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post #7516 of 17125
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Originally Posted by lostinthesauce View Post
 

For 240 USD (versus 399 USD for an equivalent 64GB iPod Touch) I can live with a 'difficult' UE.  Especially since the X3 can be used on any system as a mass storage device, plays back hi-res files (that are not locked into a single device's compatibility matrix), doubles as a DAC, etc.  But than again I exclusively run Linux and probably spend ~20% of the time in the CLI so my demands probably don't line up with those who say "Ooooh....shiny".

 

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Edited by Cannikin - 1/4/14 at 9:15pm
post #7517 of 17125
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Originally Posted by Unfie View Post
 
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By the way, I get this occasional error where my X3 stops being able to play files. It'll say something like "file format not supported." I fix this by restarting, but it's a little annoying.

I have had that happen a couple of times and each time the solution was to manually delete the database file and then do a manual update. That solved it for me.

post #7518 of 17125

Does anyone remember the Apple Newton? It was Apple's first attempt at a portable device in the days when the Palm Pilot was the gold standard. The UI was, to put it mildly, clunky. The software was also buggy--very buggy. It took Apple many years to figure out how to do a portable device right, and even the first iPhones were far from polished and bug-free--and that was in a closed eco-system.

 

I bought my first Apple device a year and a half ago, an iPhone 5. The size was perfect, the screen was beautiful, and the UI was quite usable (although to me, as a non-Apple person, it was very quirky and sometimes very frustrating). The point is, it took Apple many years to learn how to do portable right enough to win over someone like me.

 

A year later, I bought my X3 from a little company I had never heard of. The UI is limited and clunky, but as a user interface designer I know how hard it is to design a good experience for such a small screen with no touch capabilities. At the time, gapless playback didn't work--something very important to me--but I didn't have to wait long for a fix. I'm very impressed that the owner of FiiO takes time to participate in this thread, and acts on the user feedback he gets.

 

I've had exactly one incident of freezing in all the time I've been using the X3--no other negatives. On the positive side, the sound output of this little box--no bigger than a stack of business cards--is absolutely phenomenal. I love being able to play my HDTracks purchases and my personal hi-res needledrops in full fidelity.

 

I hate reading all the negative feedback and complaints here when I haven't experienced them myself. There's lots of room for improvement, but this is an incredible product for $200. Hell, I paid $350 for a good pair of earphones to go with it. The line-out alone makes my car stereo sound like I did a $500 upgrade.

 

I'm going to spend less time here in this thread, and more time enjoying my X3. I hope the complainers eventually learn to appreciate what they've got despite the X3's minor shortcomings.


Edited by jkauff - 1/4/14 at 6:39pm
post #7519 of 17125

your honesty and directness are refreshing...

post #7520 of 17125
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Originally Posted by Cannikin View Post
 

 

Which points to the subtext of this discussion: everything pivots around User Experience, and if UE is difficult/crippled/tedious and/or problematic, everything else is secondary. If something seems easier to use - whether it is only an illusion conjured by some software trickery - then it is easier to use; how it arrived at "easier/faster/less complicated" is irrelevant. Just my opinion, as an end user.

 

I'm not about to give up on my X3 - I will learn to use it and appreciate it for what it is. But that doesn't mean I won't still regard the UE as "a compromise".


Different people have different priorities.  For some it's the sound, for others it's the UI, etc....

The X3's UI has room for improvement, and some area of the UI really annoy me but it is not too bad and far from "difficult/crippled/tedious and /or problematic".

 

If the UI is an absolute top priority for you then the X3 will not meet your requirement and could be a deal breaker.


Edited by Musiccc - 1/5/14 at 3:13pm
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Hi all, i just got my x3 for about 2weeks plus. Have been using it daily to commute to workplace etc. Never remember any incident whereby i dropped my x3 or knocking against any hard surfaces...however, realised this happened today.

Anyone knows how to fix this???
post #7522 of 17125

I would contact Fiio and see if they repair or if they would sell a screen to you.

post #7523 of 17125
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Originally Posted by Cannikin View Post

......................................................................................................................................................................................................., but I can't help feeling like I got what I paid for: a $200 experience, when what I want is the $700 - $1200 experience.

 

You want a $700 - $1200 experience but you bought a $200 device.  Perhaps your expectations were to high and hence your disappointment.

 

BTW:  I paid about $200 for the X3 but I got $350 experience.  ;)


Edited by Musiccc - 1/5/14 at 3:25pm
post #7524 of 17125
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Originally Posted by Musiccc View Post
 

You want a $700 - $1200 experience BUT you bought a $200 device?

 

BTW:  I paid about $200 for the X3 but I got $350 experience.


How wonderful for you! :-)

post #7525 of 17125
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Originally Posted by Za Warudo View Post
 

My biggest problem with the X3 is the battery life.  One charge gives me 8-9 hours (closer to 8) instead of the advertised 10 hours.  I wish they made the battery user-replaceable as well so you can just swap a fresh battery if it runs out.

