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^^^ I was replying to molika's post.
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Where to buy these in the USA?

How do the shures sound in comparison?

not sure were you get them in the US, I'm in Australia. the olives are very comfortable, great isolation. bass is fantastic, the hippo/phonac are a bit brighter. no loss of detail with the shure and no impact on soundstage to my ears. best thing is they last longer than any of the foam tips. I find the hippo better than the westone stars at least for comfort.
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Just got these babies, have to say, they kinda remind me of the Westone W40's...have to listen more to get a handle on them.
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Eye candy anyone?

SM64 V2 with hybrid HPL cable and Westone Stars
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Eye candy anyone?

SM64 V2 with hybrid HPL cable and Westone Stars
Nice dude....what did the cable set you back?
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Nice dude....what did the cable set you back?

Thanks. Picked it up secondhand off the FS forum for under $100
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Thanks. Picked it up secondhand off the FS forum for under $100


Do you like that cable better than stock?

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Do you like that cable better than stock?

I do! There's a small but noticeable improvement in clarity.

Ironically I've decided to sell it as I've gotten another different cable for free!
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So while trying to avoid studying for my med school exams this week I purchased these... and read this whole thread.  I've been looking for an upgrade from my westone 3s and TDK ba200s, so I've been looking at mostly the westone 4s (worried about the so called veil, which i sorta hear on my W3), the noble 4s (just couldn't find enough info on these), and these.  Anyways I'll be getting them tomorrow so yay!

 

I know there has been some discussion on aftermarket cables but I was wondering if anyone has found any cable that have inline controls (3 button iphone preferably) and mic functions?  I know shure makes them but they are mmcx connectors (are there female mmcx to male 2 pin convertors?) and UE used to make them (the pins were inverted though?  couldn't really understand those threads) but don't sell them anymore.  Anyone find any other options?

 

Thanks!

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So while trying to avoid studying for my med school exams this week I purchased these... and read this whole thread.  I've been looking for an upgrade from my westone 3s and TDK ba200s, so I've been looking at mostly the westone 4s (worried about the so called veil, which i sorta hear on my W3), the noble 4s (just couldn't find enough info on these), and these.  Anyways I'll be getting them tomorrow so yay!

 

I know there has been some discussion on aftermarket cables but I was wondering if anyone has found any cable that have inline controls (3 button iphone preferably) and mic functions?  I know shure makes them but they are mmcx connectors (are there female mmcx to male 2 pin convertors?) and UE used to make them (the pins were inverted though?  couldn't really understand those threads) but don't sell them anymore.  Anyone find any other options?

 

Thanks!

This is really tough. I spent many months trying to find good quality cables with mic/button functionality. I concluded that to get a great cable with a mic on an iem, you have to buy it factory made or installed, so AKG K3K would be the ultimate example of good quality hp with a nice mic or etymotic has some nice mics. Otherwise, I have my SM64 and an etymotic with a mic for each use. This doesn't mean, however, it's not possible to find a cable for the SM64. Honestly, I would start with a company that makes a lot of different cables, like Whiplash or Beat, and ask if they can add mics. If they say no, ask them who does or where you could find someone who does. That would be be your best lead.

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Originally Posted by redrising98 View Post

So while trying to avoid studying for my med school exams this week I purchased these... and read this whole thread.  I've been looking for an upgrade from my westone 3s and TDK ba200s, so I've been looking at mostly the westone 4s (worried about the so called veil, which i sorta hear on my W3), the noble 4s (just couldn't find enough info on these), and these.  Anyways I'll be getting them tomorrow so yay!

I know there has been some discussion on aftermarket cables but I was wondering if anyone has found any cable that have inline controls (3 button iphone preferably) and mic functions?  I know shure makes them but they are mmcx connectors (are there female mmcx to male 2 pin convertors?) and UE used to make them (the pins were inverted though?  couldn't really understand those threads) but don't sell them anymore.  Anyone find any other options?

Thanks!

So you should have received them.... What you think?
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So you should have received them.... What you think?

My postman doesn't come till the evening... so I'm sitting here halfheartedly studying heh.

