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OK traded for a almost brand new pair of re400 's and all I can say is... Wow.. This is what I've been looking for for a very long time.. Spent hundreds and hundreds on higher priced iems and as they are all nice sounding of course.. These almost beet every single pair in clarity and detail.. I'm a detail junkie and these just gave me just what I've always been looking for.. And I can't believe they are only around 100 bucks.. Come on are all these other so called high end company's.. The Westones.. The shures.. And so on.. Paying attention to hifiman.?? Well they better.. :-P. Way to hifiman.. I'm very new to this company but I sure know where my hard earned dollars will be going.. Thanks :-). Very happy..

 



Hi

I'm pretty sure you own the Senn IE80 too, how do these compare with RE-400. I'm about to pull the trigger on these or maybe the GR07 mk2.

I like the IE80 but just cannot seem to love them and cannot justify the cost for the level of performance they offer.

I too love detail and clarity. I also prefer a clean studio type sound with nothing masked or overdone. Can you recommend me one over the other? (RE-400/GR07mk2)

My main genre is electronic, some 80's, Michael Jackson, soundtrack (Hans Zimmer) etc

Thanks

i have personal experience with the re400s and the gr07 but the be edition if i had to pick one i would go for the gr07 it has a better package all together (if you exclude the price) 

 

the cable on the hifiman is really thin and it kinks and its just not good compare to the gr07 (now for if you take in consideration its price and the sound quality) they had to cut costs on the cable to make a profit i understand

 

but if you need isolation go for the re400s. i find the gr07 just okay in isolation

 

but it seems like you could benefit from the extra bass the gr07 offers for the genres you listed. i would try to be actually, even though its considered bass enhanced its now where near my monster turbines or my jvc fxr 80s ( and by no where i really mean that) its more >re400 though if i had to put it in a diagram in terms of bass

 

( monster turbines)---(jvc fxr80)----------------------------------(gr07be)--------------(hifimanre400)

 

<-- bassy                                                                                                                        neutral

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i have personal experience with the re400s and the gr07 but the be edition if i had to pick one i would go for the gr07 it has a better package all together (if you exclude the price) 

the cable on the hifiman is really thin and it kinks and its just not good compare to the gr07 (now for if you take in consideration its price and the sound quality) they had to cut costs on the cable to make a profit i understand

but if you need isolation go for the re400s. i find the gr07 just okay in isolation

but it seems like you could benefit from the extra bass the gr07 offers for the genres you listed. i would try to be actually, even though its considered bass enhanced its now where near my monster turbines or my jvc fxr 80s ( and by no where i really mean that) its more >re400 though if i had to put it in a diagram in terms of bass

( monster turbines)---(jvc fxr80)
(gr07be)
(hifimanre400)

<-- bassy                                                                                                                        neutral

Thank you, a very useful comparison. I have already ordered the re400, isolation was one of the deciding factors as I travel on london underground.

Look forward to receiving them, will post my impressions of them when I do.
post #183 of 293
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Thank you, a very useful comparison. I have already ordered the re400, isolation was one of the deciding factors as I travel on london underground.

Look forward to receiving them, will post my impressions of them when I do.

no problem the re400 is one earphone i think everyone should try, even though its $99 a bit higher than others, i think its a great first step to realizing sound quality that can rival at least even some 150$ earphones or more. 

 

plus is very practical with the design and isolation etc

post #184 of 293
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no problem the re400 is one earphone i think everyone should try, even though its $99 a bit higher than others, i think its a great first step to realizing sound quality that can rival at least even some 150$ earphones or more. 

 

plus is very practical with the design and isolation etc

 



I've gone on a bit of a spree recently and have also bought the GR07 mkii.

I'll have a chance to compare IE80, RE-400 and GR07mkii at some point in the near future.

I may end up keeping them all, or sell the weakest one and have 2 decent IEMs to listen to depending on music/mood.
post #185 of 293
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no problem the re400 is one earphone i think everyone should try, even though its $99 a bit higher than others, i think its a great first step to realizing sound quality that can rival at least even some 150$ earphones or more. 

 

plus is very practical with the design and isolation etc

 



I've gone on a bit of a spree recently and have also bought the GR07 mkii.

I'll have a chance to compare IE80, RE-400 and GR07mkii at some point in the near future.
I may end up keeping them all, or sell the weakest one and have 2 decent IEMs to listen to depending on music/mood.

You think you went on spree? Lol the last 6 months i purchased the re 400 (130$New) gr07 be (100 used) monster turbines (50 used) jvc fxr 80(45new)

I want my money back!!!
Edited by Tom22 - 1/3/14 at 8:16am
post #186 of 293
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oooooooh re400 vs ie8 (well 80 but ive heard the 8)

 

they are radically different IEM's that do very different things.  very very very different. 

 

oh also you say cost but not what cost, senns in the US tend to be rather more than say in the UK so here the difference is about x2 but where you are maybe could be x4.

 

tbh while a like them both the 400 is mid and bassy with very good but a hint subdeud highs  the senn is a big V shaped with epicly vast soundstaging.  the ie8 is the better, particularly in the highs as it has somo of the best highs on any IEM ever. still its a bass monster.

