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post #9751 of 12471

After a few days of enjoying BETA 2.14, I can say it is awesome.  The (nice problem to have, imo) is that details and clarity are so good now, I can clearly tell good recordings from average/bad.  I could tell before, but now, the good is WOW, and average/bad is the opposite.  I guess the X3 really makes you wonder how some recording engineers keep getting new work!  There's even been a few cd's that I thought sounded really good that turned out to be just average.  Thanks, Fiio!  

 

Truthfully, the way I see the X3, it allows me to enter a world of music enjoyment that I otherwise would not have been able to afford. 

 

Also, may I be the first to say I DO NOT WANT to try the new beta.  I think, from a corporate standpoint, it should be controlled as 2.16B is, and I am not qualified to test it.  I agree with Joe that he is being super supportive in trying to support the customer, but it damages a name/brand when public complaints are aired over a beta version, even if they are aired in a respectful manner.  There will be people reading who don't get that it's a beta, and assume it's a flaw.  Good call, Joe.  

post #9752 of 12471

I'm actually looking forward to the newer version beta firmware.


Edited by Francisk - 5/4/14 at 9:09am
post #9753 of 12471

This is going to sound weird and probably an odd question

Is it possible to get an additional adapter for the fiio x3 so that I can run this current setup?

FiiO X3 -> Coaxial Out -> Mini USB -> ODAC -> O2
I'm going to be going to a hotel and I don't have a laptop, plus the ODAC/O2 serves better with my Q701's. The ODAC/O2 serves better with them in regards to soundstage depth than the X3.

I don't think the X3 has OTG usb support... and most of you might just end up saying "get the x5"


Edited by Nec3 - 5/4/14 at 9:24am
post #9754 of 12471
Hi all
I have been looking at the X3 and I have some questions I hope you can help with. First I have been using a iPod touch and all my files are apple losses will the X3 play them if not is there a quick way to convert them to FLAC? 2nd I have a nuforce Ido amp/DAC at my desk for the iPod and I like the sound is the X3 close to that? Lastly I hope the X3 would power any IEM like DN-2000 or shure 425 but will I need a amp for say HE-400?
Thanks
post #9755 of 12471
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Originally Posted by Kozic View Post

Hi all
I have been looking at the X3 and I have some questions I hope you can help with. First I have been using a iPod touch and all my files are apple losses will the X3 play them if not is there a quick way to convert them to FLAC? 2nd I have a nuforce Ido amp/DAC at my desk for the iPod and I like the sound is the X3 close to that? Lastly I hope the X3 would power any IEM like DN-2000 or shure 425 but will I need a amp for say HE-400?
Thanks

Yes, the X3 plays ALAC files seamlessly. You can just highlight what you want in iTunes and drag it to the appropriate folder to copy them. At least you can in Mac OSX.

Don't know about the sound of the Nuforce, but if you like it use the X3 as a source.

The X3 will play very nicely with your IEM. Again, if you like the sound of an another amp use it in the chain, but the X3 sounds very nice on its own and is quite powerful. Especially compared to the iPod touch.
post #9756 of 12471
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Originally Posted by LasVegas View Post

No, you won't need an amp for any HE-400 qwith the X3. The amplification section is powerful enough to drive even the more demanding headphones. There's even an option for Low and High Gain there. Like an external amp.

I own the HE-400 and agree that you don't need an amp to drive them to high volume. However, I Do find that with all firmware except for 2.14b, I prefer to use my E12 DIY amp with them to improve bass response, clarity, and soundstage. With 2.14b, you don't need an amp. It's that good!
Edited by nmatheis - 5/4/14 at 1:11pm
post #9757 of 12471
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Originally Posted by x RELIC x View Post


Yes, the X3 plays ALAC files seamlessly. You can just highlight what you want in iTunes and drag it to the appropriate folder to copy them. At least you can in Mac OSX.

Don't know about the sound of the Nuforce, but if you like it use the X3 as a source.

The X3 will play very nicely with your IEM. Again, if you like the sound of an another amp use it in the chain, but the X3 sounds very nice on its own and is quite powerful. Especially compared to the iPod touch.

+1 confirming this ..