 

I'll post impressions soon as I get some time with them.  (last test tomorrow woo!)

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My postman doesn't come till the evening... so I'm sitting here halfheartedly studying heh.

 

I'll post impressions soon as I get some time with them.  (last test tomorrow woo!)

Well, good luck to you then and have fun with your new IEMs ;)

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Okay so here goes...

 

Not sure if I could possibly say anything novel that much more qualified members haven't already said but here are my quick and dirty 2 cents:

 

Packaging: super simple, just the necessities...

Build quality: somewhat rough on the edges, look pretty industrial, seem pretty sturdy though.  Cable is nice and supple.  Ear guides are quite short and seem somewhat unnecessary to me.  Connector is built like a tank... which is good and bad.  Good as it is super sturdy but bad as it interferes with the case on my iphone and doesn't allow a solid/flush connection (I know... first world problems)

Sound:  The main attraction

Bass: Wonderful...  Don't really know what else to say.  I came from KEF M200s that blew me away my W3s in terms of bass but the SM64s take the bass to a whole new level.  The extension is deep but wonderfully flat.  I don't feel like there is any hump or emphasis on upper or lower bass, it just sounds... pure.  No distortion, tight, a wonderful slight rumble.  They almost present a sense of anticipation with the subtle decay. Doesn't bleed at all.

Mids: So as a new headfier I'm not sure what ranges really fall in the category of mids so I'm mainly going to talk about the vocals and instruments (guitar mostly).  Guitars sound nice and crunchy with great texture.  Vocals are pretty special.  Extremely clear and detailed (almost to a fault on poor recordings... you can really hear bad mastering with these) it sounds like the singers are in the room with you.  My main criticism would be that the vocals could be a bit less detailed actually (its like someone when a bit overboard with the contrast in photoshop)... some smoothing of the voices would make these much more forgiving and liquid.

Treble: Overall the SM64 is slightly dark so the treble isn't that prominent.  That doesn't mean its not there and in the songs that have it they give a really nice airy presentation.  I haven't had a chance to listen to too many treble heavy songs yet (explained later).  No sibilance to my ears at all either though.

Soundstage:  Best of what I've heard (this is the most expensive IEM I've heard though so take that with a grain of salt).  Quite wide but more importantly, very deep.  Much closer to a sphere than most IEMs (wide wide ovals lol).  Separation is great as well and I thought the SM64s were really special in being able to 'fill up' the soundstage.  Instruments seem occupy various layers instead of all being far away or super close.  I'd say they place you about 4/5 rows away from the stage.  Not right next to the singers (HF2s) or in the balcony (Q701s).

 

Now for the caveat to all the above: the infamous Earsonics QC...

When I first inspected the new SM64s I noticed a small crack on the bottom of the right earpiece... I'd read this thread and was almost expecting some blemishes... so no problem.

Then I played music through my iphone... mids, highs all sounded great.  Bass even sounded excellent, but the bass sounded heavily shifted to my left.  Thought it could be the song so I played some other bass heavy tracks... same thing.  Maybe my iphone was the issue? (hopefully not although they both cost about the same lol)  Hooked the SM64s to my Dragonfly DAC out of my laptop... same issue.  Maybe I was the issue?  Had the girlfriend listen (not an audiophile by any means... though I've tried)...

 

Definitely something wrong with the SM64s. ;-(

 

I will say though, even with the defective bass on the right side... I still haven't taken these out of my ears... they're that good... even half broken lol

 

Sent earphonesolutions an email so we'll see how they handle it.  But now I'm somewhat conflicted about getting another pair and risking a similar problem or switching to something else.  My main alternative is the westone W40... I own the W3 and trust westone's build quality (and better accessories heh) but I wanted an upgrade from the W3s cuz I can't stand the veil and midbass hump. From what I've read of the W4/W40s, they are definitely improved... but still exhibit some of that Westone "house sound"...  Anyone have any thoughts?

 

I'll update this post with what happens and hopefully get to flesh out the mini-impressions.

