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post #9601 of 18736
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post
 


I don't think that what you are suggesting is a problem.  It's how you put forth your suggestion/evaluation of the HD800.  I believe that you are quite a knowledgeable guy when it comes to HPs and audio components but honestly, you do come across as arrogant and "know it all".  This is quite apparent, IMO, in your reviews and posts(yes, I've read many of them :D).  I absolutely don't mind and filter out what I perceive as positive and useful from your posting. 

Don't get me wrong! I am not saying you should be PC in anyway.  We are all entitled to what and how we wanna say in an open forum.  I am just giving you my honest cyberspace impression of you as a person and hope to clarify some of the hostility directed at you.

 

Peace...

 

LOL. Let me rewrite my original post:

 

For those who may find the HD800s illuminating nature distracting with the most poor of recordings, the Anaxilus modification is one consideration of many. While we have typically resorted to cables, tube amps - sometimes going to the extent of selecting specific tubes to match the HD800 characteristics, none of these approaches requires any sort of handiwork on part of the listener other than plugging things in. This modification is more for those who are so inclined to visit the local crafts store and use a pair to scissors to painstakingly cut out a pattern. Because of the near perfection of the HD800, it would perfectly understandable if one wanted to outright dismiss this modification, or even think that any would be necessary other than appropriate matching of upstream gear, use of appropriate cables, and careful selection of the most pristine recordings. The fact that there are several real-world implementations of the modification with varying results, some with more deleterious effects than others, should be reason enough not to attempt it.

 

This Anaxilus modification will to some extent make poor recordings more palatable on the HD800. There are some inconveniences though. Some may find that the slight dimming effect of the modification reduces the exuberance and liveliness of the HD800. Some who have tried the "rug liner" variation of modification have remarked that it reduces the width of the stage and the reverberous effect of the stock HD800, but with a possible upside of more a determinate or unequivocal placement of instruments on the stage. In regards to these differences in tonal balance and tradeoffs in headstage, we have to ask ourselves which is right? This we cannot answer and it is up to the listener to decide.

 

Now let's compare to the first three substantive posts I made.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/650510/the-new-hd800-appreciation-thread/9480#post_10392768

http://www.head-fi.org/t/650510/the-new-hd800-appreciation-thread/9510#post_10394910

http://www.head-fi.org/t/650510/the-new-hd800-appreciation-thread/9510#post_10394959

 

Yeah right. **** me. I just can't be JA of Stereophile. I'm not British. And I was even very careful to dance around and not call the HD800 a fricking face-tweeter.


Edited by purrin - 3/27/14 at 11:22am
post #9602 of 18736

I recently ran the hd800 off a Jeff Korneff 45 tube integrated which is a 2watt/channel speaker amp just for kicks by  i putting a 8ohm resistor accross the speaker taps.

The sound was pretty good but the problem is not practical to use this way long term.  The amp only has one set of speaker outputs and toggling back and forth between the headphones and speakers and taking the resistors on and off is a hassle.

 

yea I'm still searching for a solid state integrated to replace my unit that died last month.  Would like to kill a 2 birds with one stone somethign like a Mcinstosh, Luxman or Accuphase long term would be cool.  Schiit Ragnrok Im not hearing too much about esp. with hd800 but anyone have any experience with something along those lines like a Audio GD Precision 1/2

post #9603 of 18736
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Originally Posted by Failed Engineer View Post
 

I listen to a lot of pop, soul, R&B, and hip-hop on my HD800s and I like it better than most all other headphones I've owned or heard (that includes all the flagships except for the HE-6).  And I listen to it with a stock cable and unmodded!


Maybe your Metrum Hex pairs well w your HD800s

post #9604 of 18736
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Originally Posted by purrin View Post
 

 

LOL. Let me rewrite my original post:

 

For those who may find the HD800s illuminating nature distracting with the most poor of recordings, the Anaxilus modification is one consideration of many. While we have typically resorted to cables, tube amps - sometimes going to the extent of selecting specific tubes to match the HD800 characteristics, none of these approaches requires any sort of handiwork on part of the listener other than plugging things in. This modification is more for those who are so inclined to visit the local crafts store and use a pair to scissors to painstakingly cut out a pattern. Because of the near perfection of the HD800, it would perfectly understandable if one wanted to outright dismiss this modification, or even think that any would be necessary other than appropriate matching of upstream gear, use of appropriate cables, and careful selection of the most pristine recordings. The fact that there are several real-world implementations of the modification with varying results, some with more deleterious effects than others, should be reason enough not to attempt it.

