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post #9586 of 17129

Hello James! I really want to be a tester of the new beta-version of firmware!

post #9587 of 17129
Count me in for the beta test as well James, much appreciated.

Edited by razorblader - 4/28/14 at 9:18am
post #9588 of 17129

I wouldn't mind help test the new FW.

post #9589 of 17129
@JamesFiiO: I'd help beta test. I help with user acceptance testing at work as a beta tester for new database releases.

And I agree to keep it small and controllable, so the beta-testers are trusted and messaging is controlled with respect to beta fw bugs. I can only imagine how frustrating it must be to see people complaining about beta fw like it should be stable.
Edited by nmatheis - 4/28/14 at 9:19am
post #9590 of 17129
Hi there,
 
A quick review with the new FW. I'm not an audiophile (just a music lover), so take my words with a grain of salt.
 
I've been playing around with the new 2.14 beta FW and had a few listening sessions all over the WE with my headphone (Grado SR80i).
 
First of all, the beta FW is pretty stable at the moment.
I also installed the modded FW by razorblader and nmatheis, thanks a lot guys for your efforts.
Even if I use a low impedance can (32Ohm), it is always nice to have more tweeks to play with..
 
The X3 was born on the dark side of the Force (a little bit too warm for me), I had to play with the bass / trebble settings to make the music meet my tastes.
After a few hours of re visiting my FLAC collection (16 bit 44 khz to 24 bit 96 khz), I can say that the X3 is now playing in another league.
 
I'm not sure for the better highs or micro-details (could be a headphone's bottleneck), but the sound seems clearer.
The voices (which seemed previously in the background) have been brought in front of the stage.
I made the test with London Grammar and Dead Can Dance albums, the difference is pretty obvious, ths voices aren't overrun by the intruments anymore.
 
Even if the sound is still warm, the music is brighter to my ears (I've even changed the bass settings to 0, previsously at -2, which is perfect to keep a little bit of reverb), and makes the music come alive.
 
I've also tried the EQ (custom and stock settings), it is really useless by now: all the benefits seems to disapear. I quicky turned it off. Initial bass and trebble settings still works great.
 
About the volume, It was between 19 and 23 on the previous FW, now, I navigate between 30 and 45 (no big deal, just strange behavior - or volume control is more precise).
 
I agree about the Cartoonesque UI, but it works properly (even if the management of the buttons can't replace a wheel). There is still a learning curve understandings the small pictograms.
 
UI colors makes it difficult to read (fonts should be darker), apart from the dark theme which is ok (and even better with the modded fonts).
 
I sometimes access a blank screen when going up one level when listening to an album. Then pressing the uper leftt button again brings a menu with favorate settings and a third press brings the nominal screen.
 
The DAP happened to turn off ounce while listening to an album and after navigating in the folder view.
 
Switching between songs is done instantly: even if the next song is in a different folder, there is no 2 to 3 seconds gap anymore.
 
Gapless works flawlessly (just like previous FW).
 
USB DAC works fine, no need to re install the driver.
 
A few bugs in the French translation (Haut should be AigusBas should be Graves for exemple).
 
Pros:
  • Brighter sound (with more dynamics)
  • Better mids (voices brought into the front of the stage)
  • Easy to navigate (as before)
  • Instant song switching (no more gaps between tracks)
  • Gapless works flawlessly
  • USB DAC works flawlessly

Cons:
  • UI uses pictograms difficult to understand
  • EQ doesn't work for me

Even if the beta FW carries a few bugs, going back to previous FW is a No Go for me.
 
So hats off to FiiO team and many thanks for releasing the beta firmware.
post #9591 of 17129
The difference between the X3 and the new firmware X3 is = to the difference between the iPhone 4s and iPhone 5 lol.
post #9592 of 17129
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Originally Posted by Trunks159 View Post

The difference between the X3 and the new firmware X3 is = to the difference between the iPhone 4s and iPhone 5 lol.

