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I'm not saying that they won't continue to do so, but there is no track record of that since this is FiiO's first device that needs firmware updates, and the X3 has yet to be fully released in all its markets. Companies often don't follow through with needed additional firmware fixes for electronic devices after they are on the market; they go on to focusing on their next product. Then again, if the X3 is successful, FiiO could decide to do a major revision of the firmware to improve the product even further. There's just no way for us to to know until it happens.

 

The current firmware isn't just for X3 as most of the core work will likely carry on to X5 as well, so there is incentive for FiiO to get it to work as best as it can. I won't expect a major structural change to the firmware at this point, more likely just UI improvement and bugfix. However, I also don't think they will ever be a bug-free X3. Not even Apple can make a totally bug-free iPod / iPhone. It is just a matter of how far the bugfix will go until the bugs are rare enough not to affect normal operation. That, I think, isn't unreasonable to expect.

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The current firmware isn't just for X3 as most of the core work will likely carry on to X5 as well, so there is incentive for FiiO to get it to work as best as it can. I won't expect a major structural change to the firmware at this point, more likely just UI improvement and bugfix. However, I also don't think they will ever be a bug-free X3. Not even Apple can make a totally bug-free iPod / iPhone. It is just a matter of how far the bugfix will go until the bugs are rare enough not to affect normal operation. That, I think, isn't unreasonable to expect.

Maybe so. Although I had thought James had said somewhere in this thread that a different company with better design experience is creating the X5 UI, which suggests at least a forked development (if not all together brand new) unless the new company is also contracted to work on the X3. In the X5 thread, it's also been discussed that the X5 would have dual micro SDs without any built in memory. This suggests that at the hardware level, the X5 file browser and database firmware implementation might need to be quite different.
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Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post


Maybe so. Although I had thought James had said somewhere in this thread that a different company with better design experience is creating the X5 UI, which suggests at least a forked development (if not all together brand new) unless the new company is also contracted to work on the X3. In the X5 thread, it's also been discussed that the X5 would have dual micro SDs without any built in memory. This suggests that at the hardware level, the X5 file browser and database firmware implementation might need to be quite different.

 

The coding (decoder) underneath the UI (the top layer interface) is likely similar to the X3 as James also mentioned a possible rebuild of X3's UI using X5's design if they have the time to do so. It is more or less determined by whether FiiO will continue to use the same SoC (or at least the same series from the same SoC supplier) in X5. For now, I do think that's their plan.


Edited by ClieOS - 7/24/13 at 7:51am
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I believe James said that the UI for X5 will be done by a new company specializing in this stuff.

I can gladly say the FiiO X3 has now reached Virginia(micca store is in virginia). However its just mine as I am on vacation. However it seems like the real mass batches will be here soon

Good luck everyone, and may the odds ever be in your favor
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I believe James said that the UI for X5 will be done by a new company specializing in this stuff.

I can gladly say the FiiO X3 has now reached Virginia(micca store is in virginia). However its just mine as I am on vacation. However it seems like the real mass batches will be here soon

Good luck everyone, and may the odds ever be in your favor

Hi:

Quick question, I asked about X3 with a local audio dealer and he said that the X3s coming to US Market shortly are Chinese models and the X3s for US market is still being worked out. Are there 2 kinds of X3s?

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The only difference I know of is firmware version

The currenr X3s in China have fw defaulted to show Chinese.

I believe those are the only differences
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

The only difference I know of is firmware version

The currenr X3s in China have fw defaulted to show Chinese.

I believe those are the only differences


Yes.

 

Due to the high demand and slow production, FiiO is alternating the supply chain. Basically, one batch goes to local Chinese market while the next goes to the oversea market, so on and so forth. Hardware and software are identical, only the default language (which you can chance) is different.

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Thank you, both! Now, just waiting for MP4Nation to ship t out :)!

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ClieOS,

You have the x3 and Tralucent T1 correct? Could you give a quick impression on the pairing as that's the rig I'm going for.
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Good luck everyone, and may the odds ever be in your favor

Katniss baby!

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ClieOS,

You have the x3 and Tralucent T1 correct? Could you give a quick impression on the pairing as that's the rig I'm going for.

 

The T1 is a loan unit and has been returned, so I can say much about it at this point. Though I don't recall anything bad about the T1 that won't allow it to work well with X3.

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we will start ship to oversea market from next week, very sorry for the delay , been too busy in the past days but everything back to normal and we will produce 300-400 per days and keep manufacturing till everyone own an X3 . :) 

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Maybe so. Although I had thought James had said somewhere in this thread that a different company with better design experience is creating the X5 UI, which suggests at least a forked development (if not all together brand new) unless the new company is also contracted to work on the X3. In the X5 thread, it's also been discussed that the X5 would have dual micro SDs without any built in memory. This suggests that at the hardware level, the X5 file browser and database firmware implementation might need to be quite different.

 

we will keep upgrading the firmware of X3 includes the firmware, we have a very good partner and now there are only few bugs in there. and also we will change the UI of X3 too . all we need is time and your support .

post #3074 of 11805
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Originally Posted by ClieOS View Post

 

The current firmware isn't just for X3 as most of the core work will likely carry on to X5 as well, so there is incentive for FiiO to get it to work as best as it can. I won't expect a major structural change to the firmware at this point, more likely just UI improvement and bugfix. However, I also don't think they will ever be a bug-free X3. Not even Apple can make a totally bug-free iPod / iPhone. It is just a matter of how far the bugfix will go until the bugs are rare enough not to affect normal operation. That, I think, isn't unreasonable to expect.

 

only when we go into this market that we found it is not a easy job if you want to make a decent DAP, compare to iPod, X3 need to supports so many kinds of music format, not to talk there are some music formate is quite strange. and what I can say is that we will try our best to improve the firmware constantly . 

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As far as I know. This product isnt actually delayed that much. It was slated for release a month ago so it has only been delayed for a month

Everyone knowing, talking about the product and what not for half a year may make the delay seem longer than it actually is.

Anyway, keep up the good work James. UI usability and flushing out and "activating" some of its features that dont work right now would be great.

I have no problem with daily usage.
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