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post #4051 of 17125
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Position should do it.
What filetype do you play?

 

It doesn't.. FLAC

 

It goes back to the exact position of the track where I left off, but the rest of the "currently playing" playlist seems to have reset.

Eg if I'm listening to an album, a song I already listening to might play again before the album is done playing once

post #4052 of 17125
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Originally Posted by Emospence View Post

 

It doesn't.. FLAC

 

It goes back to the exact position of the track where I left off, but the rest of the "currently playing" playlist seems to have reset.

Eg if I'm listening to an album, a song I already listening to might play again before the album is done playing once

 

 

sorry, our partner told us that the initial firmware structure decided it so it can be fixed unless we make a big change to the firmware. 

post #4053 of 17125
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Originally Posted by knights View Post

 

Treble is a mix bag - well bodied treble but short on extension. Not that bad - Fixable with ICs or amp...

Forward yet smooth mids.

Midbass is also given an extra push but sub-bass region is just average. 


Soundstage is 2-3 steps narrower

 

 

I dont think X3 is short with "microdetails" like what most reviewers said. It may miss some of treble details but so as AK with its a bit shallow midbass. These shortcomings are so little that amp or even just ICs can compensate.

 

Posts like the above make me curious that they don't mention using the built-in bass and treble adjustments to offset any perceived imbalances in the tonal spectrum.  Does the bass control effect more the mid-bass or the lower-bass? And same with the treble control; it is just the upper treble that is effected or more high-mid and up?

post #4054 of 17125
Will there be any rockbox for this thing? I wonder... smily_headphones1.gif
post #4055 of 17125
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Originally Posted by kore View Post

Will there be any rockbox for this thing? I wonder... smily_headphones1.gif

 

No rockbox
post #4056 of 17125
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

The quality of the line out is also something to be considered. Sony and Sandisk line outs have been known to have some noise and artifiacts in them

 

Apple's pre thunderbolt line outs had some of the cleanest and competently designed line out ever implemented by a mass consumer company.

 

Yep, if X3 doesn't work with your IEM or headphones because the middle amp is then too loud. Get a new amp.

 

Most companies offer a fixed level line output on their DAC because it can bypass the subsequent buffer/gain stage and volume knob needed for the headphone output (especially the analog volume), therefore improving the S/N and L/R crosstalk. The line output is designed for high impedance input on an amp (typically 10-50kOhms) so it doesn't have enough power to drive any headphones.

 

X3 is an unusual case where the headphone output (in Low Gain setting) set up to maximum volume (60) achieves almost identical performance to the line output, when connected to a high impedance amp, so I don't see much benefit of using the line output.

 

The only time a problem occurs is when you use the High Gain setting on the headphone out, in which case the signal starts distorting around Volume 54. As long as you don't max out the volume in High Gain setting, the sound quality of X3 should be very similar regardless of whether you use line out or headphone out to hook up to the amp.

 

post #4057 of 17125
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Originally Posted by kore View Post

Will there be any rockbox for this thing? I wonder... smily_headphones1.gif

 

That really depends on whether someone out there wants to spend the time and effort to develop it.  So far, no one has expressed any interest, at least on the Rockbox forums.  But the X3 was just launched.  Who knows?  If it becomes very successful, there's a chance someone will be interested in working on it.  James has already indicated that FiiO cannot release certain information due to contractual obligations with the firmware developer.  However, that does not make it impossible, just more difficult/time consuming. 

post #4058 of 17125
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Originally Posted by sandalaudio View Post

X3 is an unusual case where the headphone output (in Low Gain setting) set up to maximum volume (60) achieves almost identical performance to the line output, when connected to a high impedance amp, so I don't see much benefit of using the line output.

 

Doesn't that depend on how you define "performance"?  Exactly what did you meausre, and does what you measure correlate with the actual sound quality of the line out vs. the headphone out set at 60? 

 

It might be better to say that X3 owners experiencing volume mis-match problems with their amps through the line out might want to try connecting their amps through the X3's headphone out instead. 

post #4059 of 17125
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Originally Posted by jj69 View Post

 

Doesn't that depend on how you define "performance"?  Exactly what did you meausre, and does what you measure correlate with the actual sound quality of the line out vs. the headphone out set at 60? 

 

It might be better to say that X3 owners experiencing volume mis-match problems with their amps through the line out might want to try connecting their amps through the X3's headphone out instead. 

 

Yes you are right. I cannot say what sounds better or worse. The only thing I have shown was the contribution of background noise and harmonic distortion from a 0dBFS digital signal at 1kHz, fed into a line input of 10kOhms. This is one common way of measuring the S/N characteristics of a line output subject to an easy load such as connecting to an amp.

 

Main point was that the headphone out was designed very well so that there was little measurable benefit of using the line output, which is not usually what I expect to see on an affordable product like the X3.

post #4060 of 17125

James, I use X3's coaxial out mainly... and find that if the first track I play is 24bit flac... sometimes there will be no signal sends to the external DAC even though the display says that it is playing.. I need to switch and play a 16 bit flac then reselect the 24bit to make it work... it is no big deal, just a low priority bug when you guys have time to fix...

post #4061 of 17125
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Originally Posted by CosmicHolyGhost View Post

James, I use X3's coaxial out mainly... and find that if the first track I play is 24bit flac... sometimes there will be no signal sends to the external DAC even though the display says that it is playing.. I need to switch and play a 16 bit flac then reselect the 24bit to make it work... it is no big deal, just a low priority bug when you guys have time to fix...

 

Thanks for your report, we need to test it first and will list in the future bugs fix when we confirm the bugs

post #4062 of 17125
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Originally Posted by CosmicHolyGhost View Post

James, I use X3's coaxial out mainly... and find that if the first track I play is 24bit flac... sometimes there will be no signal sends to the external DAC even though the display says that it is playing.. I need to switch and play a 16 bit flac then reselect the 24bit to make it work... it is no big deal, just a low priority bug when you guys have time to fix...

 

I've been using the coax SPDIF with 24bit 96kHz/192kHz FLAC often, and never encountered this issue. I've been trying to reproduce this on my X3 just now, but the correct SPDIF signal comes out as soon as the file starts playing.

 

Does your problem occur when the 24bit music plays automatically as you turn on the X3 (i.e. it is resuming from before), or does it happen when you select a 24bit file and start playing, or does it happen for both cases?

post #4063 of 17125
2nd case, thanks.
It happens both for 24/96 and 24/88....
post #4064 of 17125
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Originally Posted by JamesFiiO View Post

 

 

sorry, our partner told us that the initial firmware structure decided it so it can be fixed unless we make a big change to the firmware. 

I assume you mean "can't be fixed"?

 

Well, no biggie, thanks.

post #4065 of 17125
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Originally Posted by Emospence View Post

I assume you mean "can't be fixed"?

 

Well, no biggie, thanks.

 

yes, frown.gif

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