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I just want to have a post on page 666.

It's page 999 on my mobile...
post #9962 of 17129

you must be an evil Australian (down under):D

post #9963 of 17129
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Originally Posted by CH23 View Post

The way it should be is:
Neutral source - coloured headphones.

Let me explain you why:
Most people colour on white paper, which is neutral.
If you need something darker you can use a dark pencil (black, brown, grey, dark red)
If you need something lighter you use a light pencil (red, yellow, green)

If the standard was grey paper, you won't ever be able to get to white easily.

It's the same with audiisources and headphones.

 

Wow. This is the most perfect analogy I´ve ever read.

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Hey guys, 

Have you experienced lag in 2.14b ? I sometimes experience with 24 bit music... I am thinking it could be because of the sd card, but never had such problems with 2.1... I am disturbed

 

Btw I dislike the volume mode to be with 120 steps... I have to click like crazy to decrease the volume decently... 


Edited by Ananasov - 5/9/14 at 6:29am
post #9965 of 17129
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Originally Posted by hykhleif View Post
 

exactly so let them offer us pre-sets 

 

i honestly don't like the sound sig in 2.14 and thats my take on it, plz respect my opinion as that is what it is to me


The idea of pre-sets is not radical. It's done on virtually all TVs and computer monitors so people don't have to fool around with brightness, contrast, and color settings. Shouldn't be hard to do on the X3 and X5, but who decides what the pre-set settings should be?

post #9966 of 17129
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Originally Posted by Dkhand View Post


No one expect you to carry your whole rack of headphones when you are out and about. There are headphones that fits 90% of your or my needs. But sometimes, like CH23 said earlier, colored players don't pleases a lot people because the if say you have a dark grey paper and you using a dark grey pencil on it you can't see a thing and it would be like rolling in the mid. In audio, everything starts from the source and the player that plays them. If the player "contaminates" the source by over adding "colour" to it, it would be a bad player because it's impeding the source material.

 

Very true. Over the course of some years I have listened, tested and reviewed more than 50 portable units. Those include for the most part CD players and MD units, some HDD or flash-based DAPs. Among them there are some very beautiful sounding but very coloured units. Sony D-20, D-335, MZ-R 37 and Technics SL-XP 300 spring to mind. Their very characteristic signature works fairly well for some genres like pop or rock. But classical music? Jazz? Horrible. Perfect recordings are even worse because their qualities are simply hidden by the colourization.

 

I may find their sound beautiful but in the end I always turn towards the more neutral devices, simply because their sound is always predictable and follows the general rule of a more neutral sound.

 

People have to be aware of one thing: all those units (including the X3) are cold, theoretical physics at work. The music they play is digitally stored, therefore pure mathematics. They behave according to pre-set rules and conditions within the limit of the parts used for them. They are machines, they don´t know what genre of music you´re listening to, they cannot interpret the music for you even though it may sometimes appear that way.

 

People always say: "I don´t listen to frequency spectrums, I listen to music".

 

No, you´re not. Since these are basically electronic, engineered devices, you´re listening to physics at work, no more, no less. If those devices colour the music, sound well with pop but crappy with other genres, that only means that their engineers engineered some flaws into them. It doesn´t matter if they did it on purpose (happens a lot), because of budget restrictions or simply because they don´t know how to do it right (happens a lot too).


Edited by Marlene - 5/9/14 at 5:17am
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Hello I bought the X3 a week ago and now reading up about ohms , resistance , voltage etc it makes me question what type of headphones I should use with this device.

 

Headphone collection:

Panasonic RP-HTX7 

HD 558 w/ Foam mod

fostex t20rp mkii (non modded)

 

Devices:

Fiio E7 (with no Aux in jack - it broke so only USB)

Fiio X3

 

Questions! (Warning they may be stupid ones I'm still learning here)

 

Assuming impedance is ohms, dividing headphone impedance by 8 is the maximum ohms you can give the headphones without loosing any degradation?

 

Does the X3 & E7 auto detect the correct power , voltage , impedance? and is it always most accurate (if not is there anyway to control it?) or is it depending on volume and low-high gain. 

 

Before playing a song on my X3 always hear a small click, this happens everytime a song changes or new headphones are plugged in.. Something to be concerned about or not?

 

My Panasonic RP-HTX7 sound just as loud on my X3 as my E7 (e7 using USB), Why?

 

The X3 / E7 cannot power my fostex t20rp mkii at any decent volume. My dead JVC receiver which was made in early 2001 was the only unit that could make them vibrate and sound LOUD (volume control went from -100db to 0db) and loud was at -5db before it distorted. They also made my HD 558 vibrate so much that it was hitting the plastic casing. The question here is what receivers / amps are recommended for these headphones to output really loud volume like my JVC? Would really like to hear my Fostex again but nothing can push them!

 

 

Thanks!


Edited by matthewacbroad - 5/9/14 at 5:36am
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you must be an evil Australian (down under):D

A Tasmanian devil
post #9969 of 17129

Received X3 today with 2.1 firmware. Formatted blank SanDisk 64GB Ultra in actual player. Transferred 32GB of MP3's (320kbps) from laptop straight to player. Everything went totally smoothly and without problems.

 

Coming from a Cowon i9, the interface is no more or less quirky than that player, so happy days.

It plays as faultless as the Cowon too. Shows album art, info etc...

I download all my albums from 7Digital, so I can only assume owners who have problems with this player are trying to play tracks that are slightly less organized.

 

Coupled with my Audio Technica ATH-M50x's, the combination sounds awesome. Very powerful. The Cowon has less dynamic range across the spectrum.

I had virtually every setting tweaked on the Cowon to get a sound I was happy with. The X3 didn't need anything tweaking. Bass and treble reside at zero.

