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post #196 of 288
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Originally Posted by rock-solid View Post

Thanks project86 for this detailled review. Especially for explaining some of the technical background and comparing to some competitors.

From the specs it should be possible to drive a 880 600 Ohm, we´ll see.

I did not expect that you don´t hear large difference using the psu or not. If this thing can be used on the road too - even better.

What you think about changing the OPA2227? Could be worth the try or wasting time?

I stumbled upon a thread here quoting a japanese site:

 

 

That was of course for the AMP-HP.

So if anybody has some free time and bucks - that´s a list of options to try.

And I would not necessarily think that 50$ is an obstacle as some buy RCA-Cables about that budget - and I trust more in the ability of an OPAmp to change interesting things than of an cable.

 

The opamp in the AMP-HP is more directly responsible for powering the headphones. So it makes sense that swapping it would lead to audible changes. In the HUD-mx2, the OPA2227 is part of a differential amplifier circuit, which is used to improve common mode rejection among other things. It doesn't seem wise to swap that chip out since we don't know what parameters the circuit calls for. Frankly I'm surprised Audinst went with a socketed chip in that spot.

 

The OPA2134 on the line-out is another matter. Swapping that out could very well bring improvements, and it would be worth investigating. 

 

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Originally Posted by lithium1085 View Post

thats not a problem Project86, after all there is only so much you can listen to. Can I ask if you subscribe to the view that spdif is inherently superior to USB with a clear performance difference?

 

Depends on the implementation of each. If we are talking about potential alone, I think properly done asynchronous USB clearly has the advantage. But there are so many variables that it can never be a blanket statement. 

 

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Originally Posted by EasySounds View Post

Hi all,

 

Anyone have any views on how the audinst hud-mx2 compares to the NFB 11.32 , or the schiit magni/modi combination?

 

In my area, the audinst hud-mx2 and the schiit magni/modi are both around USD250 whereas the NFB 11.32 is around USD337.

 

Likely setup would be laptop with hifiman he-500. (but do give views on how these dac/amps perform on paper)

 

[edit: would also be nice to hear what you guys think of the build quality (how sturdy/robust), and weight/portability]

seems the audinst hud-mx2 are pretty portable and of substantial build quality.

 

Thanks.

 

I can't speak to the comparisons, having no experience with the Audio GD or the Schiit. But I would think if transportabiliy was a concern, you would not be considering units like those which require AC power. In that case USB powered devices like Audinst or HRT would be the way to go. 

post #197 of 288
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Originally Posted by project86 View Post

 

 

Depends on the implementation of each. If we are talking about potential alone, I think properly done asynchronous USB clearly has the advantage. But there are so many variables that it can never be a blanket statement. 

 

 

I can't speak to the comparisons, having no experience with the Audio GD or the Schiit. But I would think if transportabiliy was a concern, you would not be considering units like those which require AC power. In that case USB powered devices like Audinst or HRT would be the way to go. 

 

Thanks a lot Project86......by the way are you reviewing the new HRT music streamer HD......the one that is fully balanced for $450?

post #198 of 288

I'm considering between Yulong U100 and Audinst HUD-MX2?  Which one is perfectly match with my Ultrasone pro 750? I had used the Audio-GD NFB12, but I just gave it to my brother. 

 

Please help advise :)

post #199 of 288
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Originally Posted by lithium1085 View Post

 

Thanks a lot Project86......by the way are you reviewing the new HRT music streamer HD......the one that is fully balanced for $450?

 

I probably won't - all booked up for a while. Looks nice though. 

 

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Originally Posted by tuamtuem View Post

I'm considering between Yulong U100 and Audinst HUD-MX2?  Which one is perfectly match with my Ultrasone pro 750? I had used the Audio-GD NFB12, but I just gave it to my brother. 

 

Please help advise :)

 

I'd probably do with the Audinst as I think it outclasses the U100 in overall SQ. 

post #200 of 288
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The opamp in the AMP-HP is more directly responsible for powering the headphones. So it makes sense that swapping it would lead to audible changes. In the HUD-mx2, the OPA2227 is part of a differential amplifier circuit, which is used to improve common mode rejection among other things. It doesn't seem wise to swap that chip out since we don't know what parameters the circuit calls for. Frankly I'm surprised Audinst went with a socketed chip in that spot.

 

The OPA2134 on the line-out is another matter. Swapping that out could very well bring improvements, and it would be worth investigating. 

