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post #5656 of 17129
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Originally Posted by jkauff View Post
 

James,

 

Sorry so few Chinese are interested in gapless, but in the U.S. we have a free subscription service called DimeADozen that hosts torrents of live music shows (but only in cases where the artist permits distribution). I have 1.5 TB of live shows, all of which must be played gapless. This is a very important aspect of the X3 for your U.S. customers, and I'm glad to hear the problems are being addressed in the upcoming firmware update.

 

One use I've found for my X3 is connecting the line out to the AUX port on my car stereo. It makes my Honda Accord factory unit sound like it got a $1000 upgrade. Thank you so much for including an excellent amp in the X3.

I would be interested in knowing why users in Asia don't want or need gapless playback. Even if they don't listen to live recordings, don't they listen to classical music either? I was very surprised to read that gapless playback or the lack thereof could be a cultural based phenomena.

post #5657 of 17129
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Originally Posted by good sound View Post

I would be interested in knowing why users in Asia don't want or need gapless playback. Even if they don't listen to live recordings, don't they listen to classical music either? I was very surprised to read that gapless playback or the lack thereof could be a cultural based phenomena.

Yeah, I found this weird too. I also found it weird how they have their titles sorted by track number instead of by name. The given response was that chinese users dont need track numbers. But the problem with this is, "do chinese people not buy cd's?" No matter how you look at it, the sorting method used in category view makes no sense. I'd classify it as a bug. It also doesnt have fringe scenarios taken into account, for example tracks that are 1 2 3 4 vs 01 02 03 04. It also seems to sort by CHARACTER value instead of NUMERIC value. IE sometimes it will list the track number 10 and 11 way up by track 1. If its 0 padded this isnt a problem, but that should not need to happen. ESPECIALLY if they are sorting by the ID3 tag track number instead of the file name track number. What that tells me is that they are sorting by checking individual characters rather than by treating groups of characters as a number.
post #5658 of 17129
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Originally Posted by JamesFiiO View Post

1. Slow response going from track to track. Its very annoying because sometimes it doesn't respond so I press more times and then I skip too many tracks.

We can addressed the problem cause it is not happened every time and we need the whole music files to help us address it . I means , we can only solve problem/bugs which we can find the law ( maybe it is not a suitable word .

thanks in advance if anyone can send the music files to us, you can contact us by support@fiio.net

From my experience this issue is not file specific. When listening to a song and pressing next, this is what I see:

Listening to song
Press next track button
Song will immediately stop playing
2 to 3 second or so pause before the next track plays

If you advance multiple tracks at once (pressing next multiple times) this time will add up for each press.
post #5659 of 17129
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Originally Posted by ngs428 View Post

From my experience this issue is not file specific. When listening to a song and pressing next, this is what I see:

Listening to song
Press next track button
Song will immediately stop playing
2 to 3 second or so pause before the next track plays

If you advance multiple tracks at once (pressing next multiple times) this time will add up for each press.

Confirmed. Just tried this on Alive 2007. The player completely locks up during track switching for about 2-3 seconds. The button presses are registered and executed. So if I press the forward track button like 3 times it will go Pause current track, switch to new track, wait 2-3 seconds, switch to new track, wait 2-3 seconds, switch, wait, and finally play.

EDIT: tried it with FLAC.
post #5660 of 17129
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Originally Posted by shrimants View Post

Confirmed. Just tried this on Alive 2007. The player completely locks up during track switching for about 2-3 seconds. The button presses are registered and executed. So if I press the forward track button like 3 times it will go Pause current track, switch to new track, wait 2-3 seconds, switch to new track, wait 2-3 seconds, switch, wait, and finally play.

EDIT: tried it with FLAC.

I experienced this with FLAC and MP3. Your explanation is exactly how I see it too.
post #5661 of 17129
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Originally Posted by good sound View Post
 

I would be interested in knowing why users in Asia don't want or need gapless playback. Even if they don't listen to live recordings, don't they listen to classical music either? I was very surprised to read that gapless playback or the lack thereof could be a cultural based phenomena.

 

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Originally Posted by shrimants View Post

Yeah, I found this weird too.

 

I find that weird too, given in our local forums "lesser" players having gapless makes not having it a deal breaker for many if a "serious" player - for which it is foreseeable that it will be used for classical and live recordings - doesn't have it.

 

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Originally Posted by shrimants View Post


I also found it weird how they have their titles sorted by track number instead of by name. The given response was that chinese users dont need track numbers. But the problem with this is, "do chinese people not buy cd's?" No matter how you look at it, the sorting method used in category view makes no sense. I'd classify it as a bug. It also doesnt have fringe scenarios taken into account, for example tracks that are 1 2 3 4 vs 01 02 03 04. It also seems to sort by CHARACTER value instead of NUMERIC value. IE sometimes it will list the track number 10 and 11 way up by track 1. If its 0 padded this isnt a problem, but that should not need to happen. ESPECIALLY if they are sorting by the ID3 tag track number instead of the file name track number. What that tells me is that they are sorting by checking individual characters rather than by treating groups of characters as a number.

