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You are limited to one connection per case--one optical, one usb, or one coax.  Up to 24/96.

 

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Thanks. And you say they can add an internal DAC to any of those models? Internally? In the same enclosure? That's crazy. I sent them an email. I think their Amps look cool. 

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You are limited to one connection per case--one optical, one usb, or one coax.  Up to 24/96.

 

Works for me... USB is all I need. 

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I just discovered this nifty little item from another thread. It works off USB power and would allow me to get ANY amp with it. It's a bit more hassle but since you don't have to plug it in, I think it would be okay. So that opens up a world of possibilities....

 

 

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http://www.violectric.de/Pages/en/technical-data.php

 

 

   

HPA V90

HPA V100

  HPA V181 

HPA V200

Unbalanced Inputs 2 2 2 2
Balanced Inputs 0 (2) (2) (2)
Impedance 10 kOhms 10 kOhms 10 kOhms 10 kOhms
Unbalanced Outputs 2 (2) (2) (2)
Balanced Outputs 0 0 0 0
Number of Channels 2 2 2 2
Nominal Input Level +6 dBu +6 dBu +6 dBu +6 dBu
Amplifier Gain 8 dB 8 dB 8 dB 8 dB
... with Pre-Gain -4/+2/+8/+14/+20 dB -4/+2/+8/+14/+20 dB  -4/+2/+8/+14/+20 dB -4/+2/+8/+14/+20 dB
Frequency Range (-0,5 dB) 5 Hz - 60 kHz 5 Hz - 60 kHz 5 Hz - 60 kHz    5 Hz - 60 kHz
Damping Factor (in 50 Ohm Load) 300 400 250 800
Dynamic Range (A-wtd) 126 dB 128 dB 128 dB 128 dB
Noise (A-wtd) -102 dB -100 dB -100 dB -100 dB
THD+N @ 10V / 100 Ohms (1W) -108 dB -109 dB -108 dB -110 dB
THD+N @ 4V / 32 Ohms (0,5W) -102 dB -103 dB -109 dB -103 dB
Crosstalk @ 1 kHz -110 dB -115 dB -115 dB -110 dB
Crosstalk @ 15 kHz -90 dB -95 dB -100 dB -95 dB
Output Voltage in 600 Ohms 20,9 Veff 19,6 V 20,2 V 18,5 V
Output Power in 600 Ohms 730 mW 640 mW 680 mW 570 mW
Output Voltage in 100 Ohms 15,2 V 14,5 V 16,6 V 14,8 V
Output Power in 100 Ohms 2300 mW 2100 mW 2700 mW 2200 mW
Output Voltage in 50 Ohms 9,4 V 10,5 V 10,2 11,6 V
Output Power in 50 Ohms 1780 mW 2200 mW 2100 mW 2700 mW
Output Voltage in 32 Ohms 6,4 V 7,4 V 7,9 V 8,0 V
Output Power in 32 Ohms 1300 mW 1700 mW 1950 mW 2000 mW
Output Voltage in 16 Ohms 3,0 V 3,5 V 4,5 V 4 Veff
Output Power in 16 Ohms 550 mW 780 mW 1250 mW 1000 mW
Number of Outputs 2 2     2
Power Supply 230 / 115 V 230 / 115 V     230 / 115 V
Power Consumption 7 VA 10 VA     10 VA
Dimensions (WxHxD) mm 170x49x126 170x49x225     170x49x225

 

The Burson still puts out a lot more power than anything else I can find out there. It's a full 4 watts per channel @16 ohm. That's gonna be hard to beat... I told my wife I was getting frustrated trying to find the right DAC/Amp Combo and she said "you mean NONE of them work for you???" To which I replied "Well. One of them does, but it costs $2000.00". To which she replied "Why don't you just get that one?" Wait. What??? OH MY GOD!!!  blink.gif

 

 

YESSS!!!! I got the wife to cosign my insanity. Now I just have to decide if I want to pull the trigger. It would be great to be done with this... beerchug.gif


Edited by bareyb - 2/28/13 at 1:33am
post #20 of 58

if u need something really portable...the dacportLX can power a can like DT770/600ohm to very high volume, usb off a laptop ..,without the need of another amp. dacportLX is v clean clear sounding, v dark background. 

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if u need something really portable...the dacportLX can power a can like DT770/600ohm to very high volume, usb off a laptop ..,without the need of another amp. dacportLX is v clean clear sounding, v dark background. 

It doesn't need to be all that light weight or portable. It mainly needs to be able to be torn down and setup quickly and have as few parts as possible. The smaller the footprint the better of course, but power is a major concern. I don't want to make the same mistake again and get something underpowered. 2 wpc minimum. But it's looking like I'll probably be getting the Burson and that thing has a ton of power. 


