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Originally Posted by alphabetagaga View Post

thank you fiio and thank you firmware 1.31! my problem is now fixed and i love my x3 again! beyersmile.png

Lucky and Unhappy? wink.gif
post #5042 of 17125
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Originally Posted by tjw321 View Post

You need it for 64GB cards. Windows formats anything bigger than 32GB to exFAT but you need fat32. 32GB or less you don't need it (in fact, you shouldn't need to format those at all...only those which are bigger than 32GB need re-formatting).

thanks for the explanation
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Edited by sbradley02 - 9/11/13 at 9:46am
post #5044 of 17125
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Originally Posted by good sound View Post
 

I know I probably shouldn't feed the troll, but you're reading an inference in James remarks that simply is not there. Nowhere does he say that burn in does not make an audible difference and nowhere does he say it does. In fact one particular part of that post from James, "the burn in help(s) to improve some spec of the capacitor" would actually suggest that burn in does improve or at least change the sound in some way, or do you think that improving the spec of the capacitors won't at least change the sound if not make it better? In any event that is all I have to say on the matter. I am not going to get dragged into a long drawn out argument with you concerning this.


I don't think too many people are really going to change the way they believe one way or another based on my observation.  A belief is just that, it's based on an acceptance of truth.

 

I was making an observation about the phenomenon of habituation as demonstrated to me by my cuckoo clock.  I then made an inference that the burn in belief may actually be rooted more in psychology than in electronics.

 

Just an observation and inference, nothing less or more.  It might give someone with an open mind something to ponder.

 

Anyway it has given me something to think about in the last few days since we got our cuckoo clock back.  

 

Not a troll, just filling time while finalizing the agonizing choice of the DX50 versus the X3.

post #5045 of 17125

i couldt format my 64 gig card with windows 8. i had to use linux

post #5046 of 17125
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Originally Posted by shrimants View Post

i use mp3tag to get album art. It downloads after a quick search in decently high quality (500x500 is the most i ever bother with). Its just a pain considering the number of albums i have and maybe 3 of them actually have any art on them. All my flac files are properly tagged, just my mp3's arent.

BTW, i dont have the funds right now for a 64 gig card so i keep all my flac files as an mp3 copy. Do you guys know of a tool that will keep that stuff mirrored in mp3 format? I have some mp3 and mostly flac in my main library, but id like to transfer everything as mp3. a rule like "if mp3, copy it over, else if flac convert to 320kbps mp3 and transfer over, delete mp3 copy" would work out.

 

I use Musicbee to manage my tunes, and it does have an option for converting formats on the fly. I still haven't got my X3 yet (never underestimate the incompetence of Canada Post) to confirm that it shows as a device in MB, but the SD card in my laptop's card reader does show as device. All you gotta do is set how you want to convert in the device options and you're good to go - I use it to convert flac to mp3/aac for my Sony mp3. (It also does artwork too)

Musicbee comes in a portable version too, so you don't need to do a full install, and I find it way easier to use than Foobar.

Cheers.

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Originally Posted by good sound View Post
 

I know I probably shouldn't feed the troll, but you're reading an inference in James remarks that simply is not there. Nowhere does he say that burn in does not make an audible difference and nowhere does he say it does. In fact one particular part of that post from James, "the burn in help(s) to improve some spec of the capacitor" would actually suggest that burn in does improve or at least change the sound in some way, or do you think that improving the spec of the capacitors won't at least change the sound if not make it better? In any event that is all I have to say on the matter. I am not going to get dragged into a long drawn out argument with you concerning this.


I don't think too many people are really going to change the way they believe one way or another based on my observation.  A belief is just that, it's based on an acceptance of truth.

 

I was making an observation about the phenomenon of habituation as demonstrated to me by my cuckoo clock.  I then made an inference that the burn in belief may actually be rooted more in psychology than in electronics.

 

Just an observation and inference, nothing less or more.  It might give someone with an open mind something to ponder.

 

Anyway it has given me something to think about in the last few days since we got our cuckoo clock back.  

 

Not a troll, just filling time while finalizing the agonizing choice of the DX50 versus the X3.

 

This was a very thoughtful and measured response. I applaud you.

post #5048 of 17125
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Originally Posted by Mr Trev View Post

I use Musicbee to manage my tunes, and it does have an option for converting formats on the fly. I still haven't got my X3 yet (never underestimate the incompetence of Canada Post) to confirm that it shows as a device in MB, but the SD card in my laptop's card reader does show as device. All you gotta do is set how you want to convert in the device options and you're good to go - I use it to convert flac to mp3/aac for my Sony mp3. (It also does artwork too)
Musicbee comes in a portable version too, so you don't need to do a full install, and I find it way easier to use than Foobar.
Cheers.