You can always carry a small power bank with you to charge the X3 in case it runs out of battery.

 

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Originally Posted by Za Warudo View Post
 

No, but I'll like to not have to charge it every other day, especially when it takes like 6 hours to charge it.

 

You can cut charging time into 4 hours by using an iPad charger (2.1A) with the stock USB cable. But of course if it takes 6 hours, you can perhaps consider charging it when you are in bed and it would be full when you're up! You'll just have to find ways to charge it when you're not using it so that charging the device won't interfere with listening to your music. :)

post #7526 of 17125
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Originally Posted by Musiccc View Post
 

You want a $700 - $1200 experience BUT you bought a $200 device?

 

BTW:  I paid about $200 for the X3 but I got $350 experience.

 $350 experience !!!!! Very precise man :cool: ....what is the 350 $ experience ???!!!  :D why not 400 ? why not 450 ? i expect from mine -when it arrives - from 400 t0 500 $ sound quality ...just behind ak100 and for my se535 and as a one box solution & the hardware eq which i appreciate too much  it would be better ( talking about the sound only ) and BTW i don't expect that fiio would be very painful in use ..lets wait and see :rolleyes: 

 

EDIT : OH forgot about the x5 !!! mmmmm....but i think the x5 may not necessarily better in sq than x3 specially with normal FLACs .....may be a more neutral sound ? 


Edited by Mmet - 1/5/14 at 1:55am
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  I am fairly new to this forum although I have read quite a bit. I have enjoyed listening to music on various players for a long time now but I could never be considered an audiophile however.....for the last couple of years I have been listening to my collection on a 5th generation I-pod classic, the content being in alac format until last year I purchased a HTC one mobile phone. I loaded some of my music on it in flac format. My headphones at the time were beats HD (how embarrassing in hindsight) but, despite this, this was my eureka moment, the output was infinitely better than anything from any portable device that I had ever owned and a massive improvement on the 'beautiful' Apple device. At this moment I realised that there was a much better experience out there for me.

  At this stage, I would like to re-iterate that the HTC one has, in my opinion, the best sound to eminate from any mobile phone out there (Beats 'en-hancement' turned off of course) and it plays flac natively.

  To cut to the chase, 2 weeks ago, I purchased an x3 and some Sony mdr-1r headphones and all I can say is WOW. To hell with the slightly clunky but perfectly adequate interface (I bought this for the SQ) My life has now changed forever.

  On a sidenote. For those complaining about the battery life, I am not a particularly busy man but I am still hard pushed to find 8 hours in a day that I can devote to my new favourite hobby and, I find the time that I set aside for sleeping during the night a perfect window of opportunity to recharge my baby's batteries. ;)

post #7528 of 17125
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Originally Posted by Mmet View Post

 $350 experience !!!!! Very precise man cool.gif  ....what is the 350 $ experience ???!!!  biggrin.gif  why not 400 ? why not 450 ? i expect from mine -when it arrives - from 400 t0 500 $ sound quality ...just behind ak100 and for my se535 and as a one box solution & the hardware eq which i appreciate too much  it would be better ( talking about the sound only ) and BTW i don't expect that fiio would be very painful in use ..lets wait and see rolleyes.gif  

What I've realized now should have been obvious to me ten days ago: I've got a bad unit. Unfortunately I can't return it, since it's too late to request a return from Amazon.

-My device freezes and/or crashes every time I use it
-it won't display artwork I KNOW is there. It's inconsistent; sometimes it displays an album's artwork, sometimes not. (I'm talking about the same album, viewed at different times)
-with some albums it adds another copy of each song to the track list every time I manually rebuild the library (automatic doesn't work)
-several purchased HDtracks items don't play correctly (skips part way through the track, sometimes skipping two tracks ahead)
-it still lists files that I've removed from the TF card.

Before you decide to fire back an indignant, outraged response, please note that none of these issues has anything to do with the UI. So rather than just being angry at me for spouting "Apple Talk", I'd much rather receive suggestions aimed at fixing the problems I'm experiencing. Thank you.
post #7529 of 17125
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Originally Posted by Cannikin View Post


What I've realized now should have been obvious to me ten days ago: I've got a bad unit. Unfortunately I can't return it, since it's too late to request a return from Amazon.
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Contact Amazon for an exchange. Bad unit is covered by warranty so they are obligated to help you out. If they really did refuse for an exchange, then try contacting FiiO directly as they will definitely help you out.

post #7530 of 17125
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Originally Posted by ClieOS View Post

Contact Amazon for an exchange. Bad unit is covered by warranty so they are obligated to help you out. If they really did refuse for an exchange, then try contacting FiiO directly as they will definitely help you out.

So you also think I've got a defective unit?
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