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I also must admit, when I say to my kiddies that I listen to albums, they look all confused and say "why would you want to listen to all those songs by the *same* person?".

Playlists... they're the future :wink_face:

 

I really don't like listening to music by playlists:D Album by album makes so much more sense! Why listen to one artist than another with a totally different style of music? You will need to change your mood every song:tongue_smile:

 

I like albums as normally, each track is the same sort of music and I can choose an album depending what mood I am in. I suppose if you listen to playlists by genera, it isn't quite as bad then.

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I really don't like listening to music by playlists:D Album by album makes so much more sense! Why listen to one artist than another with a totally different style of music? You will need to change your mood every song:tongue_smile:

I like albums as normally, each track is the same sort of music and I can choose an album depending what mood I am in. I suppose if you listen to playlists by genera, it isn't quite as bad then.

Listening with play lists or shuffle is like listening to Pandora or the radio, which is one of the most common ways people listen or listened to music (radio isn't as popular as it used to be, but that has more to do with the kind of music that gets played on the radio rather than the format).

Are you really trying to criticize people for the way they listen to music, be it album or shuffle/playlist? Seriously? Sometimes people want to listen to an album. Sometimes people want to listen to a mix or variety. There was a reason that in their day, mixtapes and mix cds were really popular.
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I really don't like listening to music by playlists:D Album by album makes so much more sense! Why listen to one artist than another with a totally different style of music? You will need to change your mood every song:tongue_smile:

I like albums as normally, each track is the same sort of music and I can choose an album depending what mood I am in. I suppose if you listen to playlists by genera, it isn't quite as bad then.

Listening with play lists or shuffle is like listening to Pandora or the radio, which is one of the most common ways people listen or listened to music (radio isn't as popular as it used to be, but that has more to do with the kind of music that gets played on the radio rather than the format).

Are you really trying to criticize people for the way they listen to music, be it album or shuffle/playlist? Seriously? Sometimes people want to listen to an album. Sometimes people want to listen to a mix or variety. There was a reason that in their day, mixtapes and mix cds were really popular.


I use both albums when i have different types of music in a row... but i tend to shuffle or playlist when i have f.e a 60Cds of canatas by bach and i don't want to be bored so i mix to make it more inetersting, loved the ipod could play album shuffle

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Originally Posted by steelglam View Post


Listening with play lists or shuffle is like listening to Pandora or the radio, which is one of the most common ways people listen or listened to music (radio isn't as popular as it used to be, but that has more to do with the kind of music that gets played on the radio rather than the format).

Are you really trying to criticize people for the way they listen to music, be it album or shuffle/playlist? Seriously? Sometimes people want to listen to an album. Sometimes people want to listen to a mix or variety. There was a reason that in their day, mixtapes and mix cds were really popular.


No, there is no problem at all if that is the way that people want to listen to their music. It was just that people shouldn't be surprised one track is suddenly louder than another. I should have worded my post better. It is just my opinion. I have always prefered to listen to albums. I don't mind an album of mixed tracks because at least they are all the same volume level. I just don't like the idea of listening to a playlist of very different tracks from different albums. (probably why I don't like the radio much). One of the things that puts me off on the X3 even more is that volume difference issue. As I listen to albums though, that is no problem at all.

 

Sorry about that post.

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Only referring to MP3 files, of course, but my collection is 320 MP3 and all MP3Gained, works flawlessly, all at similar volume.  And, my collection spreads from quiet, such as Steve Winwood Back in the HIghlife original cd, to the newest Slipknot, which is as loud as you can go without digital distortion(like Metallica Death Magnetic).

 

So, a solution exists for MP3 files, although I know that's likely the minority with a device like this being discussed in this thread.  However, I would estimate 90% of X3 users never come to a forum such as this, and 75% of them use a majority of compressed files, likely MP3.  


Edited by ryankesler - 2/23/15 at 8:45pm
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Originally Posted by CarstenF View Post

I bought a camera connection kit/usb hub that looks similar to this: http://www.ebay.de/itm/Connection-Kit-USB-Hub-fur-iPad-Adapter-fur-Apple-iPad-1-2-Kartenleser-Weiss-/191474503891?pt=DE_Lautsprecher_Martin&hash=item2c94c510d3

It worked in unpowered mode.

Here's a picture of mine:



The white plug going into the ipad was poorly connected to the cable. I got a 50% refund from the Chinese seller and super-glued and taped it, that's why it looks strange in the picture.

