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post #9256 of 24367
@dleblanc343 , Curious what tube amp you own that you prefer to your CMA800R.?
post #9257 of 24367
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Originally Posted by Dabboo View Post

I personally don't see myself moving to a high end amp or DAC. I prefer solid state amps as I dislike the idea of changing the sound with tubes. I don't understand the point of a high end DAC as all it does is urn 1s and 0s into a signal. 

I'm definitely looking into the M-Stage HPA-2 or possibly the O2+ODAC from JDS Labs.
A midrange option could be the Questyle Q192 dac/amp combo at $650. Note that I have never tried this amp, but knowing now how much I like the CMA800R, I think I would like the Q192 as well. It uses the trickle down technology of its big brother, the CMA800R, including the current mode amplification. I've heard from a couple people who have tried both to note the similarities. It does seem like there's a void between the $250 m-stage and high end amps starting in the mid $1000s. Perhaps this fills that gap?
post #9258 of 24367
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Originally Posted by eantala View Post

@dleblanc343 , Curious what tube amp you own that you prefer to your CMA800R.?


It's a McIntosh MC225.. but mostly just on the outside lol. It's been modified a lot, modernized to be more neutral, less noisy and basically just measure tremendously better than stock. It's the most enjoyable pairing with HD800 for me so far, having a great balance of musicality and technical aptitude. The highs are rolled off compared to most high end SS headphone amps on the market today though, but it's what I find makes it all the more enjoyable for the HD800's.

post #9259 of 24367
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With preproman, there is the first negative comment around the Questyle with the HD800. It's a very sad moment for me mad.gifmad.gifmad.gif

I didn't give it a negative comment at all.  I just like the GS-X mk2 better..

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Was the HD800 connected to the HeadAmp Gs-x in balanced mode?

Of course - why would it not?

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Edited by preproman - 3/17/14 at 9:51am
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How does it feel to be me hahahaha

Just kidding I am sure it is what you hear though

Al
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Originally Posted by dleblanc343 View Post
 

Well here are my initial imressions after ~30 hours of burn-in with the CMA800R. It's the best SS amp I've heard with the HD800's; the most effortless and transparent yet. But I'm kind of disappointed :o. I was expecting it to be absolutely incredible, but it's definitely not perfect for me. I think it's safe for me to say no SS amp will ever do it for me with my current inventory for the HD800; probably not even the GSX MKII.

 

Soo.....dleblanc343 says the CMA800R mantains the "brightness" sound of the HD800, and he dislike it for this.

 

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Originally Posted by preproman View Post
 

If your talking about this amp:  http://www.amazon.com/Questyle-CMA800R-Current-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B00GM7F8E8  I got an od chance to hear it a week or so ago.  On a pure humble as I never really knew anything about the amp.  

 

In short.  It rocks with the HE-500s / not so much with the HD800s IMO.  Although it did sound pretty good, It lacks the transparency and the full bottom end of the GS-X mk2.

 

Preproman says the CMA800R is too smooth with HD800, and he dislike it too for this...:cool:

 

WHERE IS THE TRUE? (sorry for the insistence, but i was, and still now, seriously considering to buy the CMA800R for my HD800...and after numerous very strongly positive review of CMA800R/HD800, like project86 and each other, these lastly comments made me hesitate....)

 

I seriously want to say if the Questyle really is the best overall choice in the 2k$ budget for HD800, and if is so far to the GS-X MKII...

 

Sorry again....thank you in advance...

post #9264 of 24367
I say try it out. I love the questyle and decided I will be purchasing it, albeit it being bright at times with the HD800 (because of the hd800).

There definitely is a good amount of body, and nice slam and prat compared to amps like the mjolnir, phonitor and bha-1 as i mentioned.
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Originally Posted by dleblanc343 View Post
 


It's a McIntosh MC225.. but mostly just on the outside lol. It's been modified a lot, modernized to be more neutral, less noisy and basically just measure tremendously better than stock. It's the most enjoyable pairing with HD800 for me so far, having a great balance of musicality and technical aptitude. The highs are rolled off compared to most high end SS headphone amps on the market today though, but it's what I find makes it all the more enjoyable for the HD800's.

 

Like dleblanc343 I use a McIntosh MC225 but it is not modified. Only capacitors have been replaced. I also test the HD800 with Audio Research D70MKII, Audiomat Prelude Reference 20 and Threshold SA30s and there is little difference between them.

 

But they sound excellent with the HD800. They give it more weight, more bass slam, silky high, holographic soundstage, effortless and liquid sound like stat.


Edited by Hun7er - 3/17/14 at 1:07pm
post #9266 of 24367
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

Of course - why would it not?


It would be interesting to compare with the Questyle in unbalanced mode....or with two Questyle in mono full balance mode...
post #9267 of 24367

Tell you what though, the HD800 will sound good via good valve or transistor powered amplifiers, BUT the big difference is balanced versus standard. So please for the love of all that's holy get a amp and cables for balanced operation otherwise you have not truly heard what your HD800s are capable of......no really.

post #9268 of 24367
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Originally Posted by Dadracer View Post

Tell you what though, the HD800 will sound good via good valve or transistor powered amplifiers, BUT the big difference is balanced versus standard. So please for the love of all that's holy get a amp and cables for balanced operation otherwise you have not truly heard what your HD800s are capable of......no really.

no.
post #9269 of 24367
Hello I have cables both ways and I will,report what I hear for what it's worth. I can say the only amp I do remember balanced making a big difference was the woo WA 22. It sounds fantastic in bal and not so in SE

And the owner of woo audio told me use it in balance mode .

Al
post #9270 of 24367

Ok fair enough, its up to you at the end of the day.......but you're wrong. 

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