 

The only negative I can think of at the moment is a very slight audible pause/click between tracks on live concert albums such as Pink Floyd (gapless on), but hey, who cares when the sound is this good.


Edited by HeadphonesRock - 5/9/14 at 7:21am
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Originally Posted by matthewacbroad View Post

 

Does the X3 & E7 auto detect the correct power , voltage , impedance? and is it always most accurate (if not is there anyway to control it?) or is it depending on volume and low-high gain. 

 

 

The X3 is not a power distribution unit or power processor.  It can't tell if you are plugging in an $5 earbud or a $1500 headphone.  You must use your ear as a judge to see if what setting is right for you (with some forethought on what is the impedence on your headphone.  Pretty much anything above 60 ohms you may want to consider using high gain otherwise, low save batteries as you don't really need the extra power).  If you find it you are pushing your volume way up high in the 75+% volume, you may way to turn high gain on.

 

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Before playing a song on my X3 always hear a small click, this happens everytime a song changes or new headphones are plugged in.. Something to be concerned about or not?

 

The clicking is a known issue with older Firmware (FW) and I think 2.1 and 2.14b sort of fixes that.  I can't remember what was the cause of it, but no, nothing to be concerned about.

 

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My Panasonic RP-HTX7 sound just as loud on my X3 as my E7 (e7 using USB), Why?

 

Not quite sure what you mean by that.

 

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The X3 / E7 cannot power my fostex t20rp mkii at any decent volume. My dead JVC receiver which was made in early 2001 was the only unit that could make them vibrate and sound LOUD (volume control went from -100db to 0db) and loud was at -5db before it distorted. They also made my HD 558 vibrate so much that it was hitting the plastic casing. The question here is what receivers / amps are recommended for these headphones to output really loud volume like my JVC? Would really like to hear my Fostex again but nothing can push them! 

 

You are going into amp pairing here and you would need to go else where on the forum for this.  But generally, a lot of headphone amps big or small on the market can do what I think you are trying to ask.  IMO, being super loud isn't already the most pleasant or the healthiest way to listen to music. Hope the best of luck on your amp/receiver search.

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I'm a bit unsure of what mains charger to use with the X3. Charging from the laptop takes forever.

 

The Fiio blurb states:

 

When charging with PC USB: current up to 500mA, charging time about 8hrs.
When charging with 1.5A USB adapter, current up to 1,300mA, charging time about 3hrs.
(except for first batch of X3s, which had current up to 750mA, charging time about 5hrs.)

 

Does this mean I have to use a mains charger limited to 1.5A, or does the X3 limit the charging current?

 

I have my Nexus 7 USB mains charger which states the output as 2.0A, so would it be safe to use this?

 

Any advice much appreciated ;) 

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Originally Posted by HeadphonesRock View Post

I'm a bit unsure of what mains charger to use with the X3. Charging from the laptop takes forever.

 

The Fiio blurb states:

 

When charging with PC USB: current up to 500mA, charging time about 8hrs.
When charging with 1.5A USB adapter, current up to 1,300mA, charging time about 3hrs.
(except for first batch of X3s, which had current up to 750mA, charging time about 5hrs.)

 

Does this mean I have to use a mains charger limited to 1.5A, or does the X3 limit the charging current?

 

I have my Nexus 7 USB mains charger which states the output as 2.0A, so would it be safe to use this?

 

Any advice much appreciated " src="http://files.head-fi.org/images/smilies/wink.gif" /> 


I think the power regulator will restrict how many mA the X3 can flow into the battery. I have used a 2.0A iPad adaptor before without any harm. (At less that I can tell)
post #9973 of 17129
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Originally Posted by HeadphonesRock View Post
 

I'm a bit unsure of what mains charger to use with the X3. Charging from the laptop takes forever.

 

The Fiio blurb states:

 

When charging with PC USB: current up to 500mA, charging time about 8hrs.
When charging with 1.5A USB adapter, current up to 1,300mA, charging time about 3hrs.
(except for first batch of X3s, which had current up to 750mA, charging time about 5hrs.)

 

Does this mean I have to use a mains charger limited to 1.5A, or does the X3 limit the charging current?

 

I have my Nexus 7 USB mains charger which states the output as 2.0A, so would it be safe to use this?

 

Any advice much appreciated ;) 

 

It means X3 will draw a maximum of 1.3A. It will not draw more than that, and will charge slower if it doesn't get as much current as it can draw (again, 1.3A). So any USB adapter with over 1.3A output will charge X3 as fast as it can be, including a 2.0A charger. In other words - yes, totally safe.

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Originally Posted by HeadphonesRock View Post

I'm a bit unsure of what mains charger to use with the X3. Charging from the laptop takes forever.

The Fiio blurb states:

When charging with PC USB: current up to 500mA, charging time about 8hrs.

When charging with 1.5A USB adapter, current up to 1,300mA, charging time about 3hrs.

(except for first batch of X3s, which had current up to 750mA, charging time about 5hrs.)


Does this mean I have to use a mains charger limited to 1.5A, or does the X3 limit the charging current?

I have my Nexus 7 USB mains charger which states the output as 2.0A, so would it be safe to use this?

Any advice much appreciated wink.gif  

Amperage doesn't matter, as the X3 will only take what it can handle smily_headphones1.gif
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I use a 2 way USB wall charger. There is a 1.0A output and a 2.1A. I use the 1.0A with my Fiio E11 and that charges faster than the 0.5A from a PC USB. I use the 2.1A port to charge the X3. I will see how long it takes next time I need to charge it. What I noticed is that is only likes certain micro USB cables. It didn't like a USB cable that didn't allow data to pass through it even to just charge it from the wall.


Edited by TheGiantHogweed - 5/9/14 at 9:48am
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