I could not get the unit suggested by Carsten to work.

But, the simple two port hub from Amazon that somebody suggested works! I am trying to find the post. But I am using nplayer right now on my ipad to play hi res files.

The cck goes to the two port hub. Then the regular x3 sub cable goes to the hub. And yep the x3 is an Apple ipad DAC. This is 30 pin unit.

Interesting that the x3 says everything is 24bit 44 kHz. I suspect that is not accurate. The unit has volume treble and bass controls. Using latest beta firmware.

Holy buckets. That E07 may go on eBay after all. It will be great to carry one less machine.
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Only referring to MP3 files, of course, but my collection is 320 MP3 and all MP3Gained, works flawlessly, all at similar volume.

 

Good point, and spot-on of course. There exists a lossless way like this I believe to pre-convert mp3's to a similar volume, *before* copying them to the X3.

Of course, as you say.... they are already 'lossy' in the first place....

 

The problem is, for lossless files such as FLAC, ReplayGain comes in. No change to the source file, just a Gain adjustment at the time of playback.

 

This the X3 does not do!!

 

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Sometimes people want to listen to a mix or variety. There was a reason that in their day, mixtapes and mix cds were really popular.

 

I'm someone for whom the 80s mix-tape was a magic thing...being given a carefully chosen (and volume matched lol) set of tracks, a key part of the 80s dating scene lol

The gorgeous "analogue" sound of the X3, especially with the hardware bass and treble takes me back :bigsmile_face: *takes a moment*

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I could not get the unit suggested by Carsten to work.

But, the simple two port hub from Amazon that somebody suggested works! I am trying to find the post. But I am using nplayer right now on my ipad to play hi res files.

The cck goes to the two port hub. Then the regular x3 sub cable goes to the hub. And yep the x3 is an Apple ipad DAC. This is 30 pin unit.

Interesting that the x3 says everything is 24bit 44 kHz. I suspect that is not accurate. The unit has volume treble and bass controls. Using latest beta firmware.

Holy buckets. That E07 may go on eBay after all. It will be great to carry one less machine.

What Ipad version and ios version are you using?
For me (ipad 3, ios 7) the above mentioned kit worked. I set the x3 to dac mode. I plug headphones into the x3, then the black usb cable into on of the three usb ports of the Chinese camera connection kit and then the white cable of the kit into the 30pin connector of the ipad. Spotify works great. I'm sure the Onkyo flac player would work as well but since I have more storage on the x3 this combination makes no sense to me.
When streaming spotify I also get on the x3 display 24bit/44,1 khz. Perhaps the ipad is outputting via the 30pin connector always in 24bit.
Edited by CarstenF - 2/24/15 at 5:22am
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Carsten. I will fiddle some more.

Does your X3 unit display. 44 kHz /24 bit no matter what in DAC mode?
Edited by originalsnuffy - 2/24/15 at 6:30am
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Still playing with Carsten's idea.

 

Meanwhile, there is information on the device above in the Camera Connecting Kit thread.  Source was Bliss53.  It made use of the X3 as a DAC with my ipad and iphone (with the camera connecting kit) very straightforward.   

 

I purchased one from Amazon for under $10.  See the USB hub at http://www.amazon.com/Cute-USB-2-Port-Splitter-White/dp/B00A81ISJ6/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1394942486&sr=1-1&keywords=Cute+USB+Mini+2-Port+USB+2.0+Hub+Splitter+%28White


Edited by originalsnuffy - 2/24/15 at 8:16pm
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Originally Posted by Johnlist View Post
 

Greetings

 

My first post here, sorry if someone already asked but I appreciate if you can tell me does X3 supports native DSD playback when used as a usb DAC? I have SACD pluging in foobar, ASIO driver and when hitting play no errors (edit) just what happens is that there are huge noise however you can hear music in background. what could reason causing this issue ?

 

I used this guide http://www.audiostream.com/content/how-play-dsd-file-using-foobar2000

 

 

Thanks

 

Greetings. 

 

I don't think so. It should be limited by DAC and thus downscaled. 

 

Nevertheless, I have no problems with playing SACD files via foobar2000 (DSF, DFF, ISO, DSD,...) using this plugin: http://sourceforge.net/projects/sacddecoder/

The problem can be caused by trying to play multichannel recording (6ch?) on stereo device (2ch). 

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