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For me they show you how good your amp is rather than synergy. But impedance matching will always effect performance as well and this has to be taken into consideration - as they will no doubt sound thin and lifeless with a low powered low impedance amp that is designed more for IEM's and 32ohm can's. They maybe very sensitive but they require voltage to gain any weight to the sound, simply because of their resistance.

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Hi everyone,

 

I'm still deliberating between the HD800 and TH900 but I thought I'm going to ask for amplifier recommendation here since there is still a good chance of me ending up with the Sennheiser flagship. So please bear with my musings.

 

I haven't had much experience with high-end solid-state amplifiers designed for headphones so my experience is limited to a couple few namely the HeadAmp GS-X 2, AURALiC Taurus MK2, Schiit Mjolnir and a balanced AMB Beta22. The last one is an open-source DIY but the builder is a professional and it's a "holds no barred" build, complete with a digital volume control.

 

Listening impressions are done with the HD800 and TH900 using Esoteric P-05/D-05 CD transport and D/A processor stack.

 

The Mjolnir is not in the same class as the other three so let's leave it out of the equation for now. :-)

 

The Taurus MK2 and GS-X surprisingly sound quite similar to these ears with only minute differences here and there: the AURALiC unit has a meatier bass with a slight bass bloom while the HeadAmp unit has an airier, slightly more open treble. They both still have that solid-state aura about them though, perhaps what we would call a slightly cold, clinical sheen over the sound.

 

Which now brings us to the Beta22.

 

The AMB unit is really, really interesting because it doesn't have that archetypal solid-state sound: it has a liquidity to its sound that one normally attributes to excellent tube amps. At the same time, its ability to resolve details in the recordings is the best among the amps that I have tested in this comparison although I would say that the GS-X 2 is not too far behind.

 

My only complaints is it runs extremely hot and aesthetically it's not as nice as the rest owing to its DIY nature. Sonically though, I think it's at least a step above.

 

So what do I do next? Ideally I would want to avoid DIY design because I can't be bothered with the hassle but I have to admit that the Beta22 is a very tempting proposition. I would want to explore other options first though. 

 

I'm aware that Schiit is releasing a new flagship amplifier. Do you folks think that it will have a comparable performance to the amplifiers that I've tested so far?

 

I'm all ears to suggestions. :-)

 

Last but not least, I would like to apologize for the lengthy post containing inane rambles of an old man.

 

Cheers,

Jeremiah

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If you don't want to  look into DIY avenues then you're really left with trying out Eddie Current and Alex Cavalli's offerings. The Ragnarok seems promising, but I don't 

think anyone has spent any meaningful time with it. 

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Zana Deux SE. My wishlist smily_headphones1.gif
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I just bought a pair used with serial number 10024 without the benefit of trying them first. Using my Unison Research CDP out to a Vali driving the 800, I must admit they sound rather pleasing. They may not be as full bodied as some darker cans but the sheer speed makes the bass impact punchy and satisfying. Even on trebly metal recordings, the cans are able to decongest the arrangements and make it sound good. Case in point - Pungent Stench's Been Caught Buttering album is sizzling with treble energy yet it does not sound piercing or painful through the 800 and best of all, I'm able to hear greater clarity in the recording where it used to sound like a mass of swarming buzz saw guitars with other cans. Waiting to try it with my Little Dot Mk IIi and see if there's improvement. This is definitely a very, very distinguished pair of headphones, period.
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Can anyone recommend a good stand alone EQ? 

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Originally Posted by Trey36 View Post
 

Can anyone recommend a good stand alone EQ? 

Here is a useful link:

 

http://www.terrywest.nl/equalizers.html

 

I use the CS12M it is free and it works with JRiver and Foobar as a vst plugin. I don't use it often but I believe it is very good.

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:( ... Does anyone here try the Ear Max Pro Silver Edition OTL amp with HD800 before? I'm really wanna know what is your opinion on this tiny tube amp...

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Originally Posted by paradoxper View Post
 

If you don't want to  look into DIY avenues then you're really left with trying out Eddie Current and Alex Cavalli's offerings. The Ragnarok seems promising, but I don't 

think anyone has spent any meaningful time with it. 

