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Mother of Google Translate, however it worked more or less. Thank you buddy beerchug.gif

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Did I just read something about dual TF card support in there for the x5?
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Received the X3 a few hours ago, so here is the promised first impression:

 

Let get the obvious out of the way -

1) Does X3 sound good?

Yes.

 

2) How good it is?

Still a bit too early to say for sure, but on rough comparison, it is better than Nano 7G, Clip+ and Fuze. I'll put it at around the same level as HiSound Nova 3. One thing that is noticeably better on X3 is the power amp section, which is very tight and well controlled.

 

3) How good exactly is the amp section?

I plugged my new JDS Labs C5 to the line-out and compare it to the headphone-out, then realize I didn't really get much improvement from the C5. Even O2 is not that much of an improvement either. You really can go amp-less with X3 and be perfectly happy. Output impedance is about 0.4ohm btw.

 

4) Any major bug?

None that I have noticed. There is one occasion that the player fail to resume after stopping and switch to another menu, but a restart fixed it and I can't reproduce problem again.

 

5) Cover art?

Yes, it is there for the mp3 files, but not on the wma files. Haven't tested other files type yet.

 

6) Gapless and resume after restart?

All yes.

 

7) How is the GUI?

Pretty straight forward. It is not an iPod, but it is close enough.

 

8) How is the screen?

Not a particularly high resolution screen, but good enough for cover art to look decent on it. The color of the screen is however on the blueish, colder side, and could use a bit more saturation. But it is not for video so nothing really to complain about.

 

9) How is the control?

Will need some getting used to for the buttons arrangement / position, but nothing too difficult to learn.

 

10) Anything to complain about?

None so far. I am really impressed. I never really expect it to outperform Nano 7G or Clip+, but it does. The GUI and control are also some of the smoothest from any Chinese DAP I have tried. The only minor complain I have will be the ID3 tag reading, which isn't perfect but work most of the time.

 

11) How is the TF card support?

64GB SDXC formatted to FAT32 works without any problem. There are about 7GB of usable memory on board if you wonder.


Edited by ClieOS - 4/26/13 at 7:07am
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Thanks ClieOS!!! WooHoo!!! This is looking SPECTACULAR!!!cool.gif
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Thanks ClieOS! Now excuse me while I geek out. This is great news!
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For those of you who are more interested in Fiio X5, I have provided a much better translation of the relevant part of that review article that Fiio linked to: http://erji.net/read.php?tid=1450426

You can find it in this new "Fiio X5 thread" here:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/661411/fiio-x5-thread
Edited by zzffnn - 4/26/13 at 8:52am
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OMG. Now I'm officially hyped :-) L3000.gif

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Looking pretty good! I'll probably look into getting the x3 once my wallet recovers from purchasing the UERM. But by that time, the x5 will probably be out. The x5 is more appealing, but maybe I'll settle with the x3 while I wait for the x5.
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Originally Posted by thegunner100 View Post

Looking pretty good! I'll probably look into getting the x3 once my wallet recovers from purchasing the UERM. But by that time, the x5 will probably be out. The x5 is more appealing, but maybe I'll settle with the x3 while I wait for the x5.

Pretty nice choice of CIEMs, they are in my dream list for future etysmile.gif

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It is expected that 128GB micro sd cards roll out in a few months. That would offer lots of space.

I personally dont even use 6GB as my portable music is all encoded as mp3 lame. But I can tell some wantto go full flac, wave, etc etc.
post #551 of 11725
Quote:
Originally Posted by ClieOS View Post

Received the X3 a few hours ago, so here is the promised first impression:

 

Let get the obvious out of the way -

1) Does X3 sound good?

Yes.

 

2) How good it is?

Still a bit too early to say for sure, but on rough comparison, it is better than Nano 7G, Clip+ and Fuze. I'll put it at around the same level as HiSound Nova 3. One thing that is noticeably better on X3 is the power amp section, which is very tight and well controlled.

 

3) How good exactly is the amp section?

I plugged my new JDS Labs C5 to the line-out and compare it to the headphone-out, then realize I didn't really get much improvement from the C5. Even O2 is not that much of an improvement either. You really can go amp-less with X3 and be perfectly happy. Output impedance is about 0.4ohm btw.

 

4) Any major bug?

None that I have noticed. There is one occasion that the player fail to resume after stopping and switch to another menu, but a restart fixed it and I can't reproduce problem again.

 

5) Cover art?

Yes, it is there for the mp3 files, but not on the wma files. Haven't tested other files type yet.

 

6) Gapless and resume after restart?

All yes.

 

7) How is the GUI?

Pretty straight forward. It is not an iPod, but it is close enough.

 

8) How is the screen?

