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post #676 of 1294

"The story ends where it begiiiiins!"
*insert awesome Petrucci solo*

No srsly, why do we have to go full circle here again?

Inks, why don't you just drop, whatever you are trying to archieve here? You just keep repeating yourself.

post #677 of 1294
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Originally Posted by tinyman392 View Post

 

Their statement is that the 5 kHz hurts the IEM (Just FYI, Rin's colored graphs use a curve similar to the one you posted to compensate, I use a similar one as well).  Your information regarding the resonance spike actually backs them up.  I'll agree, that it more likely than not will be negative, but not negative enough to say the whole IEM sucks. 

 

It's not a resonance spike at 5kHz.

 

When listening to loudspeakers there is a resonance "bump" (not a spike) centered around 3kHz.  This is not present when wearing headphones.  Thus headphone frequency response needs to be boosted around 3kHz (not cut around 5kHz) to compensate.

 

There is nothing in sound science supporting the addition of a near total cutout around 5kHz.  If people stop pretending that there is, I suspect people like Rin and Inks would stop ranting about it too.  The amount of twisting of science terminology I've seen here to justify a silly mistake is absurd.

 

I tried adding a notch filter at 5kHz to my Etys, it didn't sound too terrible... but it sure as heck sounded better without it.

post #678 of 1294

Mimouille, 

 

Head fi va se casser la gueule..... c'est terrible de voir que même notre passion est entachée par de la desinformation. stupide et incorrecte. 

post #679 of 1294
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Originally Posted by sly_in_the_sky View Post

Inks you are always here criticising products with your graphs arguments...if I remember, don't you also do that in Heir 4AI thread? Sorry if I made a mistake by saying that....

 

And just another question because I prefer to ask it to you instead of searching that in this thread but did you try the SM 64?

 

I THINK THAT PEOPLE NEVER HAVING LISTENED TO A PRODUCT SHOULD NOT SPEAK ABOUT WHAT THEY DONT KNOW AND TRY TO DESTROY COMPANIES USING NOT COMPLETE INFORMATIONS PLEASE....PLEASE STOP YOUR STUPID CRUSADES...FOR WHAT COMPANIES ARE YOU WORKING? IT'S A HOBBY....JUST FOR FUN....PLEASE REMEMBER....

 

I personnaly NEVER said something negative about a product I have never tried...NEVER....!!!!! 

 

If one can not criticize a product based on 3rd party measurements but have to purchase every product before commenting on them these companies not knowing a damn thing about sound reproduction will get very rich indeed.  Oh wait, nobody pays attention to our criticisms anyway and they already are very rich.

 

If somebody handed them a single driver Cosmic Ears and told them it cost the same as the SM64 I'm 99% certain they'd give the nod to the CE.  The amount of money wasted is just sad.


Edited by Joe Bloggs - 6/27/13 at 12:58am
post #680 of 1294
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Originally Posted by Joe Bloggs View Post

 

If one can not criticize a product based on 3rd party measurements but have to purchase every product before commenting on them these companies not knowing a damn thing about sound reproduction will get very rich indeed.  Oh wait, nobody pays attention to our criticisms anyway and they already are very rich.

 

If somebody handed them a single driver Cosmic Ears and told them it cost the SM64 I'm 99% certain they'd give the nod to the CE.  The amount of money wasted is just sad.

It's like a scapegoat, I have been in this hobby for years, a FR isn't going to tell me everything, but a HUGE flaw like this won't go unnoticed, it never has. Yes, that is why companies like Heir Audio and ES are making good money, even though they don't know a damn thing. Price-bias is also huge around these parts, when in reality, rarely is a high-priced IEM in a tier the price will suggest. 


Edited by Inks - 6/27/13 at 1:02am
post #681 of 1294

You did not understood....

 

I don't say that you can't criticise.....but you cant keep on and keeep on and keep on and keeep on and keep on..... just pointing one "weakness" and sometimes without having listened to a product...

 

When someone akt like this, one should ask himself why... is it for the GOOD of the audiophile humanity?...MMmHHHH????

 

And I trust those who give real impressions before buying....not only because someone show me a graph...


