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post #9886 of 14016
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Originally Posted by Sorrodje View Post
 

 

TotalDAC D1 dual + Eddie Current Balancing Act . :D

I meant as a one piece combo thing, rather than separates, but thanks for that too :)

post #9887 of 14016
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Originally Posted by 62ohm View Post
 

 

What about the DaVinci DAC? :D

 

 

Wayyyyy too expensive. :D

post #9888 of 14016

The ones I've heard are the HDVD800 (need to try balanced), Naim DAC-V1 which I own and the McIntosh D100.  They are all  really good but will not get near a separate DAC/amp combo, even in the same price range.

The new McIntosh MHA-100 may be killer but at $5K, it would have to be.

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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post
 

I meant as a one piece combo thing, rather than separates, but thanks for that too :)

post #9889 of 14016

Hello,

 

Not sure if this will be out of topic, if yes, please let me know so i can take it down.  Would i be able to appreciate HD800 with the ifi products as per this thread?
http://www.head-fi.org/t/714057/ifi-product-set-to-drive-hd800

I mostly listen to vocals, instrumentals/guitars, occasionally rock - I appreciate good amount of bass but i cant say i am a bass head.


any opinion will be greatly appreciated. 

post #9890 of 14016
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Originally Posted by rptlead View Post
 

Hello,

 

Not sure if this will be out of topic, if yes, please let me know so i can take it down.  Would i be able to appreciate HD800 with the ifi products as per this thread?
http://www.head-fi.org/t/714057/ifi-product-set-to-drive-hd800

I mostly listen to vocals, instrumentals/guitars, occasionally rock - I appreciate good amount of bass but i cant say i am a bass head.


any opinion will be greatly appreciated. 

 

Contrary to popular belief I think the HD800 sounds fine even on modest equipment, it's not a hard headphone to drive and it has high sensitivity.

 

I've tried my HD800 with computer soundcards and it's definitely not bad sounding. In my mind a HD800 driven by $300 equipment still sound better than the vast majority of $300 headphones driven by high-end equipment.

 

The problem with the HD800's is that they are super-revealing and have a slight treble peak, so if you match them with a bright dac, a bright amp and have poor recordings they're going to sound absolutely awful.

 

Match them with neutral/warmer/darker/non-aggressive equipment and have good source material and you'll be fine even on low budget stuff.

 

The HD800's are not that hard to drive and personally I think the HD800's is one of the few headphones where it's more important to pick a really good DAC than a good amp.

post #9891 of 14016
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Originally Posted by TwoEars View Post
 

 

Contrary to popular belief I think the HD800 sounds fine even on modest equipment, it's not a hard headphone to drive and it has high sensitivity.

 

+1

post #9892 of 14016

I tried plugging the HD800 straight into FiiO X3. While the volume may be loud enough for me even without high gain, to me it sounds unbelievably thin and lifeless. The lows were weak and highs were harsh. Interestingly, I didn't find the mids to be recessed, but that's about it. Soundstage do suffer as well..

post #9893 of 14016

They do sound 'fine' on lesser equipment. Just-nowhere near their potential. ;)

 

-Daniel

post #9894 of 14016

For me they show you how good your amp is rather than synergy. But impedance matching will always effect performance as well and this has to be taken into consideration - as they will no doubt sound thin and lifeless with a low powered low impedance amp that is designed more for IEM's and 32ohm can's. They maybe very sensitive but they require voltage to gain any weight to the sound, simply because of their resistance.

post #9895 of 14016

Hi everyone,

 

I'm still deliberating between the HD800 and TH900 but I thought I'm going to ask for amplifier recommendation here since there is still a good chance of me ending up with the Sennheiser flagship. So please bear with my musings.

 

I haven't had much experience with high-end solid-state amplifiers designed for headphones so my experience is limited to a couple few namely the HeadAmp GS-X 2, AURALiC Taurus MK2, Schiit Mjolnir and a balanced AMB Beta22. The last one is an open-source DIY but the builder is a professional and it's a "holds no barred" build, complete with a digital volume control.

 

Listening impressions are done with the HD800 and TH900 using Esoteric P-05/D-05 CD transport and D/A processor stack.

 

The Mjolnir is not in the same class as the other three so let's leave it out of the equation for now. :-)

 

The Taurus MK2 and GS-X surprisingly sound quite similar to these ears with only minute differences here and there: the AURALiC unit has a meatier bass with a slight bass bloom while the HeadAmp unit has an airier, slightly more open treble. They both still have that solid-state aura about them though, perhaps what we would call a slightly cold, clinical sheen over the sound.

 

Which now brings us to the Beta22.

 

The AMB unit is really, really interesting because it doesn't have that archetypal solid-state sound: it has a liquidity to its sound that one normally attributes to excellent tube amps. At the same time, its ability to resolve details in the recordings is the best among the amps that I have tested in this comparison although I would say that the GS-X 2 is not too far behind.

 

My only complaints is it runs extremely hot and aesthetically it's not as nice as the rest owing to its DIY nature. Sonically though, I think it's at least a step above.

 

So what do I do next? Ideally I would want to avoid DIY design because I can't be bothered with the hassle but I have to admit that the Beta22 is a very tempting proposition. I would want to explore other options first though. 

 

I'm aware that Schiit is releasing a new flagship amplifier. Do you folks think that it will have a comparable performance to the amplifiers that I've tested so far?

 

I'm all ears to suggestions. :-)

 

Last but not least, I would like to apologize for the lengthy post containing inane rambles of an old man.

 

Cheers,

Jeremiah

post #9896 of 14016

If you don't want to  look into DIY avenues then you're really left with trying out Eddie Current and Alex Cavalli's offerings. The Ragnarok seems promising, but I don't 

think anyone has spent any meaningful time with it. 

post #9897 of 14016
Zana Deux SE. My wishlist smily_headphones1.gif
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I just bought a pair used with serial number 10024 without the benefit of trying them first. Using my Unison Research CDP out to a Vali driving the 800, I must admit they sound rather pleasing. They may not be as full bodied as some darker cans but the sheer speed makes the bass impact punchy and satisfying. Even on trebly metal recordings, the cans are able to decongest the arrangements and make it sound good. Case in point - Pungent Stench's Been Caught Buttering album is sizzling with treble energy yet it does not sound piercing or painful through the 800 and best of all, I'm able to hear greater clarity in the recording where it used to sound like a mass of swarming buzz saw guitars with other cans. Waiting to try it with my Little Dot Mk IIi and see if there's improvement. This is definitely a very, very distinguished pair of headphones, period.
post #9899 of 14016

Can anyone recommend a good stand alone EQ? 

post #9900 of 14016
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Originally Posted by Trey36 View Post
 

Can anyone recommend a good stand alone EQ? 

Here is a useful link:

 

http://www.terrywest.nl/equalizers.html

 

I use the CS12M it is free and it works with JRiver and Foobar as a vst plugin. I don't use it often but I believe it is very good.

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