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Edited by serious7 - 8/7/13 at 10:25am
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Originally Posted by Wokei View Post

James,

Will be the new firmware allow us to create playlist in the favourite section for example work out folder or fav rock folder ...at the moment if added to favourite ..it is just a long list of songs ?

Well ...just wanna say to Fiio ...well done ...love how the X3 turns out ...excellent product

Also special mention to Panda for all the insightful and help ...many a times wanted to ask questions but most of the time ...other headfier came ahead and he has been there all the way.

Kudos again to Fiio .


Where does one get the firmware updates?

I have not yet found it on the website.

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FiiO announces them

and they will show up here:

http://fiio.net/news/index.aspx

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Originally Posted by sandalaudio View Post

 

Yes, I only have around 1000 or so songs in 60GB (because many are 192kHz FLAC), and that indexed fine, so it almost seems like the X3 simply can't index all 7904 tracks and store the info, so it gives up? Then again, that doesn't explain why mine couldn't index 1000 songs when they were put into separate folders before. It only worked for me once I moved every single song into one single folder. Very strange.

 

It's a pain to diagnose the problem because microSD are so slow to work on (you might want to get a fast USB card reader).

 

If you get rid of all the files for artists A-G or something, then would that allow the X3 to index all the way up to Z? (It doesn't fix the problem but it might tell you something).

 

X3 is a good sounding player so I hope the problem gets fixed and you don't have to return it.

 

I have actually just checked it precisely, and it is not exactly how I thought, and is in fact only getting part way through the R section of artists:

 

So looking at where it indexes to, it is 4867 tracks in 717 folders. This may be of help to Fiio in diagnosing the issue.

 

It does index those like lightning though, I am talking less than 5 secs. and interestingly the filespace total for that lot comes to about 32Gb. It is indexing a little over half of the amount of stuff that is on the sd-card and ignoring the rest. 

 

Card being used is a Sandisk Ultra SDXC Class 10/U1, though I think that is irrelevant given that the card works and indexes OK on other DAP's I have.

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Originally Posted by serious7 View Post

am i the only one that thinks x3 sounds worse than an ipod? :S 

 

The only good thing about it is that it is more detailed.

 

The negatives: it is warm, dull and not vibrant.

 

Do I have a defective unit? lol . 

 

I think most people were forced into buying an audiophile DAP like the X3, either because they want to play 192k HD audio files without downsampling, or because they were unable to sufficiently drive their favourite high-Z headphones/high current IEMs with the output driver in the iPod (this is Head-Fi after all).

 

iPod sounds perfectly fine, especially using some efficient set of cans, like the default white earbuds....

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Originally Posted by phlashbios View Post

 

I have actually just checked it precisely, and it is not exactly how I thought, and is in fact only getting part way through the R section of artists:

 

So looking at where it indexes to, it is 4867 tracks in 717 folders. This may be of help to Fiio in diagnosing the issue.

 

It does index those like lightning though, I am talking less than 5 secs. and interestingly the filespace total for that lot comes to about 32Gb. It is indexing a little over half of the amount of stuff that is on the sd-card and ignoring the rest. 

 

Card being used is a Sandisk Ultra SDXC Class 10/U1, though I think that is irrelevant given that the card works and indexes OK on other DAP's I have.

 

I am using the exact same Sandisk Ultra card, and it managed to index all 60GB of music.

 

Maybe you need to format the card again with another FAT32 formatter freeware, and possibly play around with the default allocation size etc. I think I used "Fat32Format" with something like allocation size of around 30,000. Donno if that changes anything at all. It would be nice if X3 supports exFAT which is now the standard for SDXC.

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Originally Posted by sandalaudio View Post

 

I am using the exact same Sandisk Ultra card, and it managed to index all 60GB of music.

 

Maybe you need to format the card again with another FAT32 formatter freeware, and possibly play around with the default allocation size etc. I think I used "Fat32Format" with something like allocation size of around 30,000. Donno if that changes anything at all. It would be nice if X3 supports exFAT which is now the standard for SDXC.