 

 

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Zana Deux SE. My wishlist smily_headphones1.gif

 

Hi guys, thank you for the advice but I would prioritize solid-state amps at the moment.

 

It seems that our option is limited though unless you want to look into really esoteric brands such as Bakoon.

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Originally Posted by JeremiahS View Post
 

 

 

 

Hi guys, thank you for the advice but I would prioritize solid-state amps at the moment.

 

It seems that our option is limited though unless you want to look into really esoteric brands such as Bakoon.

Pretty much. I'd say you can consider Dynahi (DIY) Ragnarok, ECP's line (if you can find one of his amps,) the Master 9 and maybe Liquid Gold.


Edited by paradoxper - 4/13/14 at 5:37am
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Thank you 


Edited by Trey36 - 4/15/14 at 2:28am
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Hi guys, thank you for the advice but I would prioritize solid-state amps at the moment.

It seems that our option is limited though unless you want to look into really esoteric brands such as Bakoon.

I think @roguegeek compiled a list of 6-8 SS amps for the HD800 between the price range of $1000-2000 a couple weeks back in this thread.
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Originally Posted by JeremiahS View Post

Hi everyone,

I'm still deliberating between the HD800 and TH900 but I thought I'm going to ask for amplifier recommendation here since there is still a good chance of me ending up with the Sennheiser flagship. So please bear with my musings.

I haven't had much experience with high-end solid-state amplifiers designed for headphones so my experience is limited to a couple few namely the HeadAmp GS-X 2, AURALiC Taurus MK2, Schiit Mjolnir and a balanced AMB Beta22. The last one is an open-source DIY but the builder is a professional and it's a "holds no barred" build, complete with a digital volume control.

Listening impressions are done with the HD800 and TH900 using Esoteric P-05/D-05 CD transport and D/A processor stack.

The Mjolnir is not in the same class as the other three so let's leave it out of the equation for now. :-)

The Taurus MK2 and GS-X surprisingly sound quite similar to these ears with only minute differences here and there: the AURALiC unit has a meatier bass with a slight bass bloom while the HeadAmp unit has an airier, slightly more open treble. They both still have that solid-state aura about them though, perhaps what we would call a slightly cold, clinical sheen over the sound.

Which now brings us to the Beta22.

The AMB unit is really, really interesting because it doesn't have that archetypal solid-state sound: it has a liquidity to its sound that one normally attributes to excellent tube amps. At the same time, its ability to resolve details in the recordings is the best among the amps that I have tested in this comparison although I would say that the GS-X 2 is not too far behind.

My only complaints is it runs extremely hot and aesthetically it's not as nice as the rest owing to its DIY nature. Sonically though, I think it's at least a step above.

So what do I do next? Ideally I would want to avoid DIY design because I can't be bothered with the hassle but I have to admit that the Beta22 is a very tempting proposition. I would want to explore other options first though. 

I'm aware that Schiit is releasing a new flagship amplifier. Do you folks think that it will have a comparable performance to the amplifiers that I've tested so far?

I'm all ears to suggestions. :-)

Last but not least, I would like to apologize for the lengthy post containing inane rambles of an old man.

Cheers,
Jeremiah

Not sure what the rest of your chain was. But I can guarantee in my system that the Taurus is not cold or clinical. Beyond my own experience I haft never seen a single user report or professional reviewer say this either
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Originally Posted by JeremiahS View Post
 

 

 

 

Hi guys, thank you for the advice but I would prioritize solid-state amps at the moment.

 

It seems that our option is limited though unless you want to look into really esoteric brands such as Bakoon.

I'm enjoying my newly-acquired Lehmann Linear SE at the moment, FWIW.

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Not sure what the rest of your chain was. But I can guarantee in my system that the Taurus is not cold or clinical. Beyond my own experience I haft never seen a single user report or professional reviewer say this either

I totally agree that the Taurus is neither cold or clinical. I think the Taurus is one of the top choices for the HD800. I always been into tube amps and currently own 2 but the Taurus has made me a complete convert. 

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