Edited by sly_in_the_sky - 6/27/13 at 1:05am
post #682 of 1294
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Originally Posted by Inks View Post

It's like a scapegoat, I have been in this hobby for years, a FR isn't going to tell me everything, but a HUGE flaw like this won't go unnoticed, it never has. Yes, that is why companies like Heir Audio and ES are making good money, even though they don't know a damn thing. 

 

 

So easy to criticise.....

 

You know what, guys like you will made lot of people like me go away from Head-fi..... 

post #683 of 1294
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Originally Posted by Inks View Post

lol the same curve FAD finally follows now. 


 Yes, that's why FAD stands for Fancy Abominable Devices.

post #684 of 1294
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Originally Posted by sly_in_the_sky View Post

So easy to criticise.....

 

You know what, guys like you will made lot of people like me go away from Head-fi..... 

 

And guys like you have sued jude to ban even more people like us from head-fi, when all we wanted to do was give people the chance to listen to better sound for less.

 

(God only knows who xnor pissed off but we mourn the loss of another objectivist today at head-fi frown.gif)


Edited by Joe Bloggs - 6/27/13 at 1:08am
post #685 of 1294

Are you pointing at me?

 

Hey I am not the one to push or speak about only expensive products... please...

 

I just bought a vsonic GR 07 and my god, they sound very good to me (ink I just dont'give a ..... about graph, no need to show me one).....

 

I also love Heir audio even If I don't like the 5.0...and spoke a lot about the Heir 4ai/A that I owned...so...and it's a little company...

 

I also buyed from Rhapsodio so please, I don't work for nobody.... 


Edited by sly_in_the_sky - 6/27/13 at 1:13am
post #686 of 1294
Originally Posted by sly_in_the_sky View Post

Are you pointing at me?

 

Hey I am not the one to push only expensive products... please...

 

I just bought a vsonic GR 07 and my god, they sound very good to me (ink I just dont'give a ..... about graph, no need to show me one).....

lol, don't worry, the GR07 doesn't have any major flaws, there's a reason why it has been so popular for so long, while FOTMs come and go. 

post #687 of 1294

It's not GR 07 thread but if you say that they have no major flaws... mmhhh.... to my ears they have (like always in these discussions in the medium/treble transition...)...But I mainly trust my ears and just look to graphs just as informations.

post #688 of 1294

Gentlemen, this is the EarSonics Impressions thread not the Fight Club thread. Come on now, you're all far more intelligent then that.

post #689 of 1294

+1... you are right but at one moment, when someone keeps on destroying a good product, someone else has to react...sorry.... 

 

I am not the one that often do posts, look at the date of my inscription and the number of posts...

 

I promess to come less and less here... and let people like  who you know, destroy good products... 

 

Keep on giving informations, not desinformation....

 

What is important I think that it's to trust lot of people and many impressions, and to build one opinion by listening to many many people impressions and feedback... but not just A GRAPH given by just one or two people keeping and keeping to throw bombs..... When will people learn fron history and understand that LISTENING TO ONE ONLY INFORMATION IS DANGEROUS?

 

I stop here.... for today. 


Edited by sly_in_the_sky - 6/27/13 at 1:27am
post #690 of 1294
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Originally Posted by sly_in_the_sky View Post

+1... you are right but at one moment, when someone keeps on destroying a good product, someone else has to react...sorry.... 

 

And keep on giving informations, not desinformation....


No no no you are wrong my fellow receptable of frequencies. The SM64 are unnaceptable. And all FAD iems are unnaceptable. And the Sui is a poor attempt at an IEM. And the 4ai are unnaceptable. And the Tera player is unnaceptable. And I am forgetting all the other things that are unnaceptable and should be controlled and banned by the CEIDOS (Commission for Elimination of IEMs and DAPs with Original Signature).

 

On the other hand, the new DIY model build by the Commission, the Flat-o-Phone X, is the only acceptable IEM. It has a purely flat graph. It is said that it is so boring, you could use it to put Iggy Pop to bed after he took 10 grams of blow. However it is perfectly flat. And it comes in brightish grey (not too bright), neutral grey and darkish grey (not too dark). It goes great with the Commission's new grey uniforms with the "In Graph We Trust" logo in the back. I love to listen to frequency testing sounds in the morning when walking towards the Graphing Mega-Complex.

 

This post means offense to no one, I am really just kidding (just in case the Commission does exist).

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