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post #316 of 353
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they have a fun, exciting, appealing to mass consumers sound in my opinion if you know what i mean

Appealing to Dr Dre in the form of his bank account. It's amazing how the media can move the sheep into purchasing garbage. Bose is a perfect example.

post #317 of 353
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Appealing to Dr Dre in the form of his bank account. It's amazing how the media can move the sheep into purchasing garbage. Bose is a perfect example.
Lies being told over 9000 times would probably become the truth to most, or annoy the heck out of anyone informed and dismissing the lies.
post #318 of 353
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Appealing to Dr Dre in the form of his bank account. It's amazing how the media can move the sheep into purchasing garbage. Bose is a perfect example.


Bose made their own rep via direct sales and the media had very little to do with it. A lot of people seem to forget all too handily that Bose did and still does make some excellent products that performed well for the money. The fact that they are now cashing in on the big boom in audio does not put them in the same class as beats, who have never made a decent product.

post #319 of 353
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Bose made their own rep via direct sales and the media had very little to do with it. A lot of people seem to forget all too handily that Bose did and still does make some excellent products that performed well for the money. The fact that they are now cashing in on the big boom in audio does not put them in the same class as beats, who have never made a decent product.


Agreed I personally think the qc15 doesn't sound too bad regardless of what other people say
post #320 of 353
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Agreed I personally think the qc15 doesn't sound too bad regardless of what other people say

 

I second that. 

 

The QC15s were built intended for noise-cancellation. And they are unmatched in this regard. There is no headphone out there, not from Sennheiser, Denon, or any other maker, that can compete with the Bose's ANC. Half of that $300 goes to ANC. That's why the sound is about $150 quality. 

 

Besides, as an owner of a QC15, I can personally say the Bose isn't incredible, but it isn't at all bad either. In fact, I think it sounds downright natural. The sound just sounds "right." It also handles low bitrate files well, without making them into complete garbage. Which makes me firmly believe the QC15s are a great "average consumer" headphone. They're very comfortable, they have good customer service (they will replace your Bose - no questions asked; this is from several personal experiences), and they appeal to the most "average" listeners' tastes. 

 

Are they for audiophiles? Definitely not. But if I were to buy a headphone for my mother, then the QC15s would be a very good choice. 

 

Bose also doesn't lie about their products. If you go look on their webpage, you see a tired guy listening to his QC15s on a plane. Which is what the QC15s were made for. And their site claims the QC15s are the "best sound headphones from Bose." Which is 100% true.

 

Could I say the same for Beats? Hell NO. 

post #321 of 353
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I second that. 

The QC15s were built intended for noise-cancellation. And they are unmatched in this regard. There is no headphone out there, not from Sennheiser, Denon, or any other maker, that can compete with the Bose's ANC. Half of that $300 goes to ANC. That's why the sound is about $150 quality. 

Besides, as an owner of a QC15, I can personally say the Bose isn't incredible, but it isn't at all bad either. In fact, I think it sounds downright natural. The sound just sounds "right." It also handles low bitrate files well, without making them into complete garbage. Which makes me firmly believe the QC15s are a great "average consumer" headphone. They're very comfortable, they have good customer service (they will replace your Bose - no questions asked; this is from several personal experiences), and they appeal to the most "average" listeners' tastes. 

Are they for audiophiles? Definitely not. But if I were to buy a headphone for my mother, then the QC15s would be a very good choice. 

Bose also doesn't lie about their products. If you go look on their webpage, you see a tired guy listening to his QC15s on a plane. Which is what the QC15s were made for. And their site claims the QC15s are the "best sound headphones from Bose." Which is 100% true.

Could I say the same for Beats? Hell NO. 
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post #322 of 353
IMHO Sound blocking beats noise cancellation on an airplane and everywhere else. I've used both on airplanes, trains and elsewhere. A good pair of IEMs (Ety, Shure, Westone, etc) with well fitting tips will beat ANC, and they can do it for a much lower price.
post #323 of 353

My friend's uncle has the Studios. I've listened to them through my F807 and the Xonar DG > E9. I tried listening for ~half an hour. Sounded bad regardless. Real studios too, not a fake. And they did try to hoodwink the public by saying (real) professionals use them for monitoring. They in no way sounded even close to the ATH-M50 or the HD25-ii which are both ~50%+ cheaper and which are well-fitted for the same-ish genre's the Beats line are supposed to go after. Sound was also in my head, more-so than some IEMs I've used. I preferred the AD700s to them and I absolutely HATE those headphones. Aviators on the other hand, I can see some people enjoying those sound-wise (I didn't personally. A bit muddy coupled with hardly any treble = didn't have a refined sound I like to look for). I didn't pay attention to the ANC and compare it to other headphone's passive isolation though but could care less about it as on every headphone I've tried it just made the headphone sound terrible (I've never tried the QC15s though).

post #324 of 353

I've seen some pictures of people using the Studio with an amplifier, which makes no sense at all because they have their own inline amplifier, making any external power source virtually useless.

post #325 of 353

A friend of mine who goes to business school at my university tried to buy monster headphones.

She bought it online from a scam website and was out $300 and had to cancel her credit card.

She eventually bought a pair from Best Buy (hurr).

I gave them a listen and was like "is this a joke"?  They are terrible, even more so given the retail price.

A fool and his money...

 

i.e. the bashing is justified. They are an immoral company taking advantage of plebs.

post #326 of 353

about ANC, i used to have a pair of sennheiser pxc450, the ANC is nothing close to what the qc15 can do. for commute, the only time i was satisfied with isolation was when i used my etymotic research hf5. 

post #327 of 353

They had a Bose QC 15 on display somehwere, it was playing some jazz tracks, and the station has a noise generator. It was pretty loud (like airplane noise) and when i had the headphone on i didn't even realize it was making so much noise until i took it off. Then i put it back on and the noise vanished. Voices could still be softly heard but the shop noise and simulated airplane noise is completely gone.blink.gif

post #328 of 353
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Originally Posted by Hutnicks View Post


Bose made their own rep via direct sales and the media had very little to do with it. A lot of people seem to forget all too handily that Bose did and still does make some excellent products that performed well for the money. The fact that they are now cashing in on the big boom in audio does not put them in the same class as beats, who have never made a decent product.

 

Marketing in higher end magazine, higher prices, etc All for low quality drivers in large cabinets to 'wow' people into thinking 'such great bass from a tiny box'. It was junk, is junk and will always be junk.

post #329 of 353

Comparing peoples buying habits by comparing BMW's to Beats is retarded. BMW is a quality vehicle, even people who prefer a different brand will tell you so. No self respecting audiophile or semi-audiophile will say Beats are good, or even marginally good for their price. You hear hate on a forum about headphones? Wow...so ******* surprised...do you know the definition of forum. Do yourself some good and look it up. Free exchange of ideas and advice is going to result in hate of ****ty stuff and appreciation of good stuff.

 

I for one will always make fun of people who buy beats. not because I'm an audio snob, but because I'm a good consumer, and I find it hilarious how many people are duped by marketing and too lazy to do any research for themselves. The thing that gets me going about Beats and Soul and all those other BS marketing gimmick phones is that they inherently drive up the prices of good phones as well. It happens in every industry. I remember when it happened to shoes. I have to pay $120 or more for a decent pair of shoes...thanks to ****ty consumers falling for gimmick marketing.

post #330 of 353

This is what marketing does to idiots

 

They  really think you need a wad of cash to buy anything out of quality these days.

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