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Computer for USB, Rotel RDD-980 transport for coaxial.
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Computer for USB, Rotel RDD-980 transport for coaxial.

 

Wow. So no differences at all? I wonder why my laptop and X5 sound so different then!?

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Which is better? Matrix X-Sabre or Yulong Audio Sabre DA8 DSD 32bit/384KHz DAC?

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Wow. So no differences at all? I wonder why my laptop and X5 sound so different then!?

 

 

Every computer is different, and transports using SPDIF are not all created equally either.

 

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Which is better? Matrix X-Sabre or Yulong Audio Sabre DA8 DSD 32bit/384KHz DAC?

 

 

I discuss this a lot in my DA8 review. See my profile for the link. They are both quite good in their own ways. 

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Anyone have tried the Schiit Wyrd with the X-sabre? Anyone think it will make a difference?

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No, but I might get one when I order the Ragnarok when it's out.
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Anyone have tried the Schiit Wyrd with the X-sabre? Anyone think it will make a difference?

 

The X-Sabre doesn't use the USB 5v so I doubt it would make much of a difference.

 

If anything I think the best thing to do it to tape over the 5v contact on your USB cable so there is no power in the cable at all.

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Wyrd also reclocks the data stream, it's not just a power filter.
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Hey guys

I wonder how the X-Sabre compares to the NFB-7. The NFB does crush it on part count alone [3 R-cores, over 40.000uF, size and weight] but that's obviously not my deciding factor. The X-Sabre is slightly cheaper though.

SQ would be pretty similar [at least that's my guess] but I believe the X-Sabre is a bit warmer while the NFB-7 is comparatively brighter.

My current pairing is Compass 2 DAC - SA-31SE - HE-560.

SA-31 is staying as a competent amplifier and the Compass2 is likewise a very competent standalone DAC... I really like the pairing.

But I don't want anything brighter DAC wise, so I suspect the NFB-7 would be the more synergetic option [again, a guess].

The DAC is to stay for some time, and so is the SA31SE. It should be a potential end-game and future proof device [which they both are].

Thanks!

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Any tried to use Jriver MC19 to upsample PCM to DSD with the x-sabre? I made it work x64, but with x128 I only get distortion. Anyone know anything about this?

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Any tried to use Jriver MC19 to upsample PCM to DSD with the x-sabre? I made it work x64, but with x128 I only get distortion. Anyone know anything about this?

 

Sorry, haven't tried. I use MediaMonkey which doesn't yet support DSD (which is fine for me) and have never found upsampling preferable.

 

Having said that, I'd still be very interested in hearing others' thoughts on this.

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Got it to work! Had to use WASAPI instead of ASIO, don't know why but now it works!

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Got it to work! Had to use WASAPI instead of ASIO, don't know why but now it works!

 

How is the sound via upsampling?

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How is the sound via upsampling?


Quite frankly, I like it. It sounds somewhat smoother. Might be placebo (since I used a lot of time getting it right), but that's why we're in this hobby right? ;)

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How is the sound via upsampling?

 

I tried it out on occasion and found it made for a much smoother if less resolved sound. Personally I didn't like it as I felt it was not a true rendition of the recording and that it was not as good as listening to well recorded PCM or DSD files. It may make bad recordings sound a bit more listenable.

 

In reality what is happening is the conversion process is adding sympathetic distortion. See: http://archimago.blogspot.ca/2013/09/measurements-pcm-to-dsd-upsampling.html

 

Someone told me there was a better way to convert files with less distortion, but I can't remember what that was.

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