Yeah I use music bee too. I like that you can specify your converter, though I wish there was some error checking for skipping and stuff. I am only not sure if it will simply transfer the stuff I already have that's mp3 or if it will explicitly convert every file regardless of starting format.
post #5049 of 17125
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Originally Posted by shrimants View Post


Yeah I use music bee too. I like that you can specify your converter, though I wish there was some error checking for skipping and stuff. I am only not sure if it will simply transfer the stuff I already have that's mp3 or if it will explicitly convert every file regardless of starting format.

 

If I remember correctly there is a setting to only convert lossless formats.

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Just a quick shot of my new at work rig. X3 + E12 + XBA3ip. The E12 is overkill and obviously I'm not using it with the IEMs but I keep it attached for when I hook up the big dogs.


Edited by Vidmaven - 9/11/13 at 12:54pm
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I just wanted to let everyone know that I have been in contact with FiiO support over the last couple of days and they have rectified my issue. It took a couple of different approaches to finally get the right one, but FiiO support came through with flying colours. This is truly outstanding customer service. You can call me a Fanboy if you like and I will just simply nod my head in agreement. Their responses were always timely, polite, apologetic,and in concise proper and plain English. Much better than I can write myself, in my own native tongue. James certainly knows how to, or has hired someone who knows how to pick the right people to represent his company. Outstanding Job. It's this type of customer service that separates the merely good companies from the truly great ones. It's not always just about having the product being perfect at the time of launch, it's just as much about how a company handles their customers and in particular the early adopters after issues have been discovered. When viewing things in this light i have to say that in my humble opinion FiiO is a great company. That's right, Fanboy. Deal with it.

 

Just a quick re-cap and description of the problem and resolution. 

 

As most of you who have been following this thread know, I have been having an issue with accessing files through the Categories menu of the X3. I could only see and access files that were on the internal memory but not files that were on my external disk(micro SD card). After several back and forth communications with Ema from FiiO support I have finally, well they finally solved this issue. It turned out that in the formatting of the internal memory of the X3 the setting for allocation was much too low. It was set at just over 4,000 bytes. This was the default setting by my operating system, so not FiiO's fault. I switched it over to 32 kilobytes and voila, problem solved. I can now view all of the files loaded onto m y X3 from the categories menu, Album, Artist and Genre. To say I am ecstatic would be an understatement.

 

So if anyone else is having an issue viewing files located on the SD card when going through the Categories menu, and is running Windows, hook up your X3 to your PC with the USB cable right click the internal memory and go into "Format" Once in the format box you will see a drop down for "Allocation" Make sure it is set to 32 kiloobytes, then re-format the internal memory, which yes, will erase any of the music files that are already on it, and you should be all set.


Edited by good sound - 9/11/13 at 12:57pm
post #5052 of 17125
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Originally Posted by good sound View Post

I just wanted to let everyone know that I have been in contact with FiiO support over the last couple of days and they have rectified my issue. It took a couple of different approaches to finally get the right one, but FiiO support came through with flying colours. This is truly outstanding customer service. You can call me a Fanboy if you like and I will just simply nod my head in agreement. Their responses were always timely, polite, apologetic,and in concise proper and plain English. Much better than I can write myself, in my own native tongue. James certainly knows how to, or has hired someone who knows how to pick the right people to represent his company. Outstanding Job. It's this type of customer service that separates the merely good companies from the truly great ones. It's not always just about having the product being perfect at the time of launch, it's just as much about how a company handles their customers and in particular the early adopters after issues have been discovered. When viewing things in this light i have to say that in my humble opinion FiiO is a great company. That's right, Fanboy. Deal with it.

Just a quick re-cap and description of the problem and resolution. 

As most of you who have been following this thread know, I have been having an issue with accessing files through the Categories menu of the X3. I could only see and access files that were on the internal memory but not files that were on my external disk(micro SD card). After several back and forth communications with Ema from FiiO support I have finally, well they finally solved this issue. It turned out that in the formatting of the internal memory of the X3 the setting for allocation was much too low. It was set at just over 4,000 bytes. This was the default setting by my operating system, so not FiiO's fault. I switched it over to 32 kilobytes and voila, problem solved. I can now view all of the files loaded onto m y X3 from the categories menu, Album, Artist and Genre. To say I am ecstatic would be an understatement.

So if anyone else is having an issue viewing files located on the SD card when going through the Categories menu, and is running Windows, hook up your X3 to your PC with the USB cable right click the internal memory and go into "Format" Once in the format box you will see a drop down for "Allocation" Make sure it is set to 32 kiloobytes, then re-format the internal memory, which yes, will erase any of the music files that are already on it, and you should be all set.

