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post #946 of 1206
I'm planning to get an upgrade cable for my sm64 v2, maybe Toxic cable silver widow.. Is this a good choice? Or which kind of cables do u all think complement well with it? Silver, copper or silver+gold?
post #947 of 1206

Got SXC24 mini-balanced for my SM64 from AloAudio (silver plated copper). Very good since the SM64 is a bit dark and the silver wiring ligth it up. I bought also the Silver Dragon IEM cable from MoonAudio since you can change the termination (balanced or SE) if you have different amps (Alo Mk3-B or Continental...).

In both cases Silver is a plus for these IEMs.

post #948 of 1206

So, I just received my SM64s, and I am wondering some things:

 

First, I just came off of a pretty badass rig: Schiit Mjolnir > Audeze LCD-2.2s, and so perhaps my ears have been spoiled?

 

I used to own the SM3s and I also found that they were veiled and had very warm, thick mids. So, my SM3 impressions are pretty much in line with everybody else's assessment of them.

 

These are my impressions of the SM64:

 

1. I am not liking what I'm hearing very much (sound signature wise).

2. Treble seems to lack energy and sound artificial; on the verge of sibilant.

3. Just an overall veil. Where's the resolution everyone is talking about?

4. Sub-bass is way too much

5. Soundstage is medium-large sized, but the bass is just filling all the space...

 

I remember when I first got my SM3s, the bass was really bloated and it just didn't sound good, so I assumed it was the same thing with the SM64s. When I switched tips out for different tips on SM3, they became really excellent IEMs (save for the over thickness sometimes). Didn't get that transformation on the SM64s, though the sound did improve by probably 15-20%. 

 

There just isn't the clarity that I'm used to. I am even preferring the SM3s right now because at least the mids were shoved in my face and sounded quite good. These ones, the mids are pulled back but bass quantity is very high... I've never been a bass head, so maybe this signature is just not for me? Now I'm thinking I should go with the UM3Xs (which I also owned but were stolen) because from what I remember, they had unmatched clarity and extremely punchy bass. 

 

Is there something I should try? I was thinking of putting on some Shure yellow foamies (because that usually brings out a lot of clarity), but I don't know if I should have to drop $20 on trying to get these to sound the way I want with tips (it's a gamble anyway).

 

Anyone get what I'm getting?

 

PS. Seems to sound significantly better when I boost them to max volume on my iPhone 5. It seems like I really need a DAC/AMP for these to shine. Seems that's the case given these are high impedance(?). But I don't want to carry around a DAC/AMP with me, so should I just ditch these? I want to just run them out of my iPhone when I'm on the go. 

 

Thanks. 


Edited by Pepper - 11/26/13 at 5:08pm
post #949 of 1206
Thread Starter 
I really disliked the p series comply tips that came with the sm64. They leave the driver port too far from the ear and cause some of the negative sound traits you described.

The shure yellow foams were my favorite choice with the sm64, just push them in as far as you can and you should get the sound your looking for. Personally I'd take the sound of the 64 over the um3x any day. But that's personal preference ofcourse.
post #950 of 1206
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Originally Posted by Tom Yum Goong View Post
 

So, did anybody here already had the balls to remove the filters?

 

Tomorrow I'm going to see if I can pick up the yellow foam sleeves by Shure. Those have always brought out more treble, etc. I find the gooey tips just make everything way too bassy and just eat up all the treble. 

 

If that's not enough to make the treble better, I think I'm going to remove the filters.

 

Question: If I remove the filters, is this irreversible? I've removed them on my SM3s, but never intended on putting them back in. Should I keep the filters in case I want to put 'em back in, or is this impossible?

 

Thanks.

post #951 of 1206

Okay guys, as reference since I'm not sure anyone else has done it.

 

But I took the dive and just removed the filters from my brand new SM64s. Scroll up a few posts to see my initial impressions with stock complies, Westone stars, etc.

 

1. First, I went out and bought a brand new set of Shure yellow sleeves. Instantly saw a 15% increase in sound quality from the stock complys. 

