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Sorry.

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Will that Kef LS50 be enough fro 200sq.ft (20 sq.m) room? I would also consider KEF R300, its near to the price of LS50 but based on reviews have some more deeper sound and bass. 

 

Well seems I have a chance to listen that tomorrow


Edited by Gibalok - 11/15/13 at 12:00pm
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Sorry, have not heard the R300. Looks nice, but the LS50 seems truly special, so I don't know how they compare.
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Originally Posted by Gibalok View Post
 

Could you recmmend some mainstream fullsize (flor) speakers from, I guess, KEF, Dynaudio, Elac,  Dali, T+A. etc. This are what I can hear and try here in Moscow. Refered Salk WOW1 is a kind of exotic here. 

 

I agree that the issue is probably the speakers. Have you considered Bowers and Wilkins? If you want resolution they are the way to go and there are lots of Moscow dealers.

 

I can certainly hear the difference between the Matrix and other DACs, but I am listening through headphones and the resolution is probably enhanced by that.

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I agree that the issue is probably the speakers. Have you considered Bowers and Wilkins? If you want resolution they are the way to go and there are lots of Moscow dealers.

 

I can certainly hear the difference between the Matrix and other DACs, but I am listening through headphones and the resolution is probably enhanced by that.

Well, at first i will go tomorrow to some dealer with my X-Sabre and listen LS50 and R300. The only probelm i can encounter is a different AMP to my CA Azur 640a v2m but acording to Whatahifi discussions LS50 could play with CA. 

 

What about on comparing. The problem is that Im still waiting for Matrix quattro amp. I beleive that using my sharp AT AD1000 headphones i will be able to capture the difference with Dr.Dac2 DX.  

 

Anyway guys, thank you for your participation, I already found a buyer for my RS6 (for $500). Actually I bought CA 640av2 and RS6 at 650$. So Believe Im not loosing anything here. 

 

The only risk is that the mess in a HF and Midrange caused by AMP but not by RS6..oops ^)

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Gents, just another alternative, I have found that I can pickup used/or get good discount for MA Gold GS10 ($750) or GX100 ($1.3) or Gold Reference 10 ($1k) speakers. Is it worth to consider wiith the same price as LS50 and R300? 

 

Or based on my experience I should forget MA and go to KEF (at least as a primary target). Being honest Im impressed with how LS50 looks like and I have seen only superb reviews on that.


Edited by Gibalok - 11/15/13 at 3:28pm
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I've heard some of the Monitor Audio Gold and Platinum stuff over the years. And I've generally been impressed - especially with the platinums (which, to be fair, are more expensive). Not sure about those specific models though, or how they stack up against the LS50. Sorry. I'd think that since you have a sub, a really good pair of monitors would be better than a decent pair of tower speakers. So you are definitely on the right track. 

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I've heard some of the Monitor Audio Gold and Platinum stuff over the years. And I've generally been impressed - especially with the platinums (which, to be fair, are more expensive). Not sure about those specific models though, or how they stack up against the LS50. Sorry. I'd think that since you have a sub, a really good pair of monitors would be better than a decent pair of tower speakers. So you are definitely on the right track. 

Definetely... 

 

Yes I have MA Silver RWS12 picked up at $300, But needed to repair power supply at another 150$, but comparing to new RWX12 at $1.3 that is still a good purchase for me. 

 

I will keep you on my experience with the above discussion. But if some of you have opinion on GS/GX speakers comparing to KEF R300/LS50, I'd be glad to hear. 

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Picked up a pair of new KEF R300 at 1.2$. Great luck. Its incredible movement forward from MA Silver RS6.. Still need warming up but great straight out of the box.  


Edited by Gibalok - 11/16/13 at 12:46pm
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Picked up a pair of new KEF R300 at 1.2$. Great luck. Its incredible movement forward to MA Silver RS6.. Still need warming up but great straight out of the box.  

 

Excellent! Amps and DACs are fun to play with, and definitely make their own contributions to your sound.... but the speakers (or headphones) are by far the most critical factor. Glad you found something you like, and now maybe you'll hear more of what your system has to offer. 

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Excellent! Amps and DACs are fun to play with, and definitely make their own contributions to your sound.... but the speakers (or headphones) are by far the most critical factor. Glad you found something you like, and now maybe you'll hear more of what your system has to offer. 

 

Appreciate your help guys! I got sound which gives me a lot of clarity and soundstage. So now i even dont want to get into any analytical comparison of DACs :). But Hi-fi is a kind of things which strives me to spend money actively w/o stop :) 

 

Now Im gonna to change my SUB RWS12 (Rosewood) to Black piano (gold or silver one) suitable for KEF R300:)


Edited by Gibalok - 11/16/13 at 3:15pm
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A very nice review. It shows that the author is very knowledgeable in the area and perhaps spent many hours of personal time to bring lot information about this particular DAC and around. I was enjoying reading it. Thank you very much.

 

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~~Having said that, the situation reminds me of 192kHz USB support: I've had people specifically tell me how such-and-such DAC was perfect for them but they couldn't buy it because USB topped out at 24/96. I ask them if they have any 24/192 material in their library, and they reply "no, but someday I might".

When I read this part I almost fell down. It is exactly what happened since the time when review was published just after 8 months I do not have any other files than 24/ 192,000 in my library. I simply stopped listening anything below. And now I am really excited about spreading DXD. It is certainly next big step. I still can't understand why cell phone makers do not follow DAC makers. I can fit only 40 albums in 64Gb microSD card and it is currently a limit of all cell phones.  When can we expect 128Gb cards?

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This sounds like a perfect dac for the HD800. I am now using the BM DAC1 and it can be a bit to harsh on the top.
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This sounds like a perfect dac for the HD800. I am now using the BM DAC1 and it can be a bit to harsh on the top.

 

You might be right. It'd be interesting to hear some other people's opinions. You'd still want the right amp to pair with the HD800s as well of course.

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This sounds like a perfect dac for the HD800. I am now using the BM DAC1 and it can be a bit to harsh on the top.


It (i.e. Matrix X-Sabre) does very well with the HD800.  I'm running a Woo WA2 (Brimar EZ80/ Amperex PQ 6922/ TS 5998) combo with the HD800/ Charleston Cable Company audiophile cable.  I stream both Philip transport (CD-DA) and USB foobar 2000 audio and have been extremely impressed with the engaging audio quality, haven't noticed any top-end harshness after burn-in.

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