 

This Anaxilus modification will to some extent make poor recordings more palatable on the HD800. There are some inconveniences though. Some may find that the slight dimming effect of the modification reduces the exuberance and liveliness of the HD800. Some who have tried the "rug liner" variation of modification have remarked that it reduces the width of the stage and the reverberous effect of the stock HD800, but with a possible upside of more a determinate or unequivocal placement of instruments on the stage. In regards to these differences in tonal balance and tradeoffs in headstage, we have to ask ourselves which is right? This we cannot answer and it is up to the listener to decide.

 

Now let's compare to the first three substantive posts I made.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/650510/the-new-hd800-appreciation-thread/9480#post_10392768

http://www.head-fi.org/t/650510/the-new-hd800-appreciation-thread/9510#post_10394910

http://www.head-fi.org/t/650510/the-new-hd800-appreciation-thread/9510#post_10394959

 

Yeah right. **** me. I just can't be JA of Stereophile. I'm not British. And I was even very careful to dance around and not call the HD800 a fricking face-tweeter.

:D Your honor, I rest my case and concede that HD800 is indeed a face-tweeter...

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Bahaha 'fricking face-tweeter' cracked me up hard. biggrin.gif
post #9606 of 18736
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Originally Posted by Failed Engineer View Post
 

I listen to a lot of pop, soul, R&B, and hip-hop on my HD800s and I like it better than most all other headphones I've owned or heard (that includes all the flagships except for the HE-6).  And I listen to it with a stock cable and unmodded!

 

Fo Sho....:biggrin: 

post #9607 of 18736
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post
 

:D Your honor, I rest my case and concede that HD800 is indeed a face-tweeter...

 

 

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Originally Posted by Kendoji View Post

Bahaha 'fricking face-tweeter' cracked me up hard. biggrin.gif

 

LOL, yeah never pull a quote out of context ;-))).

post #9608 of 18736
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Originally Posted by icebear View Post
 

 

 

 

LOL, yeah never pull a quote out of context ;-))).


This thread is getting heavy.  That was my attempt to lighten it up.  Epic fail?  :p

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To the contrary, the thread just woke up and got interesting in my estimation.  I'll take animated, science-based (or at least related), substantive discussion over dreamy impressions and redundant generalizations any day of the week.

post #9610 of 18736
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Originally Posted by maconhel View Post
 

the HD800 is good with electronic?

 

In fact... it's my favorite headphone for electronic music. Especially with a little bit of EQ.

 

If you have electronic music with a lot of detail, ambience and soundstage they are amazing.

 

Depeche mode, The XX, Cafe del mare, Sasha and John digweed... anything like that and they will shine.

post #9611 of 18736
UERM are better than HD800 on electronic. A bit more bass quantity and the 3D soundstage is perfect for music that has no stage in real life. You float around in the music. I give up a little detail from HD800s but the soundstage more than makes up for it. For any music that originated in real life, though, I prefer HD800 over UERM.
post #9612 of 18736
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Originally Posted by skeptic View Post
 

To the contrary, the thread just woke up and got interesting in my estimation.  I'll take animated, science-based (or at least related), substantive discussion over dreamy impressions and redundant generalizations any day of the week.


Unfortunately, the mod and all these discussions are way old and have been repeated over and over.  We are just beating a dead horse while raising up unnecessary emotion.  That's how I see it.

post #9613 of 18736
I can add this many of the so called issues of the hd800 is really related to the music chain and not the headphones.
Both dacs and amps are to blame. If we had really good speakers and played something and it sounded horrible on our system. We would blame it on the music , DAC or amps. But with the hd800 it becomes just the headphones .

But that will just start another debate so let's not go there in this thread lol.

Al
post #9614 of 18736

I appreciate the HD800.

post #9615 of 18736
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post
 


Unfortunately, the mod and all these discussions are way old and have been repeated over and over.  We are just beating a dead horse while raising up unnecessary emotion.  That's how I see it.

 

By that logic, we should just shut the site down and put an end to all these silly redundant discussions about headphones.  Been there done that ;)

 

I see passion where you see unnecessary emotion.  There's nothing wrong with people stating their positions with conviction, especially if they can credibly back those positions up and reconcile them with reliable measurements or authorities, and provided we all steer clear of ad hominems.  You're still young to the thread.  Hang around for a few more years, and I imagine you will view the occasional lively debate as an interesting diversion rather than something that ruffles your feathers in a bad way.  

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