 

I disagree.  I think it is more between iOS6 to iOS7.  It is an acquired taste between the 2 looks more then a complete hardware change like the iPhone 4s to iPhone 5. 

post #9593 of 17129
You're probably right, though ios 7 offers nothing more to me, except lower battery life.
post #9594 of 17129
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Originally Posted by Trunks159 View Post

The difference between the X3 and the new firmware X3 is = to the difference between the iPhone 4s and iPhone 5 lol.

That's ironic given that many prefer the sound of the 4S compared to the 5. 

 

In either case, I'm certainly a fan of the beta FW. It converted this head-fier to Team X3. If the play screen font/text issues could be resolved as well as playlist management, I'd be pretty dang satisfied with this DAP!

post #9595 of 17129
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Originally Posted by JamesFiiO View Post
 

I have FW 2.15beta at hand which fixed the volume issues and the cover display. but it is not a very stable fw and I don't want people discussing the bugs of the beta version to the public.

 

of course, other is ok to share with everyone , especially the new UI, new features.  so do you guys have any suggestion about the  " beta version test program " ?


I think the discussion in this thread of the 2.14 beta has been very posiitive. It has highlighted the benefits. Bugs are expected - it's a beta! - and people have pointed them out, so you can correct them. I don't think you have anything to fear from making the revisions public betas. Those who want to test will be able to do so and with bugs being reported to the thread can be confirmed by others rather than duplicated. Those who prefer to wait for an official release can see the progress being made. A changelog would be really welcome...

My X5 arrived today to coincide with the new firmware - doubly happy!


Edited by uzi2 - 4/28/14 at 10:33am
post #9596 of 17129
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Originally Posted by JamesFiiO View Post

I have FW 2.15beta at hand which fixed the volume issues and the cover display. but it is not a very stable fw and I don't want people discussing the bugs of the beta version to the public.

of course, other is ok to share with everyone , especially the new UI, new features.  so do you guys have any suggestion about the  " beta version test program " ?

Hi James, please count me in too for testing v2.15. Pretty happy with the changes so far! Thanks!
post #9597 of 17129
@James: why not continue the google group that's been created and used half a year ago for fw2.10? Whatever you decide, I'd like to participate again. Great work so far, only minor bugs detected (see bugzilla)!
post #9598 of 17129
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Originally Posted by nmatheis View Post


I didn't use it for my X3 mods and was eager to try it out this time but couldn't get past the boot and charging screens. When I hit "1" on my keyboard, I encountered fatal errors every time. Maybe you can give it a try and let me know if it was just a newbie mistake on my part.

I'm just glad the pack/unpack tools still work, so I can refine the UI! Fiio makes good DAPs, but their UI choices can use a bit of refinement...

Yup, I could get the charging/DAC screens and that was pretty much it. It showed the background for a bit then shut itself down.

Now that we can move the icons around (played a bit with this trying to make a text based system like the old firmware - it does work) it really would be nice to have a simulator to tweak positions. I did use litegui a fair bit making my other themes -trying different fonts, colors, etc., and now that there is more to change even better.

 

 

Put me down in the yes column for beta testing as well.....

Cheers.

post #9599 of 17129
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Originally Posted by Mr Trev View Post

Yup, I could get the charging/DAC screens and that was pretty much it. It showed the background for a bit then shut itself down.
Now that we can move the icons around (played a bit with this trying to make a text based system like the old firmware - it does work) it really would be nice to have a simulator to tweak positions. I did use litegui a fair bit making my other themes -trying different fonts, colors, etc., and now that there is more to change even better.


Put me down in the yes column for beta testing as well.....
Cheers.

Thanks for giving it a try. Too bad it doesn't work now! But again, I'm really glad the pack/unpack tools work, so I can make the UI flatter and less obtrusive!
post #9600 of 17129
Why not just opening a "Beta zone" thread in the FiiO board on this forum?
However, I'd like to be part of the beta testing of the future firmware versions...
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