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Why would you ever spend more on the dap than the iem itself?

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@Ophiel

?????
post #11073 of 17227

subbing thread. I should be getting my X3 in the mail in the next couple of days :)

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Originally Posted by peter123 View Post

@Ophiel

?????

your VSD3S costs less than the X3 right? won't it be more worthwhile to use that $$ on a mid tier iem rather than getting the X3 + the VSD3S?

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Originally Posted by Ophiel View Post

your VSD3S costs less than the X3 right? won't it be more worthwhile to use that $$ on a mid tier iem rather than getting the X3 + the VSD3S?

Sorry, I'm probably studied but I don't follow....

How would a good source be bad for any can or IEM. Also I assure you that the vsd3s is superior to many mid tier priced IEM's.

Anyhow I use the X3 with a lot of multiple cans/IEM's so for me its sure worth it.

X3 is also a entry level DAP in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by Ophiel View Post
 

Why would you ever spend more on the dap than the iem itself?

you mean you got your (PC:confused_face_2:) ODAC and iFi for less than your HD600?

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I think what ophiel means is at any portable setup the cans or iems should be the most expensive and higher end part in the chain to get the most of it ..that's all
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OK, in that case I respectfully disagree.
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Originally Posted by jimmers View Post
 

you mean you got your (PC:confused_face_2:) ODAC and iFi for less than your HD600?

That's not a fair comparison. the HD600 DOES need an amp. IEMs benefit very little from an amp, so it makes more sense to spend more on the iem themselves.

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Originally Posted by Ophiel View Post
 

That's not a fair comparison. the HD600 DOES need an amp. IEMs benefit very little from an amp, so it makes more sense to spend more on the iem themselves.

"IEMs benefit very little from an amp" - I don't know about IEMs, I can't use them, so I'll leave that.

 

But they still need a good source though, don't they?:blink:

 

Be hard to find any source much cheaper than VSD3S, unless you already own one.:p


Edited by jimmers - 6/24/14 at 4:02am
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Originally Posted by Ophiel View Post
 

Why would you ever spend more on the dap than the iem itself?



Because in the world of audio the price of an item means very little. I've heard $70 IEM that outperform $250 IEM. I've heard $250 IEM I preferred over a $750 IEM. Price in relation to sound quality (or good sound quality) is irrelevant. Also, the main thing here is user preference. Who's to say one member doesn't prefer the signature of the cheaper IEM? Does that make them wrong for wanting to spend money on a nice DAP for it?

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@H2OFidelity

+1, great post!
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I agree, but I don't agree completely. Price ultimately correlate with the quality of sound you are getting, the details you can hear etc etc. There are of course exceptions along the way. like the $70 that outperforms the $250 one. And the $250 that outperforms the $750 one. Of course when u are buying an iem or a can, you want to make the most out of your money. This is especially important to me since i'm still a student and i can't just spurge on whatever I lay my eyes on. All i'm saying is that instead of buying the $70 one that just competes with 200+ ones, why not get the $250 one that outperforms the $750 one. There are so many iems out there, surely you can find a sound signature to your liking instead of restricting to the $70 one and adding the X3 which will not improve the sound as much?

 

Not to slam the X3, i like it, but I dun feel they improve on the sound as much as spending $150 more on an iem. Especially from a low-tier to a mid-tier one. As for source, many phones are actually decent sources with exception of some (like my old galaxy S2). If not the sansa clip is quite close for much less. the clip is pretty good but of course it won't drive cans well

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Originally Posted by Ophiel View Post
 

I agree, but I don't agree completely. Price ultimately correlate with the quality of sound you are getting, the details you can hear etc etc. There are of course exceptions along the way. like the $70 that outperforms the $250 one. And the $250 that outperforms the $750 one. Of course when u are buying an iem or a can, you want to make the most out of your money. This is especially important to me since i'm still a student and i can't just spurge on whatever I lay my eyes on. All i'm saying is that instead of buying the $70 one that just competes with 200+ ones, why not get the $250 one that outperforms the $750 one. There are so many iems out there, surely you can find a sound signature to your liking instead of restricting to the $70 one and adding the X3 which will not improve the sound as much?

 

Not to slam the X3, i like it, but I dun feel they improve on the sound as much as spending $150 more on an iem. Especially from a low-tier to a mid-tier one. As for source, many phones are actually decent sources with exception of some (like my old galaxy S2). If not the sansa clip is quite close for much less. the clip is pretty good but of course it won't drive cans well


Because my friend like I said: the price is irrelevant. I know it makes total sense to assume "spend more get more" though it's not the case 100% of the time. I can understand your point of view as it's what marketing and expectations lead you to believe however from hands on experience (and many others agree) it just doesn't work like that in portable audio.

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I hooked the Fiio X 3 at my little netbook (but with I 3), use it as a Dac, and play it with Mark Levinson amps and B&W 800  D.  Not aggressive, very, very transparent, just lacking a bit of power and bass and maybe the staging could be better. But balance is really nice!  My Accuphase Cd Player, plays dull compared to it.

 

So only the fact that little player can drive this kind of gear and sounds terrific, is already a miracle!  I use it all the time now. It is summer, sit outside a lot, I use J river, and can with Gizmo choose my music ( I also made a folder structure in it), and adapt the sound, while not to get up out of my chair. Not sure of more expensive Dac's will give me more pleasure.

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