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post #136 of 489
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Originally Posted by cravenz View Post

Disclaimer: I never bothered with the Apple and Samsung law suits. 

 

I'm not sure they will have much on Yamaha if they are gunning for patent infringement (I've not been reading up on the case). 

 

What they should be going for is looking at designs law in intellectual property.

 

Also, if the issue of a patent challenge has come up, that's the usual counter by anyone who has been accused of infringement. It's more or less general protocol. If Beats get over the line, then the have a case. If they don't, then Yamaha are off the hook. But to prove infringement is a whole other hurdle altogether. You need to find some definitive proof that they have used Beat's technology, some connection that brings them together, to show that they didn't just build the whole thing themselves. 

 

The whole idea behind intellectual property is to protect the process of the idea, at least in patents. But the idea itself is not protected because they don't want to stop "competition" and "innovation" so to speak. 

 

One thing I will say though, if they go for designs, they will have to show that there are a gazillion different ways of making a headphone. And honestly, there are only so many ways you can make a headphone. Sure, Yamaha's ad campaign was targeted at Beats, but you see so many different companies do it, and this doesn't just apply in the audio industry. It applies globally. Alternatively, Yamaha could take the fall back option of a defence based on satire, to some extent. Not sure it is a defence in the country the suit is being brought up. 

 

My little few pence worth. 

 

Far as I'm aware, the lawsuit doesn't involve any utility patents. It's all about design patents and "trade dress."

 

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post #137 of 489

Lol, did a Heir Audio sponsor just diss apple?? lol watch out they're going to sue you for making small objects that put sound in your ears.

post #138 of 489

 

looks like a friendly relationship to me.

post #139 of 489

That'll work nicely.

post #140 of 489

Pathetic Yamaha, Pathetic...

post #141 of 489

& now!! ladies & gentlemen Beats new housewife limit edition 

 

 

 

          this lawsuit will become the funniest moment of the year!!

       Beats slimy & sticky  series biggrin.gif

post #142 of 489
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Originally Posted by streetdragon View Post

i was just about to say that


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just maybe not as obvious as yamaha's attempt thoughconfused_face.gif

 

You have a good point, but the fact is that a company like Yamaha is copying the crap looking beats and taking advantage of its hype, which is based more on status than the performance of the product, which in turn is why yamaha's name is respected in the audio industry. It's just pathetic and damages the company's reputation amongst some of us.

 

Disclaimer: I've never listened to any music with beats, but that's what it looks like based on may comments here, other sites and a little of prejudice (to be honest).
 


Edited by myears - 2/16/13 at 2:10pm
post #143 of 489
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Originally Posted by myears View Post

 

You have a good point, but the fact is that a company like Yamaha is copying the crap looking beats and taking advantage of its hype, which is based more on status than the performance of the product, which in turn is why yamaha's name is respected in the audio industry. It's just pathetic and damages the company's reputation amongst some of us.

 

Disclaimer: I've never listened to any music with beats, but that's what it looks like based on may comments here, other sites and a little of prejudice (to be honest).
 


The sad reality is that Beats will continue to own a lion's share of the premium headphone market and an overwhelming percentage of current and future Beats owners will have no idea that Yamaha even makes headphones or even heard of Shure.

post #144 of 489
Who cares? Those that remain ignorant and buy beats will continue to enjoy them whilst those that know better will seek other options and continue to enjoy those choices.

If people want to buy and support mediocrity, let them - it's their problem not ours.
post #145 of 489
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Originally Posted by dryvadeum View Post

Who cares? Those that remain ignorant and buy beats will continue to enjoy them whilst those that know better will seek other options and continue to enjoy those choices.

If people want to buy and support mediocrity, let them - it's their problem not ours.

 

touché !!

post #146 of 489
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Originally Posted by dryvadeum View Post

Who cares? Those that remain ignorant and buy beats will continue to enjoy them whilst those that know better will seek other options and continue to enjoy those choices.

If people want to buy and support mediocrity, let them - it's their problem not ours.

 

Exactly.

 

I still don't see the resemblance. Besides, many headphones resemble other headphones. Is Sennheiser going to sue Shure because the 1440/1840 look like the 600/650?

 

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Originally Posted by Craigster75 View Post


The sad reality is that Beats will continue to own a lion's share of the premium headphone market and an overwhelming percentage of current and future Beats owners will have no idea that Yamaha even makes headphones or even heard of Shure.

 

If they don't do their research and homework, they don't deserve good headphones anyway.

post #147 of 489

True that!

post #148 of 489
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Originally Posted by ToddTheMetalGod View Post

From the moment I saw these headphones I thought the design of these headphones was a complete rip off of Beats and seriously wondered why they would even consider this design. I don't even like the flashy, cheap design of Monster headphones in the first place. I respect Yamaha as an audio company, but targeting a consumer market in this way is pathetic rolleyes.gif. Then I saw this, and now I'm not sure what to think...

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Yamaha® makes better dynamic speakers for headsets than Monster Cable could hope to approach (albeit not so good as their domestic arch-rival Nakamichi® has across its own line).  I reckon that, provided they play their cards right, Yamaha Corporation can mount a gas-tight defence against Dr. Dre Beats, as a huge number of headsets across makes and models is similar in frame style.  Holding off the BBC (who, as I mentioned in Post #53, holds copyright on "Doctor Who") may be yet another matter.


Edited by bcschmerker4 - 2/16/13 at 8:20pm
post #149 of 489

Patenting a shape for a headphone is pretty bogus but with the US patent office, I'm sure they let someone patent water already.

post #150 of 489
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Originally Posted by bcschmerker4 View Post

Yamaha® makes better dynamic speakers for headsets than Monster Cable could hope to approach (albeit not so good as their domestic arch-rival Nakamichi® has across its own line).  I reckon that, provided they play their cards right, Yamaha Corporation can mount a gas-tight defence against Dr. Dre Beats, as a huge number of headsets across makes and models is similar in frame style.  Holding off the BBC (who, as I mentioned in Post #53, holds copyright on "Doctor Who") may be yet another matter.

Oh god yea... Bbc suing for dr.who usage... Thatd b something. Still the new dennons (d7100) look like beats too... Oh well... Still though... I think the Style is ugly. Anyways
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