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post #76 of 684
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Originally Posted by Inks View Post

RE0 is NOT overdamped, it's a well vented design. If anything it's a bit underdamped, dampening evens out it's resonant points and gives it a more depth.

 

Well, if you say so...

 

It's been a long time since I heard them, but I still remember their rendering of drums sounded utterly lifeless, as if those were filled with cotton-wool. It felt as if their low end was forcibly strangled to make them sound linear.

post #77 of 684
RE0 have NO subbass though, even ER4s have a bit more rumble. Thus, lifeless drums...
Edited by Inks - 3/16/13 at 5:03pm
post #78 of 684
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If the RE0 lacked dynamic range it will crackle  when you pump the volume. You can test dynamic range with a maximum FR input test, but it's dangerous cause you push the voltage limit of the driver, you crank it till it clips. Or THD vs input will be a good test.

 

I think you are talking about distortion, not dynamic range. I don't see how a headphone could begin to crackle at higher volumes due to poor dynamic range reproduction ability. Doesn't make any sense to me

post #79 of 684
Originally Posted by Pianist View Post

 

I think you are talking about distortion, not dynamic range. I don't see how a headphone could begin to crackle at higher volumes due to poor dynamic range reproduction ability. Doesn't make any sense to me

No, that's silly, this is something I learned from Rin actually. Dynamic Range is really the same as the Signal-to-Noise Ratio (SNR),  It’s the ratio between the loudest undistorted output and what’s left over when nothing is playing. 


Edited by Inks - 3/16/13 at 5:02pm
post #80 of 684
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No, that's silly, this is something I learned from Rin actually. Dynamic Range is really the same as the Signal-to-Noise Ratio (SNR),  It’s the ratio between the loudest undistorted output and what’s left over when nothing is playing. 

 

It seems like you are talking about the properties of sources, not headphones. There is no such property as SNR when describing the sound of headphones.

post #81 of 684
The concept is the same, how its tested is different, its just another part of the chain. Again, nothing concrete is proven for the case that the RE0 lacks dynamic range. The RE0 has other more important issues
post #82 of 684
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Originally Posted by Inks View Post

The concept is the same, how its tested is different, its just another part of the chain. Again, nothing concrete is proven for the case that the RE0 lacks dynamic range. The RE0 has other more important issues

Did you listen the RE0 with a warm amp? I don't think that RE0 lacks any dynamic range and doesn't really have serious issues.

post #83 of 684

My biggest gripe is the lack of bass depth and rumble, even the ER4s have a bit more, no amp will fix this. As James mentioned, it rids impact of drums, luckily midbass is at a nice level. 

post #84 of 684

Would like to know those who have RE-400, what are your impressions?

 

I'm thinking of getting this as an owner in another thread says the sound signature reminds them of the Sennheiser HD-650. Would love to know if this is a correct comparison.

 

Steve

post #85 of 684

Is the RE-400 more or less bass than the RE-262?


Edited by ericp10 - 4/14/13 at 10:02pm
post #86 of 684
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Is the HE-400 more or less bass than the RE-262?

 

Yep, from memory a small increase in mid bass slam.  Based on measurements it looks like probably 3db more between 100hz and 150hz.

post #87 of 684
Thread Starter 

I'll say RE400 has tighter (faster and harder hitting) bass than RE262.

post #88 of 684
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I'll say RE400 has tighter (faster and harder hitting) bass than RE262.


Seconded.

post #89 of 684

Thank you fellas, and for realizing I meant RE400 instead of HE400.  lolbeerchug.gif

post #90 of 684

Hi ClieOS,

 

Thanks for the review. I own RE-0 so based on many review I suppose RE-400 are quite improvement. I wonder how RE-400 compares to DBA02 / Brainwavz B2. I suppose the bass extension would be better on re-400. How are the other aspects like details / imaging / resolution / speed?

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