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post #196 of 487
This is just my opinion:

As long as Yamaha didn't steal any patents from Dre, or take Dres headphones and put their name on it, Yamaha should be left alone. I suppose that Dre got too afraid that the Yamaha would out perform, and out sell his product, so the first reaction: lawsuit. I'm personally pulling for Yamaha on this one, and I hope they can come to a good agreement throughout the entire process.

Think what you want though. smily_headphones1.gif
post #197 of 487
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Originally Posted by biggbenn74 View Post

This is just my opinion:

As long as Yamaha didn't steal any patents from Dre, or take Dres headphones and put their name on it, Yamaha should be left alone. I suppose that Dre got too afraid that the Yamaha would out perform, and out sell his product, so the first reaction: lawsuit. I'm personally pulling for Yamaha on this one, and I hope they can come to a good agreement throughout the entire process.

Think what you want though. smily_headphones1.gif

 

You're thinking like an audiophile, which is far from Beats' market. Yamaha can't outsell Beats because they lack what makes Beats sell: publicity from rappers and pop singers. It would hardly matter if the Yamahas were the best in their class sound-wise, this would only appeal to a niche.

In my guess, Beats sued them because it's an outright provocation. I really don't care much about Yamaha, although like I said as long as they don't copy the B logo and have their clearly showing, they aren't copying anything.

post #198 of 487

While those do look similar, I believe it's a good step. By 'stealing' Beats customers due to looks, perhaps those customers will also realize the sound quality being better and then, MAYBE, they'll become better educated on good quality sound overall. Maybe.. maybe people will stop buying headphones due to looks entirely and other not as 'hip' headphones will get more business.

post #199 of 487

yeah, that's like the 50th company to make headphones that look JUST like the beats.

post #200 of 487

They have a point here. I don't get why Yamaha resorted to that; they are a serious company that doesn't need that kind of rip-off. I heard they sound way better than beats (not that it is something hard to accomplish). 


Edited by Arkyle - 2/19/13 at 10:36pm
post #201 of 487
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Originally Posted by steffanan View Post

yeah, that's like the 50th company to make headphones that look JUST like the beats.

But there's a huge difference. We are talking about YAMAHA here, not some new company made specifically to steal others' designs. 

post #202 of 487

Wonder if Yamaha is trying to clear their inventory, because the Yamaha PRO 500 is on sale at Amazon (in Black or Blue) for $302.

 

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0092T858E

 

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post #203 of 487
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Originally Posted by BloodyPenguin View Post

Wonder if Yamaha is trying to clear their inventory, because the Yamaha PRO 500 is on sale at Amazon (in Black or Blue) for $302.

 

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0092T858E

 

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anyone know the sound signature of these?

post #204 of 487
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Originally Posted by pokpokgei View Post

 

anyone know the sound signature of these?

I had a quick listen at B&H Photo and I thought they sounded nice. My reference headphones are the V-Moda M-100s and I thought the clarity was comparable with the M-100s having an edge in detail retrieval. The 500s have a mid-bass hump, which is not surprising given their aesthetics, and the bass has plenty of slam although it's not as tight or controlled as the M-100s, but bass is definitely the defining sound frequency. The mids were forward and more pronounced than the M-100, which have been criticized for having a "laid-back" or "recessed" midrange. The last thing I'm going to comment on is its soundstage which is on par for closed circumaurals. It is noticeably not as wide was the M-100 and more of a "in your head" kind of feel.

 

This is just from a quick listen and I only used one song so take this with a grain of salt.

post #205 of 487
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Originally Posted by biggbenn74 View Post

This is just my opinion:

As long as Yamaha didn't steal any patents from Dre, or take Dres headphones and put their name on it, Yamaha should be left alone. I suppose that Dre got too afraid that the Yamaha would out perform, and out sell his product, so the first reaction: lawsuit. I'm personally pulling for Yamaha on this one, and I hope they can come to a good agreement throughout the entire process.

Think what you want though. smily_headphones1.gif

I thought the same until a saw this.

That's clearly trading on the Beats dime.

post #206 of 487

Honestly this argument is pointless. Beats haven't even patented their design fwir

post #207 of 487

here's a nice though to. I'm not 100% of the validity of this statement. But apprently Monster Cable [the ppl who where behind Beats] had over 53% of all headphones Sales in the Us in 2012. Again not to sure how true that it but... based on what i see around me it makes sense.

 

Which is terribly because I remember when EVERYONE had Sony's or Koss's or Philips, Yahama ect... ect... so -.- I really do hope Monster Loses... they push there "trendy" products on an ignorant market... but I suppose if those consumers don't care for sound [which there r many ppl like that] no big deal.

 

Still I had a neat conversation with a young gal yesterday. She's says to me "why spend $300 on Beats when I can get a purse for that much, I don't even use headphones every day"... which impressed upon my how "stylish" Monster Cable products are [even though they sound pretty terribad] I guess for some that "300" purse is a pair of beats around your neck! 

 

So... I hope the lose but I doubt they will. 

post #208 of 487

Well for that crowd, who needs headphones when they can blast the tiny piercing speaker on their iphones?

post #209 of 487
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Originally Posted by EPICFAILXD View Post

Honestly this argument is pointless. Beats haven't even patented their design fwir

 

Beats has 11 design patents covering a number of headphone, ear bud, loudspeaker and transmitter box designs.

 

D632,668

D637,176

D637,998

D637,999

D641,736

D657,344

D657,345

D660,826

D672,715

D674,767

 

Again, these are design patents, not utility patents. They only cover "looks," not functionality.

 

se

post #210 of 487
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post

 

Which is terribly because I remember when EVERYONE had Sony's or Koss's or Philips, Yahama ect... ect... so -.- I really do hope Monster Loses... they push there "trendy" products on an ignorant market... but I suppose if those consumers don't care for sound [which there r many ppl like that] no big deal.

 

Monster already lost. Beats (a completely separate company) owns all of the intellectual property.

 

se

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