 

Alright, so I should ask Audinst what was their intention to make the differential amp swappable. The line-out is not that important to me as it will only play a 5%-usage-role at least.

On the other I am so pleased with the sound signature as I go on re-listening to my library that I see no urgent need for changing something here.

Perhaps it will be better to save the money for a nice tube amp to play with.

post #201 of 288

I suppose it couldn't hurt to just try a few opamps to see what happens. I'd look at the specs on the OPA2227 and find other options that don't stray too far. 

post #202 of 288

Thanks for the great recommendation :)

 

Actually, I am considering Yulong D100 MK ii as well, but I'm not so sure whether it's worth a try?. Are there big differences between HUD-mx2 and D100 MKii in terms of sound quality (I just need the good DAC/AMP to pair with my Ultrasone pro 750)

 

PS. I have MBP, do I need to worry about the driver?

post #203 of 288
Works without a driver on OS X. Tested on MBA and MacMini with MountainLion here.
post #204 of 288
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Originally Posted by project86 View Post

My review of the mx2 is finished and posted HERE.

 

Great review mate. Very easy to read and with all the details one could ask for already provided.

post #205 of 288
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Originally Posted by project86 View Post

 

The opamp in the AMP-HP is more directly responsible for powering the headphones. So it makes sense that swapping it would lead to audible changes. In the HUD-mx2, the OPA2227 is part of a differential amplifier circuit, which is used to improve common mode rejection among other things. It doesn't seem wise to swap that chip out since we don't know what parameters the circuit calls for. Frankly I'm surprised Audinst went with a socketed chip in that spot.

 

The OPA2134 on the line-out is another matter. Swapping that out could very well bring improvements, and it would be worth investigating. 

Hi project86, thanks for sharing these technical details.

 

So you are saying swapping OPA2134 can only impact the SQ of the RCA line-out? If I rely on the built-in AMP of MX2 to drive my headphones, swapping OPA2227 may have impact, is it correct? But you also said doing so doesn't seem wise confused_face.gif

 

By the way, I have a LME49720HA which I really liked in my ibasso P4 and would like to try it in MX2. 

post #206 of 288

I am looking forward to compare both of them, with o2+Odac and U100, iFi iDAC as well. MX2 should be arrived with me this week.

post #207 of 288
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Originally Posted by zn7726 View Post

Hi project86, thanks for sharing these technical details.

 

So you are saying swapping OPA2134 can only impact the SQ of the RCA line-out? If I rely on the built-in AMP of MX2 to drive my headphones, swapping OPA2227 may have impact, is it correct? But you also said doing so doesn't seem wise confused_face.gif

 

By the way, I have a LME49720HA which I really liked in my ibasso P4 and would like to try it in MX2. 

 

Correct - OPA2134 is for the line-out, so it should not impact the headphone section at all. OPA2227 should but like I said, I don't know how good of an idea it might be. I guess it couldn't hurt though. 

post #208 of 288

Hi guys,

 

A newbie here :) I as wondering if you can compare the Audinst MX-2 to Arcam rPAC in terms of sound. I'd definitely go for the latter over the MX-1 (based on reviews, forums etc.), but the MX-2 has just been released, so I'm not sure what to do. I am leaning towards the rPAC as I'm not really sure what excise/tax/import duty etc. I'd have to pay HMRC - I can just get the rPAC from Amazon and be done with it, while the MX-2 can only be bought from S.Korea (I'd really appreciate any input from people who've recently bought/imported this into UK), I'm willing to spend a bit more on the MX-2 if it gets me a better sound, but within reason...


Edited by aginor - 3/19/13 at 7:49am
post #209 of 288
Hi aginor, being a uk person as well i was really torn between the two. i decided on the mx2 as is def more versitile and will have a higher output to headphones and line so more suited to a range of headphones. Also mx2 has an optical input. As for sound i am just about to collect, there has been no custom duty if that helps. i sense the rPac would be a more laid back refined sound but have not heard it.

edit = up and running - I am impressed and really like the unit. I concur it is a little bass light but I think that will change as it burns in. It has a good output to my headphones and tripath amp which is what I wanted.
Edited by meschle - 3/19/13 at 11:00am
post #210 of 288

Wow. 

 

Nice surprise to receive a parcel with this amp/dac in it, whilst at work.

 

Great turnaround from audinst - I ordered it on the weekend I think.

 

I'll burn it in for two weeks before listening to it and reporting on what I hear.

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