Not a particularly high resolution screen, but good enough for cover art to look decent on it. The color of the screen is however on the blueish, colder side, and could use a bit more saturation. But it is not for video so nothing really to complain about.

 

9) How is the control?

Will need some getting used to for the buttons arrangement / position, but nothing too difficult to learn.

 

10) Anything to complain about?

None so far. I am really impressed. I never really expect it to outperform Nano 7G or Clip+, but it does. The GUI and control are also some of the smoothest from any Chinese DAP I have tried. The only minor complain I have will be the ID3 tag reading, which isn't perfect but work most of the time.

 

11) How is the TF card support?

64GB SDXC formatted to FAT32 works without any problem. There are about 7GB of usable memory on board if you wonder.

Thanx a lot.

What headphones or IEMs were You using that didn't require an external amp?

Could  I use my HD 595 (50 Ohm) - but not the DT 880 (250 Ohm) - with the X3 without an external amp.

I hope that the X3 sounds much better than my  Clip+.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ClieOS View Post

Received the X3 a few hours ago, so here is the promised first impression:

 

......

 

3) How good exactly is the amp section?

I plugged my new JDS Labs C5 to the line-out and compare it to the headphone-out, then realize I didn't really get much improvement from the C5. Even O2 is not that much of an improvement either. You really can go amp-less with X3 and be perfectly happy. Output impedance is about 0.4ohm btw.

 

........

 

Thanks ClieOS for your impression. You indicated that X3's headphone amp section is not that much less compared to JDS C5 or O2 plugged into X3's line out. That is some high praise there.

 

I am guessing that you were using portable earphones/IEMs when you made that observation? Did you also try X3 with full size headphones (e.g., your ATH-AD700, FA-003, HE-300)? Also do you prefer X3's firmware over that of Hifiman HM-801 and HM-602? Thanks again.

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Originally Posted by zzffnn View Post

 

Thanks ClieOS for your impression. You indicated that X3's headphone amp section is not that much less compared to JDS C5 or O2 plugged into X3's line out. That is some high praise there.

 

I am guessing that you were using portable earphones/IEMs when you made that observation? Did you also try X3 with full size headphones (e.g., your ATH-AD700, FA-003, HE-300)? Also do you prefer X3's firmware over that of Hifiman HM-801 and HM-602? Thanks again.

I wonder how does the X3 compare to the HM-602 ($249) soundwise?

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Hi,

Looking good for the X3, still holding off on buying a DAP in anticipation of the X3, last player I had was a Zen Vision M 30gb that I gave away to someone and been using a borrowed iPod Touch since.

I have an O2+Odac and seems like I might not even need that now, although I use Senn HD650's so they might not drive well with the X3?

Mike.
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Originally Posted by JakeJack_2008 View Post

Thanx a lot.

What headphones or IEMs were You using that didn't require an external amp?

Could  I use my HD 595 (50 Ohm) - but not the DT 880 (250 Ohm) - with the X3 without an external amp.

I hope that the X3 sounds much better than my  Clip+.

Anything E17 can drive, X3 will drive it as well. It should drive HD595 without a problem. I don't know much about DT880-250 to say for sure but likely it will reach enough volume. Note that the ability to drive high impedance load has more to do with the voltage swing, and X3 can push out over 3V on high gain, which is quite loud. Whether that will be enough or not depends more on the sensitivity of the headphone.

 

 

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Originally Posted by zzffnn View Post

 

Thanks ClieOS for your impression. You indicated that X3's headphone amp section is not that much less compared to JDS C5 or O2 plugged into X3's line out. That is some high praise there.

 

I am guessing that you were using portable earphones/IEMs when you made that observation? Did you also try X3 with full size headphones (e.g., your ATH-AD700, FA-003, HE-300)? Also do you prefer X3's firmware over that of Hifiman HM-801 and HM-602? Thanks again.

 

I always use the same IEM to evaluate source and amp, so this is not a problem on IEM vs. full size, but the variation between different source and amps shown on the same set of IEM. That is, the same kind of difference will show up on the same set of headphone as well. The process is to eliminate the all other factors beside what I want to observe. I am not trying to listen to the chance of synergy (unless there is some noticeable coloration that need to be considered), but overall tightness and power. These perimeters don't usually change with load. What is tight and well control won't just 'lose it' on another load.

 

Yes, I do prefer X3 firmware over HM801. As I have said, it isn't anything fancy but it is functional. At least it read ID3 Tag better than HM801 and has cover art, but it is still far from perfect.

 

 

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Originally Posted by JakeJack_2008 View Post

I wonder how does the X3 compare to the HM-602 ($249) soundwise?

 

They are very comparable. I doubt most will be able to tell (or strongly prefer) one from the other in brief listening.

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