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post #1 of 8
Thread Starter 

Hi all

 

Just joined to share my modding tale with you.

 

I usually use Sennheiser HD 598s, however wanted an extra / cheaper closed-back headphone so decided to try the HD 419 for comfort reasons (felt instead of pleather, over ear etc).

 

Anyway, Sennheiser sell the 419 for the non-audiophile bass crowd, as an alternative to Beats etc.

 

However, that interested me as Senns are often too weak on the bass to my ears. I'm no bass head and like lots of genres, but whatever music, bass is of course an important mixture and I even find the kick drum on my 598s lacking oomph.

 

So, I burned my 419s in for about 60 hours, and sat and had a listen.

 

They sounded slow, distorted, snare had no snap, highs and crashes sounded like they were under a blanket in another room.

 

The bass from 60 - 120 was strong, but not very smooth. Not much sub to speak of.

 

 

So, I read through this thread on here http://www.head-fi.org/t/441191/new-sennheiser-hd-448/90  for modding the 448.

 

Then, I got to work.

 

 

I followed the above link directions (419 identical inside) and removed covers, screws, and then, slid the drivers out.

 

THIS IS THE DIFFERENT BIT TO THE LINK.

 

If you remove the the tape from all three holes on the back of the drivers, it would be way to bassy, and reverberate around the closed-back driver casing. BUT, of course the more air a speaker can move, the more quickly it can react and therefore sound much better.

 

So, on the casing side, I cut an eliptical shape around 3" long by 2" wide from a fairly thin but soft towel.

 

I then used double-sided sticky stuff that was thick and foamy (the type from auto stores for sticking the badges on cars). I chopped 4 pieces for each headphone side, to stick around the thin towel. Then, I put the towel into the headphone casing, sticking it down inside the eliptical gap in the casing (where the driver sits when re-assembled).

 

I then removed the tape from the back of the driver, so all 3 holes are exposed and clear to breathe.

 

When re-assembled, the towel stops the reverberation, whilst the sticky foam car tape helps remove resonance. But still allowing the driver to breathe through all 3 holes.

 

Reassambled then listened through some test tunes....

 

 

HOLY SH*T!!!!

 

 

These things sound amazing!!  Better than my 598s, far more exciting.

 

They now have lush highs, massive bass without boom or resonance (really smooth - rock kick drum sounds live!), it has increased depth/spacial perception, MASSIVE improvement in detail (because they are reacting far faster), the snap on the snare is clear but not harsh (even with the most ridiculous bass at the same time), vocals are much clearer.

 

All wrapped in a really warm live sound. And without the Sennheiser weak bass of even their expensive models. Awesome!

 

Seriously, try it!

post #2 of 8

Nice mod. Does the towel have any area that is not taped down?

post #3 of 8
Thread Starter 

Yes, I cut the towel into an oval shape to fit.

 

I then used 4 pieces around the edges of the towel, so the centre is not stuck down and is off the surface.

post #4 of 8

pictures please

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Originally Posted by sofastreamer View Post

pictures please
Yes! Pictures!
post #6 of 8

bump for pictures

post #7 of 8

I too think that any mod other than leaving ALL 3 holes open, is a quality compromise. The thing with this mode is that it becomes too boomy and it vibrates (especially the 449) and reverberates. Since this can be dealt with, I think we have the PERFECT MOD for the 4xx series.

 

I still don't get the towel thing though, should it go on all the surface, even beneath the 3 holes? And "double-sided sticky stuff that was thick and foamy" what does this look like?

 

Seriously, PICTURES please!


Edited by pouskidis - 4/29/13 at 12:15pm
post #8 of 8

UPDATE:

Tried the mod, 3 holes open and a piece of soft vetex underneath. Sticking glue holds it in place.

The results:

 

1) My HD-449 sounds AMAZING! The sound is not as thin as it used to be, due to the tape covering the holes. Completelly removing this tape gives better breathing, and the bass keeps in track due to the soft covering it bounces into. Honestly, the sound quallity is much more improverd and the highs do not irritade now. Even though they vibrate a bit, this is THE PERFECT mod for the HD-449!

 

2) My HD-439 didn't do well with the towel mod. They came out hollow, with a sence of lacking bass, although all 3 holes where open! I had to remove the towel, and left them with open holes and nothing else tampered with. Now they are PERFECT! The bass is a tad deep, but the sound is balanced and the soundstage just as it should be. You have to accept more bass in these to fix their soundstage which is not that good by default. They sound just like the moded 449 with a tad more bass. The clarity is almost the same. I think this is the best mod for them. And they don't particularily vibrate! Perhaps the velour pads make them handle the bass better than the 449.

 

A critical observation: Indeed, the 3 holes HAVE to be open for these headphones to really shine! Covering up any -or all- of these holes is a really really NASTY thing to do to them!

I will NEVER cover ANY of those holes again! Just let them breathe!

 

Nice! :)


Edited by pouskidis - 5/5/13 at 9:01am
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