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post #2041 of 13249
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Originally Posted by simonthepieman View Post

Quality is very good, powerful yes, dynamic yes , transparency and image better on Z2 . No distortion and very musical 

nice warm sound. 

Nothing to complain about but Z2 has more resolution and detail if they are the correct adjectives

Of course sound quality is very subjective. I have been into hi fi since 15 years old (now 46 ) In the main i use

active studio monitors in my main system , very accurate sound , genuinly I believe you hear the recording

if it is bad then that's what you get, when it's good then magic sometimes.

 

I discovered active ATC's some years ago , also use genelec monitors in other rooms 

 

http://www.atcloudspeakers.co.uk/hi-fi/

 

I am not saying I know good sound per say , but I do know what I like and if ATC's are accurate then I know what I like

 

When it comes to the X3 i really like it , but I think presently the Z2 is more accurate , if that makes sense?

post #2042 of 13249
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Originally Posted by zachchen1996 View Post

Oh dear, the x3 better sound better than the j3, I really did not like the j3...

He's talking about J3 with all the DSP effects involved. 

post #2043 of 13249
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Originally Posted by simonthepieman View Post

Of course sound quality is very subjective. I have been into hi fi since 15 years old (now 46 ) In the main i use

active studio monitors in my main system , very accurate sound , genuinly I believe you hear the recording

if it is bad then that's what you get, when it's good then magic sometimes.

 

I discovered active ATC's some years ago , also use genelec monitors in other rooms 

 

http://www.atcloudspeakers.co.uk/hi-fi/

 

I am not saying I know good sound per say , but I do know what I like and if ATC's are accurate then I know what I like

 

When it comes to the X3 i really like it , but I think presently the Z2 is more accurate , if that makes sense?

Thanks for your thoughts. so you are comparing both to the STC monitors and the Z2 is closer to it than x3. what are those monitors driven by?

post #2044 of 13249
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Originally Posted by Achmedisdead View Post

He's talking about J3 with all the DSP effects involved. 
How did you know? I always use my J3 flat, without any bbe or anything that will alter the sound. I bought it for the battery life, expandable memory and ease of use not for the DSPs. Sad to say, I'm not so happy with its sound. My Nationite N2 even though very small has a huge jump in SQ without any eq on both device. The J3 somewhat lacks dynamics.
Edited by autoexec - 6/23/13 at 4:53pm
post #2045 of 13249
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Originally Posted by Tom Yum Goong View Post

J3 + BA IEM = pretty poor sub-bass
:P
At least in my experience.

 

In my experience, too.

 

The output impedance of the J3 is just not suited to BA IEMs/CIEMs.

 

In many other respects, though, the J3 is a truly wonderful player. Slim, light, battery last for ages, usable GUI, respectable mid-fi SQ, usable screen, etc. etc. In spite of its failings, I still use mine regularly.

post #2046 of 13249

The J3 size, weight, long battery life, good GUI, drag drop file transfer are all great.  And Cowon DAPs support m3u playlists (what I really want in X3 future firmware updates) so that was excellent for my use too.

 

The only thing that met nearly all of the above and went over in SQ (in trade for size) for me was the Rockboxed imod line out I use now.

 

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Originally Posted by autoexec View Post

How did you know? I always use my J3 flat, without any bbe or anything that will alter the sound. I bought it for the battery life, expandable memory and ease of use not for the DSPs. Sad to say, I'm not so happy with its sound. My Nationite N2 even though very small has a huge jump in SQ without any eq on both device. The J3 somewhat lacks dynamics.

 

In general Cowon DAPs only shine with their built in tweaks. Use BBE (try up to 4 or 5), EQ and the other effects. They're good when the effects are enabled but if not they sound boring (no offense but they're just made like that).

post #2047 of 13249
James, I notice the X3 gets quite warm even through the silicone case after short usage (below 20mins)
Will a firmware update fix this?
post #2048 of 13249
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Originally Posted by Levanter View Post

James, I notice the X3 gets quite warm even through the silicone case after short usage (below 20mins)
Will a firmware update fix this?

 

Sorry not, it is warm but not hot, right? this is a hardware issue but not firmware issue so can't solved by firmware update.

post #2049 of 13249
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Originally Posted by JamesFiiO View Post

Sorry not, it is warm but not hot, right? this is a hardware issue but not firmware issue so can't solved by firmware update.

Thanks for the info.
I haven't tried a long run so I'm not sure if it will get hot, but so far 20 mins makes it warm.
I'll try continuous hours to test if it'll get hot.
post #2050 of 13249
Any x3 owners compare to the sound of an iPod 5g/5.5g with LOD? Might pull the trigger on one of these... Or should I keep my 128gb CF 5g iPod tongue.gif
post #2051 of 13249
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Originally Posted by JamesFiiO View Post

 

Sorry not, it is warm but not hot, right? this is a hardware issue but not firmware issue so can't solved by firmware update.

Will Fiio do any modification to the existing casing of X3 in order to dissipate the heat more efficiently?

post #2052 of 13249
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Originally Posted by cyberalpha11 View Post

Will Fiio do any modification to the existing casing of X3 in order to dissipate the heat more efficiently?

 

I am using the player about a week or so and I haven't observed any significant warming up of it. 

post #2053 of 13249
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Originally Posted by cyberalpha11 View Post

Will Fiio do any modification to the existing casing of X3 in order to dissipate the heat more efficiently?

Actually, lots of powerful DAPs or amps can get warm to hot (especially class A amps). In some instances, metal casing itself acts as heat sink and is designed to dissipate heat (which makes it warm/hot to touch). I had Hifiman HM-801 before and that baby gets hot. A Sansa Clip won't get hot but it's amp is not powerful.
post #2054 of 13249
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Originally Posted by cyberalpha11 View Post

Will Fiio do any modification to the existing casing of X3 in order to dissipate the heat more efficiently?

 

not, it is warm but not hot depended on our test and the feedback of more than 1,000 users in China. and now it is the hottest weather in China now. 

post #2055 of 13249
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Originally Posted by zzffnn View Post


Actually, lots of powerful DAPs or amps can get warm to hot (especially class A amps). In some instances, metal casing itself acts as heat sink and is designed to dissipate heat (which makes it warm/hot to touch). I had Hifiman HM-801 before and that baby gets hot. A Sansa Clip won't get hot but it's amp is not powerful.

I know about the Class A amps, the hotter, the better the sound quality.

As mentioned by James (Fiio) in another thread, the kind of warm in X3 is not that alarming.

Thus, we don't have to worry so much. :)

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