This got me to do a bit of research for the benefit of the community. use this rule of thumb when setting file allocation cluster size during card formatting:
Code:
Partition size           Cluster size
   -------------------------------------
   512 MB to 8,191 MB          4 KB
   8,192 MB to 16,383 MB       8 KB
   16,384 MB to 32,767 MB     16 KB
   Larger than 32,768 MB      32 KB

Source: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/192322

And for the techies like me, more information about the limitations of FAT32 (under XP) can be found here:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314463

Personally, if XP doesnt support it, I wouldnt bother trying it. For example, if win7 gives you some extra FAT32 options that it can kind of get around, i'd not bother using those "helpful" features as in this case they may bite you in the butt.
Edited by shrimants - 9/11/13 at 1:22pm
post #5053 of 17125
James, any update on that "use X3 as a USB DAC" functionality? Can you give us an inside peek on what discussion (if any) has happened?

If you guys actually manage to pull that off, i'm going to have the biggest engineering stiffy....
post #5054 of 17125
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Originally Posted by good sound View Post
 

I just wanted to let everyone know that I have been in contact with FiiO support over the last couple of days and they have rectified my issue. It took a couple of different approaches to finally get the right one, but FiiO support came through with flying colours. This is truly outstanding customer service. You can call me a Fanboy if you like and I will just simply nod my head in agreement. Their responses were always timely, polite, apologetic,and in concise proper and plain English. Much better than I can write myself, in my own native tongue. James certainly knows how to, or has hired someone who knows how to pick the right people to represent his company. Outstanding Job. It's this type of customer service that separates the merely good companies from the truly great ones. It's not always just about having the product being perfect at the time of launch, it's just as much about how a company handles their customers and in particular the early adopters after issues have been discovered. When viewing things in this light i have to say that in my humble opinion FiiO is a great company. That's right, Fanboy. Deal with it.

 

Just a quick re-cap and description of the problem and resolution. 

 

As most of you who have been following this thread know, I have been having an issue with accessing files through the Categories menu of the X3. I could only see and access files that were on the internal memory but not files that were on my external disk(micro SD card). After several back and forth communications with Ema from FiiO support I have finally, well they finally solved this issue. It turned out that in the formatting of the internal memory of the X3 the setting for allocation was much too low. It was set at just over 4,000 bytes. This was the default setting by my operating system, so not FiiO's fault. I switched it over to 32 kilobytes and voila, problem solved. I can now view all of the files loaded onto m y X3 from the categories menu, Album, Artist and Genre. To say I am ecstatic would be an understatement.

 

So if anyone else is having an issue viewing files located on the SD card when going through the Categories menu, and is running Windows, hook up your X3 to your PC with the USB cable right click the internal memory and go into "Format" Once in the format box you will see a drop down for "Allocation" Make sure it is set to 32 kiloobytes, then re-format the internal memory, which yes, will erase any of the music files that are already on it, and you should be all set.

 

No you are a satisfied customer that received good service and wanted to let everyone know about it.  Satisfied customer does not equal fanboy.  

 

A fanboy would ridicule you for "not needing" whatever it is that the device did not provide.   He might explain how certain abnormal device behavior is somehow your fault as an operator because of your failure to operate the device in some undocumented esoteric ritual, thereby preventing said obvious firmware bug from surfacing.  She might try to make you feel guilty for expecting "too much" of a device offered at a certain price point, irregardless of whether that missing/buggy feature was prominently listed on the device spec sheet.   A fanboy would explain how any shortcoming of the device will "probably be fixed in the future."  To deflect criticism of a device a fanboy might compare the new device to some 7 year old device, for example a Sansa Clip.

 

Well, in any case great news on running the "bug" to ground.  Now knowing what to look fo, and after Google searching, I find that problem is not limited to FiiO but rather Android as a whole.

 

  http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1146665

 

The X3 is just looking better and better, and I'm starting to believe James when he said "It will be worth every penny you spent." (Hope I didn't paraphrase too much.)

 

One more hurdle crossed on my path to X3 vs DX50 purchase decision.

post #5055 of 17125
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Originally Posted by shrimants View Post


This got me to do a bit of research for the benefit of the community. use this rule of thumb when setting file allocation cluster size during card formatting:
Code:
Partition size           Cluster size
   -------------------------------------
   512 MB to 8,191 MB          4 KB
   8,192 MB to 16,383 MB       8 KB
   16,384 MB to 32,767 MB     16 KB
   Larger than 32,768 MB      32 KB

Source: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/192322

And for the techies like me, more information about the limitations of FAT32 (under XP) can be found here:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314463

Personally, if XP doesnt support it, I wouldnt bother trying it. For example, if win7 gives you some extra FAT32 options that it can kind of get around, i'd not bother using those "helpful" features as in this case they may bite you in the butt.

 

@good sound too.

Good call posting that info. I wondered what size I was supposed to use also, but just went with the default (I think it was 32kb). Will recheck that before I get my X3.

Any guess why they are using FAT32 anyways?  

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