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post #136 of 280
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Originally Posted by chengsta View Post

Welp, guess I'll wait for the next latest and greatest amp.  It's not worth it for me to spend another $130 for an amp that's slightly better in only some areas.  I don't mind not being able to play while charging because I don't use the e11 when I'm home anyway. 

I would still mark the E11 as the most enjoyable combination as it truly unleashes that super-woofer. Plus for used e11s going for ~$40, it's truly a no brainer. The e12 gives it a cleaner, natural sound, and balances it out turning the 40s into a great all rounder. If only the e12 had a 2 part bass boost then it would be PERFECT for my ears smily_headphones1.gif.
post #137 of 280
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 If only the e12 had a 2 part bass boost then it would be PERFECT for my ears smily_headphones1.gif.

I totally agree.  Maybe a 3 part bass boost would be even better though :D

post #138 of 280
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thanks, interesting review but i would recommend trying hires Wav or Flac and not 320kbs which sound congested on my c3 with BH. Frankly speaking i understand why you find highs bit harsh on BH with 320kbs material, i agree here, but once you put uncompressed music it starts to show opposite direction.
I had a chance to compare E11 to BH with c3 and E11 sounded just way less clean and i found its bass bloated. Cannot say anything about E12 since had not this for listen. i also find BH is a bit harsh sounding with iPods but then i do not have rockboxed iPod to compare but iTouch.

btw, what is 40s? sorry i am not knowledgeable. Ouch sorry, apparently Sony Iems :-)

No worries, I use 320kbps because I can only discern between this and FLAC if I stop and concentrate on details, by then I'm not really enjoying my music but rather analyzing them.

One thing to note is that the xba40s are a very picky iem so with different daps, amps , and zouts YMMV
post #139 of 280
Canik, no worries, we all love music but have different ears and tastes, there is nothing wrong if someone prefers 320kbs which is more available, i just thought BH and c3 do not like mp3 but there are many good daps like Cowon which play mp3 nicely.
post #140 of 280
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Anyone try the digizoid z02 amp with this? Or is the E11 the best I can get for the bass and clarity?

post #141 of 280
i have Zo2, IMO this is nice in subwoofer mode but not amp. I assume for amp E11 might be a better choice. I did not have E11 but had a chance to try... So far true amp unlike Zo
post #142 of 280
On a similar note has anybody tried any of the xbas with the jds labs c5...? Theoretically their synergy is not ideal due to impedance mismatch (esp the 40) but would still love to hear any impressions from users....except for the e11 has anyone experienced good synergy with any other amps? According to other headfiers on previous posts the e11 sounds better overall compared to the e12 and c&c bh....
post #143 of 280
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On a similar note has anybody tried any of the xbas with the jds labs c5...? Theoretically their synergy is not ideal due to impedance mismatch (esp the 40) but would still love to hear any impressions from users....except for the e11 has anyone experienced good synergy with any other amps? According to other headfiers on previous posts the e11 sounds better overall compared to the e12 and c&c bh....

Its more if you want cleaner, natural balanced sound at the expense of bass impact, go for the E12.

 

If you want a smooth, slightly dark, awesome layering, and immense bass impact, go for the E11.

 

 

The only synergy i didn't like was with the JDS Labs CmoyBB 2.03. The bass boost muddied it up too much and didn't like the overall coherency.

post #144 of 280
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Its more if you want cleaner, natural balanced sound at the expense of bass impact, go for the E12.

 

If you want a smooth, slightly dark, awesome layering, and immense bass impact, go for the E11.

 

 

The only synergy i didn't like was with the JDS Labs CmoyBB 2.03. The bass boost muddied it up too much and didn't like the overall coherency.

I dunno the XBA 40 but the XBA 4 are a very dark sounding IEM to begin with, I can't imaging paring with a dark source would be a good thing.

post #145 of 280
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Sooooo..

 

I sold my C&C BH and bought a Digizoid ZO2.3 off the trade forums for cheap here! 

 

I think this'll be the last amp I purchase, but I will definitely give my impressions with the XBA-40s.

post #146 of 280
funny, i did exactly the opposite, i bought C&C BH and put Zo2.3 for sale. while i love Zo in subwoofer mode i did not find amp mode good enough. however as bass booster Zo is unique and worthy product. i just found amps work better in my rigs.
post #147 of 280
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funny, i did exactly the opposite, i bought C&C BH and put Zo2.3 for sale. while i love Zo in subwoofer mode i did not find amp mode good enough. however as bass booster Zo is unique and worthy product. i just found amps work better in my rigs.

 

Yeah, I've only had the BH for a few weeks, and it's staying for good. The synergy is too wonderful with a bunch of my stuff. And I still haven't had to charge it yet! Freaky.

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I have both.  zo2 by itself isn't that great, but LOD --> zo2  --> e11 is pretty damn good and boomy but a bit dark.  It works better than LOD --> e11 --> zo2 configuration by far.  It will give you a ton of bass double amped that way, and detailed too.  It gave me so much boom i actually got a headache from it.

 

Although it is awesome double amped, and gives a ton of bass, it muddies up the tracks a bit, turns them noticeably darker.  I'm guessing that the muddiness/darkness is a result of the xbas subs trying to play all frequencies due to not having any crossover circuitry. 

 

Now I'm thinking about the ue900 to see if it'll get muddy with the zo2/e11 combo too.  That crossover circuitry may enable deep hard bass while keeping clarity....

post #149 of 280
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I have both.  zo2 by itself isn't that great, but LOD --> zo2  --> e11 is pretty damn good and boomy but a bit dark.  It works better than LOD --> e11 --> zo2 configuration by far.  It will give you a ton of bass double amped that way, and detailed too.  It gave me so much boom i actually got a headache from it.

Although it is awesome double amped, and gives a ton of bass, it muddies up the tracks a bit, turns them noticeably darker.  I'm guessing that the muddiness/darkness is a result of the xbas subs trying to play all frequencies due to not having any crossover circuitry. 

Now I'm thinking about the ue900 to see if it'll get muddy with the zo2/e11 combo too.  That crossover circuitry may enable deep hard bass while keeping clarity....

Definitely intriguing !

Is there any danger to double amping? I might try the zo2 -> e12 combo and see how that works out.

How is the e11 + xba40s compared to the e11 + the zo2s?
post #150 of 280

e11 + xba 40's on eq2 gives good sound stage, detail, and great bass at eq2.  With different tips, it gets brighter but has less bass presence.  I think you already got e11 so you should already know how it sounds, however in comparison, the xba 40 + zo2 + e11 brings the mids forward more and is a bit bassier in all ranges than just the e11 + xba 40, taking away the slightly U shape of the 40's In my opinion.

 

 

So far for me I have been double amping for several days now no problem.  All double amping is, is just a signal from 1 amp going to another amp; signal strength isn't any more damaging than LOD.  LOD is max freaking volume, found out the hard way haha.

 

The LOD ->e11 -> zo2 configuration has less bass detail, and is extremely dark.  However I find that the LOD->zo2 -> e11 configuration is not as dark, and has better sounding bass.  Keep the zo2 somewhere around 15-25% volume, and then adjust with the e11 to your preferred volume. 

 

From there, just play with the bass setting on the zo2 and the 'eq' on the e11.  For the xba 40, I like the zo2 bass contour at the yellow/orange yellow setting, and the e11 eq set to 1.   Just right.

 

 

I used that combo on my sol republic tracks HD headphones and they will rattle your brain with insane bass, but the vocals take a big step backwards.


Edited by chengsta - 4/18/13 at 10:09pm
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