2. Still wasn't happy. Treble still sucked and the entire sound was bloated and extremely veiled. So I sad, SCREW IT, and pulled out the filters.

 

INSTANT 35-40% increase in sound quality.

 

Treble now EXISTS and is very good.

 

No more stupid bloaty bass. (Bass quantity is drastically less than it was before. Now sounds like every other normal IEM bass instead of that cheap Sony sound they had going on before.)

 

Goodbye veil. Resolution increased >40%

 

Now it's an excellent IEM. I just came off of a Mjolnir > LCD 2.2 setup. I know what sounds good. This is a very, very acceptable transition from that setup. No need to go back to high end cans for me.

 

EDIT: Officially the best IEMs I have ever owned, and I've owned a lot: SE535, 530, SM3, Superfi.5, UM3X, EX1000,  etc.


Edited by Pepper - 11/28/13 at 4:44pm
post #952 of 1206
Very interesting - and gutsy! Were you able to get the filters out without destroying them?
post #953 of 1206
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Originally Posted by ericr View Post

Very interesting - and gutsy! Were you able to get the filters out without destroying them?

 

Unfortunately, at least one of them got lost. I'm not sure about the other one; it's hard to see if the cushion is still inside it.

 

It looks like a metal cylinder, and inside is this soft white cloth filter material. I removed the entire metal cylinders, and in so doing, I think at least one of the filters lost its little white cushion. It's really hard to hook the filters in a way that wouldn't mess with the little cushions, but there is zero reason I'll be ever putting them back in :).

 

Also, the Shure yellow sleeves (the new generation at least) have a little mesh of their own, so that's kind of a substitute for hygiene purposes!


Edited by Pepper - 11/28/13 at 9:03pm
post #954 of 1206
Guys, I found sm64 and s-em6 in earphoneolutions.com sale for Black Friday, And I :Dhave already order a pair for about $350
post #955 of 1206
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Originally Posted by Alanaudio View Post

Guys, I found sm64 and s-em6 in earphoneolutions.com sale for Black Friday, And I :Dhave already order a pair for about $350

Yay, congrats. Let us know when you get it. If you get the same impressions as I do at first (check my post #948), then I suggest reading the next two posts I have on the subject. I've completely overhauled my SM64s and they're probs the best IEMs I've had.

post #956 of 1206

These just arrived today. Coming from the Westone 4R, these seem to be exactly what I was looking for... (more bass, neutral mids, smoother treble, larger soundstage)

 

Will be back with impressions after a few days.


Edited by Change is Good - 11/29/13 at 1:28pm
post #957 of 1206
Hi pepper, I have already read your posts before purchasing sm64. And actually I found some people used to own sm3 have some similar comments as you, personally, I think once we change our earphone or headphone, we just regard the order one as the reference, but as soon as we get used to the new one, it is relatively easy for us to find more pros on it.....
post #958 of 1206
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Originally Posted by Pepper View Post
 

But I took the dive and just removed the filters from my brand new SM64s. Scroll up a few posts to see my initial impressions with stock complies, Westone stars, etc.

 

Please note that if you are failed to remove the filter, it will cost you 15 EUR for each. In case the company needs to break the shell to take the filter out, it costs you another 60 EUR for one side. Additionally, the shipping cost will be around 30 EUR. So, think twice before attempt any modification.

post #959 of 1206

I was just about to pull the trigger on the Westone 4R when I came upon this thread. Now I am torn between the Westone 4R and the SM64. I am looking for a significant upgrade from my Vsonics GR07 mkII BE. I do love the sound signature of the GR07, however I feel like I'm missing something. Could someone chime in with suggestions on which one's sonics would be more like the GR07... only better? I do like the visceral impact of the bass, lack of bass bleed into midrange, crisp extended highs and natural mids the GR07 portray. I even do not mind the siblance too much. I am concerned a BA IEM may not give me the punchy bass of the Vsonics dynamic driver? So which would be a more refined GR07? Thanks for any input.

post #960 of 1206

If you love the Gr07 bass, you will prefer the SM64. The SM64's bass is the only one that make rumble sound likes dynamic driver.

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