 

Given the level of music piracy going on in most parts of East Asia (with the exception of Japan and Singapore), with fake physical CDs almost literally everywhere - which includes compilations of chart-topping singles in addition to albums - that might explain the different preferences. By contrast, not only did I grow up buying entire albums, but some of these are thematic concept albums or otherwise just the artist's sound varying enough from one album to the next, so I not only archive them in album folders but also browse using these folders. I only have one custom playlist and that's for putting all my favorite test tracks in one list, useful only during meets. I haven't used an X3 yet but the whole idea of Category View from what I've seen on this thread still confuses me.

 

As for numbering, I still put a zero before each single digit - I've used a few players in the past that put 10 next to 1 and since that time I've been using the zero. It's been a long time but given it's SOP to me by now I haven't deliberately tried to number tracks differently just to see if it works differently.

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Quality and features come in a really small package: this setup is "on-the-go&office" mobile Nirvana! :D

post #5663 of 17129
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Originally Posted by ngs428 View Post

I experienced this with FLAC and MP3. Your explanation is exactly how I see it too.
True, I have learned to push next than wait tell it starts to play than go to the next song etc. til I find the one I want.
post #5664 of 17129
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Originally Posted by JamesFiiO View Post
 

 

1. Slow response going from track to track. Its very annoying because sometimes it doesn't respond so I press more times and then I skip too many tracks.

 

We can addressed the problem cause it is not happened every time and we need the whole music files to help us address it . I means , we can only solve problem/bugs which we can find the law ( maybe it is not a suitable word .

 

thanks in advance if anyone can send the music files to us, you can contact us by support@fiio.net

 

 

 

Thanks for responding. This is really the only big remaining problem with the X3 so I hope it can be fixed.

 

All of my files are MP3 VBR 0 ripped from FLAC using foobar and LAME. And it happens with all the files. I'll send one if that's helpful.

post #5665 of 17129
I am Chinese and I care about album concept (track order), gapless playback and access different albums of a same artist, but I tend to focus on the positives of playing highres files on portable device, small form factor, reasonable priced, compatible with most iems and manafacturer who spends effort to give away bonus features.
post #5666 of 17129
I have noticed the same issue forward or backwards through albums. I wonder if the buffer is just so full that it has to purge it and refill with bytes from the next track? If so perhaps a a slightly smaller buffer value can be chosen; would reduce the time that it takes to purge and refill but doesn't fix the underlying issue which I assume would be a major revamp requiring a type of fade where the next song gets buffered in...or perhaps with gapless working everywhere with the new firmware it wouldn't be so hard to implement.
post #5667 of 17129

Just wanted to let everyone know here that the advertised "real leather protective case" being shown in the above photo appears not to be genuine leather but in fact "pleather" or bonded leather. I ordered one and you could tell immediately not only by the rubber smell but by looking at it. I also separated a piece and it was obvious the piece I separated was bonded fake leather. Very disappointed considering the cost.  I really like Fiio products and the X3 is a great digital player. They should not advertise the case as (genuine leather) if it isn't. I did check on the Fiio webpage to make sure it wasn't counterfeit. Hope this helps others that are thinking about purchasing this case. If you don't mind paying that much for bonded pleather it will protect the player.


Edited by glockhit - 10/12/13 at 10:41am
post #5668 of 17129
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Originally Posted by glockhit View Post
 

Just wanted to let everyone know here that the advertised "real leather protective case" being shown in the above photo appears not to be genuine leather but in fact "pleather" or bonded leather. I ordered one and you could tell immediately not only by the rubber smell but by looking at it. I also separated a piece and it was obvious the piece I separated was bonded fake leather. Very disappointed considering the cost.  I really like Fiio products and the FX3 is a great digital player. They should not advertise the case as (genuine leather) if it isn't. I did check on the Fiio webpage to make sure it wasn't counterfeit. Hope this helps others that are thinking about purchasing this case. If you don't mind paying that much for bonded pleather it will protect the player.

Thanks for the warning. I love my X3 but would be disappointed to receive a pleather case for it.

post #5669 of 17129
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Originally Posted by Stuff Jones View Post
 

This is really the only big remaining problem with the X3 

 

Sorry, no.   Inability to properly index a 64GB card is still a problem as well.

post #5670 of 17129
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Originally Posted by glockhit View Post
 

Just wanted to let everyone know here that the advertised "real leather protective case" being shown in the above photo appears not to be genuine leather but in fact "pleather" or bonded leather. I ordered one and you could tell immediately not only by the rubber smell but by looking at it. I also separated a piece and it was obvious the piece I separated was bonded fake leather. Very disappointed considering the cost.  I really like Fiio products and the X3 is a great digital player. They should not advertise the case as (genuine leather) if it isn't. I did check on the Fiio webpage to make sure it wasn't counterfeit. Hope this helps others that are thinking about purchasing this case. If you don't mind paying that much for bonded pleather it will protect the player.

That's good to know. It is not cheap at all, considering it is not leather. But I suppose it is still way better than the silicone case.

 

Where did you buy it from, by the way?

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