT: Just noticed you´re lachlanlikesathing on Youtube... Thanks for the videos, great stuff!


Edited by vrln - 3/29/13 at 1:43am
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Good points! I knew in advance that the XBA-40 is an extremely colored IEM, but they´re so cheap from Amazon.jp (via a forwarding service) there´s no financial risk, easy to resell anyway. I´ve now had more time to listen to the XBA-40 and one pattern has indeed emerged: I´m listening to only synthetic well produced (yet bright) music on it. For that it sounds great, the bass is nicely controlled and instrument separation is superb. Perhaps the best instrument separation I´ve heard, surpassed only by Stax and HD 800. The extremely dark sound is very easy to mistake for a lack of detail. In the beginning they sound really muddy coming  from the 7550´s, but when you get used to the darkness you notice that it´s actually very high resolution. It´s especially apparent in synthetic music. I wouldn´t be suprised if these were tuned 100% for top 40 music/synthetic electronica. A low zout is definitely needed: much, much better from the PCStep (<1 ohm) than an iPod. It´ll be interesting to try these with an extremely low zout (like 0,0X) as the impedance chart is probably just as wild as on the XBA-4.

 

EDIT: Just noticed you´re lachlanlikesathing on Youtube... Thanks for the videos, great stuff!

 

That's exactly the thing I found, and actually the XBA-40 is even more specialised in some ways than the XBA-4 just because it is darker. I think it is the perfect earphone for instruments where we have no reference to what they should ACTUALLY sound like heh. For anything synthetic it is near perfect.

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