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Originally Posted by Kozic View Post

Hi all
I have been looking at the X3 and I have some questions I hope you can help with. First I have been using a iPod touch and all my files are apple losses will the X3 play them if not is there a quick way to convert them to FLAC? 2nd I have a nuforce Ido amp/DAC at my desk for the iPod and I like the sound is the X3 close to that? Lastly I hope the X3 would power any IEM like DN-2000 or shure 425 but will I need a amp for say HE-400?
Thanks

and it will power all IEMs + portable and moderately high impedance headphones but for orthodynamic headphone or even high impedance dynamic headphone ( 250 ohm and higher ) i suspect X3 will do the job well .. those headphones didn't designed even to be portable ..... yes it will drive them LOUD ... but not properly like an external dedicated amp

post #9758 of 12471
Thanks for the info very helpful.
post #9759 of 12471
i am following this thread for a while now, with the latest firmware i am going to get an X3, seems like a no brainer considering the price.
Edited by roamling - 5/4/14 at 4:25pm
post #9760 of 12471
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Originally Posted by roamling View Post

i am following this thread for a while now, with the latest firmware i am going to get an X3, seems like a no brainer considering the price.

you should always consider dx50... it is a dap with a different sound signature.

post #9761 of 12471
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Originally Posted by roamling View Post

i am following this thread for a while now, with the latest firmware i am going to get an X3, seems like a no brainer considering the price.

Especially if you can pick one up secondhand. I put together my portable rig, X3 and SM64 for under $500 by shopping secondhand!
post #9762 of 12471

Now that I starting to get the hang of this device, a few observations.

 

First, I think the general concensus is that the beta firmware (with the volume mod) is pretty much the only way to go.

 

Second, at least for me, one has to format the memory cards on the PC using a special utility.  I could not get the device itself to format the card.

 

Third, while I have not tested the DAC on a PC, it does not seem to work with an Apple device using the CCK.  I get the dreaded "this device takes too much power" message.  Yes, I did try setting to DAC mode and that did not make a difference.  

 

Fourth, I think many users of the forum have more refined ears than I.  I have compared it to playing 24 / 96 files on the iphone through the E07 using the CCK, and that sounds pretty similar to me to the X3.  Of course the X3 is a single unit versus an iphone or ipad, a CCK, and a usb cable.

 

Fifth, the display leaves something to be desired.  Very hard to read it in daylight.

 

Sixth, as noted by another post,  there is little advantage to playing a DSD file.  Well, a DFF file that carries DSD data.   They sound the same as converting the file to FLAC using Foobar.

 

Seventh, the button layouts are somewhat confusing.

 

I hope the DAC proves useful with a portable PC.   Otherwise I might suggest that users on the fence wait for the X1.  I will probably keep the unit as I would like to have use of it this summer.  The DAC shortcoming is a real downer.  Perhaps FIIO will address that in a firmware update.

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post #9764 of 12471
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Originally Posted by originalsnuffy View Post

Now that I starting to get the hang of this device, a few observations.

First, I think the general concensus is that the beta firmware (with the volume mod) is pretty much the only way to go.

2.14 beta is the best sounding firmware to date but does have some quirks, being beta firmware.

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Second, at least for me, one has to format the memory cards on the PC using a special utility.  I could not get the device itself to format the card.

Never had a problem with formatting mSD cards with the X3.

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Originally Posted by originalsnuffy View Post

Third, while I have not tested the DAC on a PC, it does not seem to work with an Apple device using the CCK.  I get the dreaded "this device takes too much power" message.  Yes, I did try setting to DAC mode and that did not make a difference.

This isn't an advertised function and probably won't happen.

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Originally Posted by originalsnuffy View Post

Fourth, I think many users of the forum have more refined ears than I.  I have compared it to playing 24 / 96 files on the iphone through the E07 using the CCK, and that sounds pretty similar to me to the X3.  Of course the X3 is a single unit versus an iphone or ipad, a CCK, and a usb cable.

That's the point - use one device instead of two!

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Fifth, the display leaves something to be desired.  Very hard to read it in daylight.

Yup. It's hard for small companies to source great displays at reasonable prices.
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Originally Posted by originalsnuffy View Post

Sixth, as noted by another post,  there is little advantage to playing a DSD file.  Well, a DFF file that carries DSD data.   They sound the same as converting the file to FLAC using Foobar.

Not interested in DSD - FLAC's great!

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Seventh, the button layouts are somewhat confusing.

Not arguing with you on this one. The X5 starts to solve these issues, although I think the button layout will always be a little funky for Westerners.

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Originally Posted by originalsnuffy View Post

I hope the DAC proves useful with a portable PC.   Otherwise I might suggest that users on the fence wait for the X1.  I will probably keep the unit as I would like to have use of it this summer.  The DAC shortcoming is a real downer.  Perhaps FIIO will address that in a firmware update.

Again, your main gripe is about a 'problem' that was never an advertised feature. If you want something will be a DAC for your iPhone, but something that's advertised as such and you'll be happy. Don't buy a product that was never intended to have that functionality and complain about it.
post #9765 of 12471

Hi

 

There is a ongoing discussion on a Russian forum (http://player.ru/showthread.php?t=90020&page=342) regarding the SQ of the 2.16 FW. Some people there are claiming that SQ of 2.14b is better than 2.16b.

 

For the knowledgeable people here: care to comment on this? Which SQ tuning is planed for the stable version: 2.14 or 2.16?

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