 

Ps. thanks for the well wishes Tom Yum 


Edited by redrising98 - 4/23/14 at 7:17pm
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Originally Posted by redrising98 View Post
 

Okay so here goes...

 

Not sure if I could possibly say anything novel that much more qualified members haven't already said but here are my quick and dirty 2 cents:

 

Packaging: super simple, just the necessities...

Build quality: somewhat rough on the edges, look pretty industrial, seem pretty sturdy though.  Cable is nice and supple.  Ear guides are quite short and seem somewhat unnecessary to me.  Connector is built like a tank... which is good and bad.  Good as it is super sturdy but bad as it interferes with the case on my iphone and doesn't allow a solid/flush connection (I know... first world problems)

Sound:  The main attraction

Bass: Wonderful...  Don't really know what else to say.  I came from KEF M200s that blew me away my W3s in terms of bass but the SM64s take the bass to a whole new level.  The extension is deep but wonderfully flat.  I don't feel like there is any hump or emphasis on upper or lower bass, it just sounds... pure.  No distortion, tight, a wonderful slight rumble.  They almost present a sense of anticipation with the subtle decay. Doesn't bleed at all.

Mids: So as a new headfier I'm not sure what ranges really fall in the category of mids so I'm mainly going to talk about the vocals and instruments (guitar mostly).  Guitars sound nice and crunchy with great texture.  Vocals are pretty special.  Extremely clear and detailed (almost to a fault on poor recordings... you can really hear bad mastering with these) it sounds like the singers are in the room with you.  My main criticism would be that the vocals could be a bit less detailed actually (its like someone when a bit overboard with the contrast in photoshop)... some smoothing of the voices would make these much more forgiving and liquid.

Treble: Overall the SM64 is slightly dark so the treble isn't that prominent.  That doesn't mean its not there and in the songs that have it they give a really nice airy presentation.  I haven't had a chance to listen to too many treble heavy songs yet (explained later).  No sibilance to my ears at all either though.

Soundstage:  Best of what I've heard (this is the most expensive IEM I've heard though so take that with a grain of salt).  Quite wide but more importantly, very deep.  Much closer to a sphere than most IEMs (wide wide ovals lol).  Separation is great as well and I thought the SM64s were really special in being able to 'fill up' the soundstage.  Instruments seem occupy various layers instead of all being far away or super close.  I'd say they place you about 4/5 rows away from the stage.  Not right next to the singers (HF2s) or in the balcony (Q701s).

 

Now for the caveat to all the above: the infamous Earsonics QC...

When I first inspected the new SM64s I noticed a small crack on the bottom of the right earpiece... I'd read this thread and was almost expecting some blemishes... so no problem.

Then I played music through my iphone... mids, highs all sounded great.  Bass even sounded excellent, but the bass sounded heavily shifted to my left.  Thought it could be the song so I played some other bass heavy tracks... same thing.  Maybe my iphone was the issue? (hopefully not although they both cost about the same lol)  Hooked the SM64s to my Dragonfly DAC out of my laptop... same issue.  Maybe I was the issue?  Had the girlfriend listen (not an audiophile by any means... though I've tried)...

 

Definitely something wrong with the SM64s. ;-(

 

I will say though, even with the defective bass on the right side... I still haven't taken these out of my ears... they're that good... even half broken lol

 

Sent earphonesolutions an email so we'll see how they handle it.  But now I'm somewhat conflicted about getting another pair and risking a similar problem or switching to something else.  My main alternative is the westone W40... I own the W3 and trust westone's build quality (and better accessories heh) but I wanted an upgrade from the W3s cuz I can't stand the veil and midbass hump. From what I've read of the W4/W40s, they are definitely improved... but still exhibit some of that Westone "house sound"...  Anyone have any thoughts?

 

I'll update this post with what happens and hopefully get to flesh out the mini-impressions.

 

Ps. thanks for the well wishes Tom Yum 

 

For what it is worth I sold my Westone UM3X and W4R after hearing my SM64. i would try my hand at another one. Flavio is very customer friendly...maybe he would check another pair before he sends them to you.

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