Head-Fi.org › Forums › Head-Fi Network & Industry News › NEWS: Beats in a lawsuit with Yamaha
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

NEWS: Beats in a lawsuit with Yamaha - Page 33

post #481 of 489
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blinxat View Post
 

I am glad I sold it fast. It is nice to touch, elegant, seems well made, but the sound isn't on the same level. It is quite resolving but the sound has no authority, to little bass and too dry bass, vocals don't sound natural, highs meh. It has no head bobbing factor to it at all. It is not a fun sound in general. If you like vocals through a curtain maybe these are your cans.

 

It is also not very efficient even though it is low ohmed.

I love the Momentum, but at no point do I feel the bass is not enough or the vocals are 'through a curtain'. 

Vocals are perfect to my ears. None of the usual high-mid emphasis on female vocals that ruins vocals by making them sound nasal.

Treble is there, it's sparkly and detailed, just a little quiet. 

 
Originally Posted by Blinxat View Post

I am glad I sold it fast. 

Please don't trash-talk about a headphone if you havn't even spent much time with it. 

post #482 of 489
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blinxat View Post
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Macedo View Post

I can't comment on the sound because I never tried any sennheiser momentum

 

I am glad I sold it fast. It is nice to touch, elegant, seems well made, but the sound isn't on the same level. It is quite resolving but the sound has no authority, to little bass and too dry bass, vocals don't sound natural, highs meh. It has no head bobbing factor to it at all. It is not a fun sound in general. If you like vocals through a curtain maybe these are your cans.

 

It is also not very efficient even though it is low ohmed.

um

 

the bass is nearly 10dB above the treble, are you insane

 

its also very linear up until the bottom of the upper midrange so vocals should sound wonderful

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by GREQ View Post
 
Please don't trash-talk about a headphone if you havn't even spent much time with it. 

also this


Edited by takato14 - 7/8/14 at 12:21pm
post #483 of 489
Voicing an opinion is not trash talking.

A week and half with a headphone including an 11 hour train ride is sufficient to judge it in my book.

Do you own the headphone? Not all headphones sound like their frequency response graph suggest. I think this is true for the Momentum.

But lets not derail the thread.

I think the goldenears interpretation of its sonic qualities is spot on. Nothing special. Thats all.
post #484 of 489
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blinxat View Post

Voicing an opinion is not trash talking.

A week and half with a headphone including an 11 hour train ride is sufficient to judge it in my book.

Do you own the headphone? Not all headphones sound like their frequency response graph suggest. I think this is true for the Momentum.

But lets not derail the thread.

I think the goldenears interpretation of its sonic qualities is spot on. Nothing special. Thats all.

A week and a half is not enough time to decide whether you like a headphone. I've had my Pioneer Monitor 10-II for nearly 2 months and I'm only just now starting to realize how amazing it is.

 

I do not own the momentum, but I have heard it; a friend of mine has a pair. If it did anything right, it was bass and vocals. Tyll Hertsens' graphs support this.

 

It was a bit slow and lacked impact, and had a little bit of reflection/resonance in the cups. The graphs support this as well. 

 

I didn't think it was anything special either, but not because of the reasons you listed. I wanted more treble, better seperation, better control, and better comfort. 

 

The original conversation topic of this thread was resolved a long time ago. I'm pretty sure no one cares if a couple people talk about something else here instead of making a new thread specifically for us to debate in.

post #485 of 489
I love Tyll's reviews! My headphone bible, but he is a sennheiser fanboy biggrin.gif
post #486 of 489
Quote:
Originally Posted by groovyd View Post
 

i think it is a shame in general that more companies don't just focus on doing one thing and doing it right.  motorcycles -and- headphones? how about motorcycles -or- headphones instead.

Yamaha makes great motorcycles and great pianos. They should go into an ice cream business too.


Edited by zorin - 7/8/14 at 7:58pm
post #487 of 489
Quote:
Originally Posted by zorin View Post
 

Yamaha makes great motorcycles and great pianos. They should go into an ice cream business too.


They also led the competive archery world for years until they decided to get out. Their bows are the stuff of legends and fetch a fortune today.

post #488 of 489

If Beats are suing Yamaha, what are they going to do about these new 'rip-offs' ?

 

Syllable G04 Noise Cancellation DJ Dynamic Headphone Hifi Stereo Folding Wired Headset/Earphone for iPhone/iPod/MP3/Blackberry

Syllable G04 Noise Cancellation DJ Dynamic Headphones

 

 

CNP-8803 Professional HD Folding Style Headphone 3.5mm Earphone Jack Headset

CNP-8803 Professional HD Folding Style Headphones [...all for 12 dollars and 31 cents, including shipping. The mailing would cost like 10 dollars; that means these headphones are worth about 2 dollars. The materials, the manufacturing costs, the transport/distribution costs and the retail cut of the price would take almost everything from the remaining 2-3 dollars. Now what kind of a driver, costing pennies, is in these headphones, what kind of sound does it make ? The sales pitch says "professional" and "High Definition" sound]


Edited by zorin - 8/14/14 at 10:03pm
post #489 of 489
Quote:
Originally Posted by zorin View Post
 

If Beats are suing Yamaha, what are they going to do about these new 'rip-offs' ?

 

Syllable G04 Noise Cancellation DJ Dynamic Headphone Hifi Stereo Folding Wired Headset/Earphone for iPhone/iPod/MP3/Blackberry

Syllable G04 Noise Cancellation DJ Dynamic Headphones

 

 

CNP-8803 Professional HD Folding Style Headphone 3.5mm Earphone Jack Headset

CNP-8803 Professional HD Folding Style Headphones [...all for 12 dollars and 31 cents, including shipping. The mailing would cost like 10 dollars; that means these headphones are worth about 2 dollars. The materials, the manufacturing costs, the transport/distribution costs and the retail cut of the price would take almost everything from the remaining 2-3 dollars. Now what kind of a driver, costing pennies, is in these headphones, what kind of sound does it make ? The sales pitch says "professional" and "High Definition" sound]

Nothing! Beats can't do anything about those (not new) knock-offs. If a factory closes down, another will quickly take its place. Tough luck, since the Syllables are pretty much 1:1 A grade replicas of the real thing, just without the red b logo. People only pay for that logo anyway, so Beats probably doesn't see the point in spending time and money to do something about it.

 

The Professional HD folding ones are probably D grade replicas that only look the part, and use low quality plastic (even for the hinges that are meant to be stainless steel) and super thin wiring.

 

In terms of the speaker driver, the A grades will have something similar to the ones pictured on the left, and the D grades will have something similar to the ones pictured on the right.

 

 

The A grade drivers have a thicker, denser diaphragm and a larger, stronger neodymium magnet. They also have an overall better build quality than the D grade ones. Some A grade replicas even replicate the ANC circuit, complete with bass boost and dual electret condenser mics for the ANC, but because they don't use Monster's titanium coated drivers, they generally sound better than the originals.

 

The D grades, jokes aside, do not sound better than the genuine article. They lack detail (even Beats' selective detailing does better; sorry, haters) and sound like they have a range of 200-10,000 Hz.

New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Head-Fi Network & Industry News
Head-Fi.org › Forums › Head-Fi Network & Industry News › NEWS: Beats in a lawsuit with Yamaha