Edited by bareyb - 2/27/13 at 11:22pm
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UPDATE: Purchased the "Burson Conductor" on Amazon last night. They had 2 day shipping for only $15.00. I researched until late in the night and in the end, price aside, the Burson is the most powerful and the reviews are great. It's definitely as good as I'm going to find for an all in one solution.  I wish it didn't cost so much but that's what I always say with high end stuff and then later I'm glad I spent the dough. It will be here early next week. I'm a happy man! Thanks for the advice and help. 

 

Cheers,

Barry B. 

beerchug.gif

 

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UPDATE: Purchased the "Burson Conductor" on Amazon last night. They had 2 day shipping for only $15.00. I researched until late in the night and in the end, price aside, the Burson is the most powerful and the reviews are great. It's definitely as good as I'm going to find for an all in one solution.  I wish it didn't cost so much but that's what I always say with high end stuff and then later I'm glad I spent the dough. It will be here early next week. I'm a happy man! Thanks for the advice and help. 

 

Cheers,

Barry B. 

beerchug.gif

Congrats, Conductor is an amazing piece of gear!

post #24 of 58
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Congrats, Conductor is an amazing piece of gear!

 

Thank you DarKu. Your review (and that whole thread in particular)  had a lot to do with the purchase. I'm really looking forward to finally having the power I crave. wink.gif
post #25 of 58
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I heard from the guy at Lake People / Violectric. You can indeed add a DAC to their Amps. Thought I should add this to the thread for future seekers who are looking for a powerful All-In-One. 

 

 

 

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Hello Barry,
 
thank you for your interest in our products.
 
Our most powerful amp for a 32 Ohm load is V181.
It can power nearly 2 Wats into a 32 Ohm load.
 
See the attached manual for more information.
 
We are offering a DAC to be put inside our headphone amps and you may select 1 of 3 inputs: optical, coaxial, USB

See here:
 
All DACs offer 24 Bit perfomance and 110 dB dynamic range. 
The coaxial and optical versions are capable of 28 ... 108 kHz sampling rate, while the DAC with USB input covers 44.1, 48 and 96 kHz 
 
I hope I could answer your questions
 
best regards
 
Fried Reim
post #26 of 58
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Reply from the guys at Audio-gd: 

 

 

 

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Dear Barry,
The Compass 2 is most powerful ( unbalanced) DAC and AMP all in one combo.
We have not return policy, so sorry.
Here is the quote
Audio-gd Quote List
1,Please confirm the quote list correct then make the payment.
2,Our Paypal account:  audio-gd@vip.163.com
3,Please include the order No. , address, name and telephone number in the Paypal message for the shipment.
post #27 of 58
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Originally Posted by bareyb View Post

UPDATE: Purchased the "Burson Conductor" on Amazon last night. They had 2 day shipping for only $15.00. I researched until late in the night and in the end, price aside, the Burson is the most powerful and the reviews are great. It's definitely as good as I'm going to find for an all in one solution.  I wish it didn't cost so much but that's what I always say with high end stuff and then later I'm glad I spent the dough. It will be here early next week. I'm a happy man! Thanks for the advice and help. 

 

Cheers,

Barry B. 

beerchug.gif

 

Congrats on the purchase! 

 

I really love mine. Here are my impressions of it.

post #28 of 58
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Congrats on the purchase! 

 

I really love mine. Here are my impressions of it.

Ha! Yeah I read your review a couple of times. Very clever and I could certainly relate to this guy:

 

 

I'm excited to hear it and I hope it's my end game for an all-in-one. Did you ever happen to get a chance to compare it to a DACMini? That's what I have now, and it's not quite enough... I'm hoping this will take it to the next level. 


Edited by bareyb - 3/2/13 at 2:46pm
post #29 of 58
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Ha! Yeah I read your review a couple of times. Very clever and I could certainly relate to this guy:

 

 

I'm excited to hear it and I hope it's my end game for an all-in-one. Did you ever happen to get a chance to compare it to a DACMini? That's what I have now, and it's not quite enough... I'm hoping this will take it to the next level. 

 

Unfortunately I did not hear the DACMini, so cannot give you my input on it, but if I ever get my hands on one, I will compare them side by side and write a post about it :D.
However I heard Conductor near M2Tech Vaughan, and I must say that Amp wise conductor is better hands down, an DAC wise the difference was so ...soo small, and that says something about Conductor :D

post #30 of 58
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Unfortunately I did not hear the DACMini, so cannot give you my input on it, but if I ever get my hands on one, I will compare them side by side and write a post about it :D.
However I heard Conductor near M2Tech Vaughan, and I must say that Amp wise conductor is better hands down, an DAC wise the difference was so ...soo small, and that says something about Conductor :D

The DACMini is a really nice all-in-one that would probably satisfy the audiophile needs of almost anyone...but me... redface.gif

 

It just doesn't quite pack the punch I want on those rare occasions. The DAC is a little finicky too. It crashes almost every night with my Macbook Pro for some reason. I'm hoping the Burson will be more stable with their own custom Driver. has the Burson been pretty stable for you with your Computer? He says with fingers crossed... 

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