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oooooooh re400 vs ie8 (well 80 but ive heard the 8)

they are radically different IEM's that do very different things.  very very very different. 

oh also you say cost but not what cost, senns in the US tend to be rather more than say in the UK so here the difference is about x2 but where you are maybe could be x4.

tbh while a like them both the 400 is mid and bassy with very good but a hint subdeud highs  the senn is a big V shaped with epicly vast soundstaging.  the ie8 is the better, particularly in the highs as it has somo of the best highs on any IEM ever. still its a bass monster.
Hi mark.. I haven't heard the i8 but I have the ie80's so I'm not sure what the difference in sound is if any.. Your right it is a very v shape sounding iem.. The bass is kinda bloated though.. Specially compared to the re400. I love my re400 pretty neatrel sounding.. Well close I guess compared to others.. Anyways I use the tape mod with the ie80's and that helps the bass alot.. It brings the mids closer to the front too. It also brings out alot more detail and making the highs even sound better.. Just curious if you have tried the tape mod? And if so what do you think? Thanks Mark..
post #188 of 293
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i think the IE8 and 80 are essentially the same.

 

tape mod?  nope.  i pretty much never mod things.  tbh i have so many what the point.  if i want something that sounds different i pick up a different IEM.

 

i might pair a particular amp or source to things though.  that can make things change quite a bit.

post #189 of 293
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i think the IE8 and 80 are essentially the same.

tape mod?  nope.  i pretty much never mod things.  tbh i have so many what the point.  if i want something that sounds different i pick up a different IEM.

i might pair a particular amp or source to things though.  that can make things change quite a bit.
I'm pretty much the same way.. I have like tons of different iems. And couple different amps.. Dap's and so on.. It took a while for me to try the tape mod and to be honest I'm glad I did.. Makes them sound a whole lot better for sure.. And very easy to do.. I thought they sounded great for about the first month or so but once they broke in that changed imo.. They use to sound more dramatic..drum rolls for instance were more prominent.. Now they are alot softer.. Things just seem more calm.. Sorry not to good at explaining terms sometimes just know what I mean....
post #190 of 293
Got my re-400 in the post yesterday. Been listening on and off. First thing i thought was where has the bass gone! Coming from the ie80 this was expected though.

I'm really liking them actually, very linear sounding, clear and concise. The soundstage is smaller compared to the ie80 and again i was expecting this. The bass is present when the music calls for it and it has good speed and control. Mids and highs are well balanced with nice bit of sparkle.

Does anyone know if they change at all with burn in? And in what way?

Overall they are very different to the ie80. I feel lucky to have them and a different type of iem for different moods/music types.
post #191 of 293
Hello All,
These IEMS have become my go to phones. I use it with my Ibasso DX50, and they sound amazing! I know a lot of people on this forum don't agree with me on this pairing but I think it is the type of music you listen to that makes the difference. 70s Prog rock, Classical, and Jazz sound amazing! I can't believe this quality exists for a mere 100.00!
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no problem the re400 is one earphone i think everyone should try, even though its $99 a bit higher than others, i think its a great first step to realizing sound quality that can rival at least even some 150$ earphones or more. 

 

plus is very practical with the design and isolation etc

 



I've gone on a bit of a spree recently and have also bought the GR07 mkii.

I'll have a chance to compare IE80, RE-400 and GR07mkii at some point in the near future.

I may end up keeping them all, or sell the weakest one and have 2 decent IEMs to listen to depending on music/mood.

Hello,
I am curious, have you had a chance to test the GR07mk2s yet?
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Hello,
I am curious, have you had a chance to test the GR07mk2s yet?

No, they are coming from HK to UK, I think i may get them either towards the end of the coming week or the week after.

Will post impressions when I get them!
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Hello,
I am curious, have you had a chance to test the GR07mk2s yet?

i'm not sure if this question was intended for me but no i haven't tested the gr07 mk2 i probably won't for a while, if my gr07 be bites the dust i would probably grab a set of gr07 classic edition (which is rumored to be the gr07 but at a cheaper price point) which would make it my pick for 100$ iem over the re400.

 

but just reading joker's review and many other's comments, the i think theres not too much point getting both the mk2 or the be edition unless just for the sake of comparison.

 

it seems the treble is left untouched the mids a just a shade recessed on the be compare to the mk2 and the bass boost in the mid bass is a bit toned down. (even looking at the frequency graph it looks pretty close with probably 1-3 db in the midbass boost

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Originally Posted by e30pilot View Post

Got my re-400 in the post yesterday. Been listening on and off. First thing i thought was where has the bass gone! Coming from the ie80 this was expected though.

I'm really liking them actually, very linear sounding, clear and concise. The soundstage is smaller compared to the ie80 and again i was expecting this. The bass is present when the music calls for it and it has good speed and control. Mids and highs are well balanced with nice bit of sparkle.

Does anyone know if they change at all with burn in? And in what way?

Overall they are very different to the ie80. I feel lucky to have them and a different type of iem for different moods/music types.

I haven't noticed any big change with burn-in. The bass did seem punchier to me. But I believe this was more of a brain-burn-in effect.

 

I'm glad you're enjoying them. If you find the sub-bass lacking(like I do), you could try a narrow lift of a few dBs at ~35Hz. They do respond well to EQ.

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