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post #9406 of 25124
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Originally Posted by Maxvla View Post


I may be missing some, but the ones that come to mind are:

Headamp GS-X $2800
Cavalli Liquid Gold $4000 (sale)
Bakoon HPA-21 $3000 (but not designed for HD800 drive)

DIY/Commision
Dynahi
β22 (though my personal opinion says this is mid-fi)
Krell KS5A clone
SuSy Dynalo

 

Other SS amps to consider - Not sure if they're Hi end or Mid Fi:

 

Luxman - sure does look good.

BHA-1 - slowly declining 

Questyle CMA800R - new and on the rise

HDVD800 / HDVD600 - lots of mixed reviews..

 

post #9407 of 25124
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Originally Posted by BournePerfect View Post
 

 

I never told you what your amp sounds like Frank...where did I say that again???

 

Yet...

 

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Also-if it takes thousands in tubes to make the WA5LE approach the ballpark of the ZDSE...well, lol. Speaking of which-I sold it to help fund the Leviathan. Not that confusing-and I very well may purchase it again some day. Also-now that you mention the Vali (one 'L' btw)-I would have a hard time picking between that and the WA5LE for the Senns ime. Guess I'm not a fan of 300Bs and the HD800 is what it probably comes down to.

 

 

 

 If you think the Zana was that good why did you sell it?  Since your happy with the Vali you may have now found your new reference amplifier. Do you still own the hd800 because I seen it on the FS board. I never used the term Pot Kettle but yes Daniel the tubes you used were not the best tubes in my opinion for the HD800.  My amplifier also drives speakers which was the main reason I decided I wanted it in the first place. It also drives the HE6 and AKG1000.I tried the Sophia and like I said earlier I would never ruse any TJ Full Music tubes as they would not be my choice for the sound I enjoy most. I

 

n my opinion they are not reference quality tubes and even the 1200.00 Royal princess was disappointment and others may like them but I did not.. EML and KR would be my two choices. 300B tubes are expensive and are not for everyone. The tubes I am using added another 1K to the WA5 but I am very satisfied with the outcome. Enjoy your new reference amplifier. I also know if i want i still can get the sound better with some different exotic 300B tubes if I choose to spend more.   I also remember you wanting to sell the 5Le like after a 2 hour listening session.   The amp you had also had to be sent in fro repair by the next owner so perhaps it was a problem with you amp which may have caused you to not like it. Usually it takes me about 200 hrs to just get a handle on the sound before I can really describe what I been hearing and many hours before I can make a summation of what a product can or cannot do. One thing also I did hear the balancing act and enjoyed them amplifier as well. But to get that to reference levels it had over 1K of upgraded tubes in the amplifier as well. Unfortunately anyone wanting to play with SET amplifiers using exotic tubes has to be dearly for the tubes and for many it is well worth the cost of admission. 

 

As for saying the WA5 is not the right amplifier for the HD800 you may want to say that you simply did not like it and did prefer the Zana which still bewilders me if it was the best amp you owned why do you not own it anymore. Like I said this is all subjective but telling everyone the WA5 is not good with the HD800 was you opinion and many others find the combination excellent.

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he just said that he sold it to fund the Levi. 

 

Ye guys should calm down and shake hands, call it a day. 

 

 

Bourne - did you actually end up ordering the levi? 

post #9409 of 25124
I didn't the W234 w/ the abbyss and lcd-x or hd800 until the 300bs were put in. Don't remember what tubes was in at first.
post #9410 of 25124
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Originally Posted by magiccabbage View Post

How good was the DNA Stratus with stock tubes or can you remember? 

 



It was very good but I wish it had tubes in it that complimented the hd800 more when I heard it.
I had Donald put the stock tubes in at the end of the meet because the ones that were in it didn't impress me and I wanted to hear it stock.
post #9411 of 25124

Well, one thing is for certain. It is very hard to compare amplifiers if you don't know what DAC you're using, what cables you're using, the state of the power in your home, the recording used and your preferences.

 

An amp by itself, any amp really, is nothing.

 

It's all about the synergy and what you want to accomplish.

post #9412 of 25124
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Originally Posted by TwoEars View Post
 

Well, one thing is for certain. It is very hard to compare amplifiers if you don't know what DAC you're using, what cables you're using, the state of the power in your home, the recording used and your preferences.

 

An amp by itself, any amp really, is nothing.

 

It's all about the synergy and what you want to accomplish.

power in your home? - maybe you could elaborate?

post #9413 of 25124
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Originally Posted by magiccabbage View Post
 

power in your home? - maybe you could elaborate?

 

How much your wife is nagging at you.

 

Preventing you from entering audio zen.

 

Or maybe I meant something else. :confused: 

post #9414 of 25124

My home is Washington State 120V/60 Hz. It seems to work fine.

post #9415 of 25124
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Originally Posted by TwoEars View Post
 

Well, one thing is for certain. It is very hard to compare amplifiers if you don't know what DAC you're using, what cables you're using, the state of the power in your home, the recording used and your preferences.

 

An amp by itself, any amp really, is nothing.

 

It's all about the synergy and what you want to accomplish.

Exactly. the entire system needs to work in unison. I use all Nordost cables and the Oppo BDP 105 as my main source. The ESS sabre DACs are some of my favorite for the  sound signature I like. All my power Cords are Blue Heaven Nordost as well as every cable in the system, Occasionally I swap out the cables for reviews. More important with many tube amplifier you also need to know what the synergy is with what tubes and proper drivers. You know this well because you use the DNA and have swapped tubes. Sometimes it one tube that can transform the amp and in this case it was many driver to arrive at what brought out the best in the WA5.  The rectifiers made a big difference as well. The great thing about using the HD800 it revals everything in your system and allows me to see exactly what a component is doing as well as wire changes.

 

There are better  DACs out there as well but the synergy with the system is really so good I have not been looking to make any majopr changes in my system. I added the GSX MK11 so I can have one solid state reference amp as well as the tube amplifier for review purposes.

post #9416 of 25124
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Originally Posted by magiccabbage View Post

he just said that he sold it to fund the Levi. 

Ye guys should calm down and shake hands, call it a day. 


Bourne - did you actually end up ordering the levi? 

Reading comprehension isn't everyone's strong point unfortunately. :/ The Levi isn't quite ready yet, but the Tangoes have been purchased and it's now in the final stages of development. Stay tuned.

-Daniel
post #9417 of 25124
It's way more than just synergy. Although
I shake me head sometimes how bad a really
Good amp may sound with the hd&00

But how can we all be of the same opinion
When the DAC s are mostly different
And then cables and music choice.
It's very complex and amazing how it works at all
And last is what we all expect how if should sound
No one here was there when recorded
Even people here who are musicians
Are not there to here. Recording of there
Own music. So it's just try to find common ground
What little there is. I say something is good
And someone else says no it's not.
Although there are oblivious posts that are just wrong
Example wa22 with the he6. It's not good
But the truth is it's not completely wrong either
For some that is the way they want the he6
To sound.
Al
post #9418 of 25124
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Originally Posted by BournePerfect View Post


Reading comprehension isn't everyone's strong point unfortunately. 

-Daniel

 

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post #9419 of 25124
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I look forward to hearing back. I think greed is getting one as well - how many are being built? I had heard that only 4 - is there truth to that? 

post #9420 of 25124
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Originally Posted by magiccabbage View Post
 

I look forward to hearing back. I think greed is getting one as well - how many are being built? I had heard that only 4 - is there truth to that? 

 

No need to look forward for impressions.  I can tell you now.  It's the best amp they've ever heard with the HD800's period.  To much hype for it not to be..

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