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So first of all, hi everyone! I've been lurking this forum for some time already. As my music hobby has been getting more and more out of hand, I've been thinking about buying a DAP that could store 'a bit more' music than my iPhone 4S. I've been reading some of the threads here and it seems thant you guys know something about these things, so maybe you could help me bit. smile.gif

 

I'm a Mac guy, a happy iPhone and iPad user, so obviously my first thought was buying an iPod Classic. I currently have about 45 GB of music, most of it in Apple Lossless. Classic would perfectly fit all of that and still have plenty of room left for my upcoming music purchases. However, I started wondering if the Classic really is the best possible solution for me? Basically I'm not willing to pay more than the price of a Classic, but I wonder if there are some better alternatives in the same price range. Sandisk Sansa Clip+ with a 64GB MicroSD was the only option that I found, and I guess it would require RockBoxing. It looks really nice and small (my father used to have an old Sansa Clip, which I didn't look that good as a player, but damn how small it was!), but also a bit cheap. I guess that 8GB of internal memory and a 64GB microSD would be enough for me, and the smaller form factor is also a bonus. How about the user interface? I have actually never owned a clickwheel iPod, but I do like the iOS music player. I also know that the Sansa Clip+ screen doesn't have colours and doesn't show cover art, which is a bit sad as I do enjoy watching my cover art while browsing my music.  How is the sound quality with these devices? Does it perfectly combine the internal storage and the microSD so that I can shuffle all the music that is in the device?

 

Here are some thoughts about my ideal player:

-I have other devices for other forms of entertainment, so I don't need additional features unrelated to music.

-I'm still going to go running listening to my iPhone, so it doesn't really matter if the player has a HDD; it's not going to be used during workouts.

-Most of the time I listen to complete albums, sometimes I use shuffle. No need for advanced playlist features or anything like that.

-Gapless album playback is a must.

-What I'm looking for is a single device to store all my music, so buying two cheaper players isn't an option.

-I like to organise my music automatically and use iTunes for syncing, 'drag and drop' support isn't really a plus

-It must have support for Last.fm

-Most of my music is either Apple Lossless or AAC. Obviously converting the files is always possible, but I'm not very keen to do it. I don't need FLAC support.

 

I know that these may make it look like I'm an Apple maniac who is wanting to hear people saying that the iPod Classic is the best choice. Obviously that's not the case, I'm open to alternatives and of course all my requirements aren't that strict. So, as you probably know more about these things than I do, please tell me what you think. Thanks! regular_smile%20.gif

post #2 of 6

the below really gives you little choice, by Last FM, do you mean FM radio or web access?

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Originally Posted by Murrechat View Post

 

-Gapless album playback is a must.

-What I'm looking for is a single device to store all my music, so buying two cheaper players isn't an option.

-I like to organise my music automatically and use iTunes for syncing, 'drag and drop' support isn't really a plus

-It must have support for Last.fm

-Most of my music is either Apple Lossless or AAC. Obviously converting the files is always possible, but I'm not very keen to do it. I don't need FLAC support.

 

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Originally Posted by KT66 View Post

the below really gives you little choice, by Last FM, do you mean FM radio or web access?

Sorry, I simply meant support for scrobbling. iPod Classic has it built in, and I've read that it also works in all devices with Rockbox.

post #4 of 6

Is that really important you?

 

I don't know Apple players that well but it sounds like you'd be happiest with an Ipod

 

If sound quality is important and you can live without features for better audio, then look

at the Hifiman and Hisoundaudio range, they sound superb, but you won't like using them!

 

What is your budget? 

Lots of happy Apple users here, search some threads

post #5 of 6

The latest iPod classic is great in many ways, but for best SQ you will want to use a line out to an external amp. I am not sure of the specs, but I experience bass roll-off using iem's with the latest classic, straight from the headphone jack. This leads me to believe it has a slightly high output impedance. However, using line out to an amp, this is a non-issue and the SQ is pretty darn good. It is up to yo to decide if you want the added expense and complexity of using an amp with it.

 

The other thing to consider is the 5G ipod touch. It may have features you don't need, but the SQ straight fro the headphone out is really good. Crystal clear. I have one I use just for music/streaming. Not using lots of the features (I have a smart phone and tablet) but for plugging right into as a one-item solution it is hard to beat.

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Originally Posted by Murrechat View Post

 

Sandisk Sansa Clip+ with a 64GB MicroSD was the only option that I found, and I guess it would require RockBoxing. It looks really nice and small (my father used to have an old Sansa Clip, which I didn't look that good as a player, but damn how small it was!), but also a bit cheap. I guess that 8GB of internal memory and a 64GB microSD would be enough for me, and the smaller form factor is also a bonus. How about the user interface? I have actually never owned a clickwheel iPod, but I do like the iOS music player. I also know that the Sansa Clip+ screen doesn't have colours and doesn't show cover art, which is a bit sad as I do enjoy watching my cover art while browsing my music.  How is the sound quality with these devices? Does it perfectly combine the internal storage and the microSD so that I can shuffle all the music that is in the device?

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I am just responding to the Sansa Clip part of your post. I have a Clip Zip (not Clip+) and it can show colors and album art. The screen, however, is too small for the album art to really dazzle. I am also quite happy with the default interface and OS and reverted to it after trying rockbox for a month. Internal storage and microsd are treated separately but that doesnt bother me as I have a 4GB player with 32GB card. All my real music is in the card which I am thinking of upgrading to 64GB.

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