 

What is your folder structure? Did I understand you correctly in your earlier post when you said you had all 1000 tracks under 1 folder now? I really, really, do not want to do that, as I transfer my sd-card to different players and want to retain the Artist/Album/Tracks structure.

 

I had already tried different formatting programs in order to rule that out, on both a Mac and Windows 8 and makes no difference what I use to format it. End result is the same for the X3 while the card indexes fine for both my laptops (Macbook Air - not using iTunes, and a Windows 8 laptop) and three other DAP's I have.

 

EDIT: Have now chopped the A-R's out and just indexed the S-Z's, that works but obviously removes the A-R's from the index at the same time. On the face of it, all told, this looks like some sort of limitation on the numbers of files and/or folders you can index. One for Fiio to look at and fix I think.


Edited by phlashbios - 8/7/13 at 11:00am
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Does anyone here who uses Senn IE800 with the x3 finds the pairing not too good? The vocal appears too forward, and because there is no EQ, the bass toning down actually affects the midrange as compared to my previous neutron setup.

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Originally Posted by muscular View Post

Does anyone here who uses Senn IE800 with the x3 finds the pairing not too good? The vocal appears too forward, and because there is no EQ, the bass toning down actually affects the midrange as compared to my previous neutron setup.

No EQ? The X3 has EQ controls.

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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

No EQ? The X3 has EQ controls.

Where do you find it?

Treble and Bass enhancements aren't enough or didn't work well for me in this case.

 

Fiio claims bass to be at 100hz, but my listening suggest it extends very far into the mid-bass eating up a portion of my female vocal.


Edited by muscular - 8/7/13 at 11:06am
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Originally Posted by muscular View Post

Where do you find it?

Treble and Bass enhancements aren't enough or didn't work well for me in this case.

 

Fiio claims bass to be at 100hz, but my listening suggest it extends very far into the mid-bass eating up a portion of my female vocal.

I do not have measurement tools for EQ but CLIEOS did

 

At +10dB, the majority of the bass boost is at 100Hz and below

 

But of course, the vocal range starts just past that and extends to about 3KHz, so we do have some of the bass leaking to the vocals. From CLEIOS's measurements, it doesn't look to be too much

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Thanks for the measurement, I guess it does eat up a small portion of my mids... oh well..

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Originally Posted by muscular View Post

Thanks for the measurement, I guess it does eat up a small portion of my mids... oh well..

Thank Ghost Mode CLIEOS biggrin.gif Of course. 

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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

FiiO announces them

and they will show up here:

http://fiio.net/news/index.aspx


Thanks

Always a good idea to check for latest firmware when getting a device

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Originally Posted by phlashbios View Post

 

What is your folder structure? Did I understand you correctly in your earlier post when you said you had all 1000 tracks under 1 folder now? I really, really, do not want to do that, as I transfer my sd-card to different players and want to retain the Artist/Album/Tracks structure.

 

I had already tried different formatting programs in order to rule that out, on both a Mac and Windows 8 and makes no difference what I use to format it. End result is the same for the X3 while the card indexes fine for both my laptops (Macbook Air - not using iTunes, and a Windows 8 laptop) and three other DAP's I have.

 

EDIT: Have now chopped the A-R's out and just indexed the S-Z's, that works but obviously removes the A-R's from the index at the same time. On the face of it, all told, this looks like some sort of limitation on the numbers of files and/or folders you can index. One for Fiio to look at and fix I think.

 

Yes. I made one folder at the root of my microSD that contains all 1000+ track files. It has no subfolders at all. This was the way that worked for me.

 

I didn't have too much problem with doing it this way, because I simply made a playlist in iTunes for all the songs I wanted to transfer to the X3, then drag & dropped it into the folder in microSD. it didn't ruin the original folder structure in iTunes, and metadata tag can sort out the rest in X3. Only one additional step was that I had to batch convert from ALAC to FLAC in that one giant folder.

 

It's still a workaround and doesn't explain why your problem is occurring. Really, I can't think of any other things you can try. It's probably something very simple (or a FW update) that might fix your problem.

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